recommend an alternative to kayanos

depadz

anyone recommend a pair of alternative runners for a kayanos user?

Got 16's recently and they are causing me some foot pain and am looking for an alternative.

Doing a marathion next month so running out of time to break em in..

rainbow kirby

Try eBay for a pair of 15's?

(I wear 15's, and didn't like the 16's as soon as I tried them on)

roversrunner

Asics 2140's, better shoes as they are less restrictive.
Kayanos and Adistar at the higher end of the price range tend to be over supportive.

rainbow kirby

roversrunner wrote: »

Kayanos and Adistar at the higher end of the price range tend to be over supportive.

Some people actually need that level of support...

roversrunner

rainbow kirby wrote: »

Some people actually need that level of support...

By all means, but the OP is already using them which may suggest that he/she has too much support.

surfjunky

Like you I was looking for Kayanos substitutes (which I use for a high mileage road runner), I found the Brooks adrenaline great, I tried a New Balance shoe too but have only worn it twice (can't remember the name of it - didn't suit me). As with all shoes its a very personal thing, I find I need a bit of extra support when training and the adrenaline work for me. Won't be going back to Kayanos. Now I understand what people say when they talk about the Kayano being a heavy shoe, giving you very little feedback from your running surface - which is a bad thing in my book.

depadz

thanks..

not sure i absolutely need the support. Did get gait analysis done some years ago and have worn kayanos since with no problems until recent 16's (getting pain in foot under the tongue of the runner).

Might try the 2140s. I did use saucony hurricanes once without any probs.

Would rather not get 15s as they won't be available next time..

asimonov

+1 on the Brooks Adrenalines, i switched from kayano's to these last year. If you are unsure you need support I'd recommend getting gait analysis done again, because if you are neutral you'll be able to wear lighter shoes that cost less. win win.

gombeen99

depadz wrote: »

Might try the 2140s.

FYI - Asics have now discontinued this model and introduced the 2150 - not much change apparently apart from the fact that there won't be any bargains to be had until the new model novelty value wears off - 115 seems to be the retail price everywhere, whereas you'd always find the 2140s on sale somewhere, reduced from 110-80. Grr. Many shops still have old stock 2140s available, but none in my size (a fairly common 10-10.5), with no more coming in.

buck65

I've worn Asics 2130s and Kayanos in the past. Got a gait analysis and Brooks Adrenaline or Saucony Pro Grid were recommended as well as the 2140s. I went for the Sauconys for the novelty factor and I must say they are supremely comfy and responsive.
There was a little blistering but that settled after a couple of weeks.

depadz

just came across a post on another forum saying that lacing could potentially solve problem, and suggesting this:

http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/straightbarlacing.htm

anyone familiar with lacing styles having this kind of impact on the fit?

nerraw1111

I was shown a lacing style from staff at Amphibian.

Basically, you leave the last hole empty on the runner.

You then take the left lace and insert it in the last hole on the left, pulling it half way through, leaving a loop on the outside of the runner

Repeat the same on the right side of the shoe.

You then insert each lace into the opposite loop. Pull tight and it gives you that bit extra support.

nerraw1111

http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-238-267--12334-0,00.html

Helpful videos here of how to tie shoes in a variety of techniques. Includes the one I mentioned which is last video

pre

gombeen99 wrote: »

FYI - Asics have now discontinued this model and introduced the 2150 - not much change apparently apart from the fact that there won't be any bargains to be had until the new model novelty value wears off - 115 seems to be the retail price everywhere, whereas you'd always find the 2140s on sale somewhere, reduced from 110-80. Grr. Many shops still have old stock 2140s available, but none in my size (a fairly common 10-10.5), with no more coming in.

2150's are cheapier on sub4.com i think they are under 90 euro only problem is they only have size 11 at the moment but they are getting more in stock. great online store

depadz

update: re laced these as per above link and all fine now. Did 20 miles yesterday and no foot pain.

The tongue on the 16's is slightly different to previous versions so never had to lace like this in the past.

jlang

Anyone know where's cheap for Brooks Adrenalines these days? (8s, 9s 10s, whatever). I've just retired a pair at nearly 600 miles (I've had a few months of irregular running so I didn't realise the miles were clocking up that much till near the end) and should replace them. I've another pair at 200 but prefer to have two on the go at a time.

Moycullen1

While doing the Hamburg Marathon last April I went to a stand at the expo where they did a gait analysis after which I tried a few shoes and then the next day I went to a serious running shop in the centre of Hamburg. I was trying to move away from kayanos because I am fed up with Asics and their lack of interest in addressing the poor quality of the toe box area( I keep bursting through it after three or four hundred miles). Anyway the two shoes I found after trying several brands which I thought resembled the Kayano most were the Adidas Salvation and the Mizuno Nirvana. I was told that both of them fell into the same category as the Kayano in terms of support and structure but I would research this yourself. I saw Salvations in Elverys recently but I haven't a clue where you could try the Mizunos.

By the way I'm still in Kayanos and going through three or four pairs a year!!