KLM plane takes off from taxying strip at Schiphol

unkel

Pretty serious incident, I would have thought? Happened yesterday - a day of fairly heavy snowfall across the Netherlands.

Can't find any English link yet, but here's a Dutch one. It's only hitting the Dutch press in the past few hours.

Blue Punto

I have heard of landing on taxiways in the past but never a take off......

Ill have to wait for the english translation as this should be good

donkey balls

here i a link with a rough translation
http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/405387-klm-737-takes-off-taxiway-eham.html

unkel

donkey balls wrote: »

here i a link with a rough translation
http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/405387-klm-737-takes-off-taxiway-eham.html

Yep that's it. Interesting how a non-fatal (thus of limited international news worthiness) but very serious aviation news story develops from it happening - to the national press - to web forums visited by professionals all over the world - to international news maybe (still nothing there?)

donkey balls

unkel the red top rags have been known to visit pprne fishing for stories and putting the spin on it,these stories are never picked up by the media untill its released by the local air accident branch as you say of limited news worthy

unkel

donkey balls wrote: »

unkel the red top rags have been known to visit pprne fishing for stories and putting the spin on it,these stories are never picked up by the media untill its released by the local air accident branch as you say of limited news worthy

Big news story in the Netherlands though, picked up by several major newspapers (none red tops). Interesting nonetheless how it doesn't make international headlines

Or maybe international journos are a bit slow picking up on local (non-fatal is key you and I agree) news

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SCHIPHOL - On Wednesday Schiphol is one of the KLM aircraft taken off from a taxiway parallel to the runway in place from the runway itself. That, the airport, Air Traffic Control Netherlands (LVNL) and the airline announced. The plane left without problem "but not according to the procedures," the three bodies Thursday.

It was a Boeing 737 of KLM that Zwanenburgbaan direction from the north had to take off. Instead, the commander on the taxiway and gas rose from there to the device. What exactly went wrong, is not clear. The mistake was made at the beginning of the evening after sunset.

The incident was notified to the Safety Board who is now an investigation has begun into what a spokesman a "Runway Incursion 'calls. "This is a serious incident," said a spokesman for the council. "In itself, it ended well but this should be investigated." Researchers from the board Thursday morning at the airport went to work. The results of the spokesman could not say anything.

Destination

A spokeswoman for Schiphol Thursday did not say what the plane was landing. Even when the unit airspace chose was not disclosed.

The narrowing of Dutch Traffic Kites (VNV) sees the snow on Wednesday as a possible culprit but do not further the cause of the error could have been. "That it may, it is clearly because it happened. But it is not the intention, "says Evert of Zwol president of the association. "It is in itself a large piece of asphalt. I do not know which colleagues have made this mistake. Perhaps the snow, a distraction, but that's speculation. "

Big accident

Or at Schiphol escaped a potentially serious accident, could not tell from Zwol. "At the start, we always if anything is on the track. That there was nothing to see, may have also appeared at the thought that they were good.

Poly

I do it all the time in Flight sim - no biggie

Original Steyr

From Flightglobal

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/02/12/338362/klm-737-takes-off-from-taxiway-at-amsterdam-schiphol.html

KLM 737 takes off from taxiway at Amsterdam Schiphol

Air Transport
DATE:12/02/10
SOURCE:Air Transport Intelligence news

KLM 737 takes off from taxiway at Amsterdam Schiphol
By David Kaminski-Morrow

Dutch investigators have opened an inquiry after a KLM Boeing 737-300 took off from a taxiway at Amsterdam Schiphol two days ago.

The aircraft, registered PH-BDP, was departing on a service to Warsaw when the incident occurred.

Flight KL1369 was supposed to use runway 36C but instead took off from taxiway B which runs parallel on the eastern side.

A spokeswoman for the Dutch Safety Board states that the incident is being classified as "serious" by the investigators.
The aircraft continue to Warsaw and the crew was interviewed on return, she adds.

KLM lists KL1369's scheduled departure time as 20:20 and the spokesman says the incident took place at 20:36.

Amsterdam Schiphol would have been in darkness at this time. Meteorological data from the airport shows good visibility and weather conditions at the time.

Run_to_da_hills

This is not the first serious runway incursion by KLM

pclancy

I'm no commercial pilot, nor did i see the conditions on the day or take into account any of the many factors that could have influenced this incident.

But....

Are taxiway lights not blue and runway edge lights white? I would have thought the lights height above ground would have kept them above snow. If not that's a pretty crap risk to have them hidden by snow.

Also every time you line your aircraft up on the runway aren't you going to see the numbers and distance markings in the landing/taxi lights?

EchoIndia

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

This is not the first serious runway incursion by KLM

Surely the problem here was that the aircraft did not enter the runway at all. The Tenerife accident, appalling though it was, also wasn't a runway incursion, as the aircraft was meant to be on the runway. Of course, it commenced takeoff without permission, with consequences that are well-known.

CaptainSkidmark

maybe that explains the high security there last night. machine guns and que's a mile long! ive never seen it like that there before

Armin_Tamzarian

I think Schipol uses three runways, L, C and R.
I'd hazard a guess that the captain thought he was on C.

Dacian

pclancy wrote: »

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Are taxiway lights not blue and runway edge lights white? I would have thought the lights height above ground would have kept them above snow. If not that's a pretty crap risk to have them hidden by snow.

I know AMS is a huge airport and it was dark and snowy,in low vis conditions taking a wrong turn is understandable but I'm thinking the colour of the lights should have been an indicator.