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  • 10-02-2010 5:29am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭


    Is chantix the drug for you?



    or would you be worried about a drug whose advert spent more than half the time warning you about sideaffects such as suicide?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Those side effects are so much worse than smoking actually!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Is chantix the drug for you?



    or would you be worried about a drug whose advert spent more than half the time warning you about sideaffects such as suicide?

    Well most drugs have these warnings in the leaflets you get with them. If anything this add is very truthful and transparent. It's not trying to hide the side effects in tiny print on a leaflet that is already saturated with information.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Well most drugs have these warnings in the leaflets you get with them. If anything this add is very truthful and transparent. It's not trying to hide the side effects in tiny print on a leaflet that is already saturated with information.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varenicline

    It's because of the sheer amount of people it has happened to that they are advertising it!

    Any chemical can technically mess with your head, but this one does it quite badly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 458 ✭✭fuelinjection


    fao smokers ..... only hang around with other smokers, and avoid the abuse you get from dull boring non-smokers

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭paconnors


    Well my dad took these to help him off the smokes, and he did'nt try to top himself.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varenicline

    It's because of the sheer amount of people it has happened to that they are advertising it!

    Any chemical can technically mess with your head, but this one does it quite badly.

    Ah, that's not good, well at least they are not trying to hide it and cover up. You know?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Ah, that's not good, well at least they are not trying to hide it and cover up. You know?

    that's not to say they wouldn't if they could get away with it!! It's the FDA that make them warn.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    that's not to say they wouldn't if they could get away with it!! It's the FDA that make them warn.

    Ah, ok that's good to know. I was under the impression that they done that themselves. Please excuse my ignorance :) I know nothing about american advertising, well it's annoying and very long, that's about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Some people have had changes in behavior, hostility, anxiety, panic, aggression, anger, mania, abnormal sensations, hallucinations, paranoia, confusion, agitation, depressed mood, suicidal thoughts or actions or changes in behavior, thinking, or mood that are not typical for you while using CHANTIX to help them quit smoking.

    Sounds like the typical side-effects of giving up smoking any other way tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,115 ✭✭✭Pdfile


    Sounds like the typical side-effects of giving up smoking any other way tbh.


    but when your giving up them effects last 1 week tops.


    Imho: don't start smoking in the first place. If my kids started, id kill them ( maybe not literally, just enough to get the point across ) their and then so i wouldn't watch em suffer like i am right now for example


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Pdfile wrote: »
    Imho: don't start smoking in the first place. If my kids started, id kill them ( maybe not literally, just enough to get the point across )

    Oh, so you'd only kill them a little bit?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Is chantix the drug for you?

    or would you be worried about a drug whose advert spent more than half the time warning you about sideaffects such as suicide?

    No
    Yes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭we'llallhavetea_old


    isn't chantix, a fail??!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,399 ✭✭✭Bonito


    Smokers rabble rabble wasting their life rabble rabble rabble waste of money rabble rabble smell horrible rabble rabble


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    Smokers. Give up the fags, take Chantix, it'll work and help you get away from this crutch*













    *Warning: Chantix has been known to cause sucicidal tendancies, depression, mental health issues, skin conditions..... On second thought, Fuck it! Stay on the fags, its safer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭John_Mc


    It's actually called Champix over here, and I'm on it now. Have been off the smokes 3 days now and no problems. My form is grand and no tendencies to top myself :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭funk-you


    Meh...If you aspire to be a quitter your whole life, you have a lot to be suicidal about.

    -Funk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    John_Mc wrote: »
    It's actually called Champix over here, and I'm on it now. Have been off the smokes 3 days now and no problems. My form is grand and no tendencies to top myself or myself!

    FYP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Pdfile wrote: »
    If my kids started, id kill them ( maybe not literally, just enough to get the point across ) their and then so i wouldn't watch em suffer like i am right now for example

    So maybe waterboard them?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,399 ✭✭✭Bonito


    *Googles waterboarding*

    I lol'd :D

    Peronally I think this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_water_torture method is good enough


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Tried them. followed instructions to the letter. all the way up to the full dose. expected lack of gra for ciggies never appeared. Never felt any different. no nausea, no vivid dreams or any of that. Nothin, nada, zip. May as well have been smarties for me anyway. I suppose it depends on individual brain chemistry too of course. It was an anti depressant originally wasnt it? People have diff reactions and results to them so I suppose it follows.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭El Siglo


    They don't really sell it in the ad, ya know the whole having suicidal thoughts and possible kidney problems. Yes, give up smoking but feel absolutely depressed, don't think that requires chantix!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭Asmodean


    The adverse side effects printed on pharmaceutical literature actually has nothing at all to do with the frequency of such reported effects. Even if two people out of thousands experience it they have to include it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    Its Champix people.

    I know several people who have been on it and it helped them quit or who are on it at the moment. I have yet to see them stroll up the mainstreet with an AK47.

    If you were to read the possible side effects on most prescription drugs, and even some OTC drugs, you would be surprised at some of them - even for very common medicines.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    SeaFields wrote: »
    I know several people who have been on it and it helped them quit or who are on it at the moment. I have yet to see them stroll up the mainstreet with an AK47.

    Yeah well my mate who lived up on Camden Street in Dublin was on it a few years back and look what happend to him:

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/1123/rifle.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,399 ✭✭✭Bonito


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Yeah well my mate who lived up on Camden Street in Dublin was on it a few years back and look what happend to him:

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/1123/rifle.html
    Ahhh the caught johnny? He hid it so well :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Tried them. followed instructions to the letter. all the way up to the full dose. expected lack of gra for ciggies never appeared. Never felt any different. no nausea, no vivid dreams or any of that. Nothin, nada, zip. May as well have been smarties for me anyway. I suppose it depends on individual brain chemistry too of course. It was an anti depressant originally wasnt it? People have diff reactions and results to them so I suppose it follows.
    Maybe you took them wrong. I crush them up and smoke them in a bong, about 5 tablets. It's a nice way to come down off all the crack.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭chakotha


    John_Mc wrote: »
    It's actually called Champix over here, and I'm on it now. Have been off the smokes 3 days now and no problems. My form is grand and no tendencies to top myself :)

    Been thinking about asking my doc about them. Prescription only. Is it expensive?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    chakotha wrote: »
    Been thinking about asking my doc about them. Prescription only. Is it expensive?

    Its €90 a month and you have to stay on it for three months. You can get it on the medical card too if you have one. Suppose if you don't have the card you have to factor in the cost of a doctors visit too (yeah, prescription only). Suppose in the long term its cheaper than the fags!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,861 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    These drugs work by re-routing nueral pathways!

    Yeah thats sounds like a good idea i'll have some of them :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    DEY DUK R SMOKES!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,811 ✭✭✭xoxyx


    I was on them and I thought they were great. I wanted to give up smoking, but I didn't want to, if ya know what I mean!
    I hear of a good few people feeling nausea, but that can be combated by taking them with food. I didn't get any of that, but I did get some major vivid dreams - nothing bad though. Within three days of quitting smoking, I was out on a night drinking wine without a bother - and normally it's always alcohol without smokes that gets me.
    I did a bit of research at the time I started taking them (just over a year) and it seems that the depression hits people who are prone to it anyway, so that might be one to watch. However, at the time, there was no definitive proof that the depression was caused by anything other than giving up smoking in the first place. I had no problems at all in that way.
    The only thing that didn't work for me with Champix is that I didn't do the full course. I missed a couple of days here and there and I felt fine so decided not to keep on with them. Sure enough, within a month, I was back smoking as usual. :mad:
    Am quitting again soon and really should go back on the Champix, but I really, really, really don't want to do it this time (this was meant to be my quitting week but I bottled it :(). Also, I'm broke until next payday and want to try hypnosis this time which costs about €250. But I swear, swear, swear, by the end of this month I will be a smoke free woman.
    Anyway, if you want any advice on Campix, PM me, but I would definitely recommend them. They're prescription only anyway so you can talk out any issues with your GP. Also, you take them for one to two weeks before you quit, which gives you a bit of closure.
    G'luck!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,811 ✭✭✭xoxyx


    Actually, funny thing I remember my doc telling me when I started taking Champix. They have an ingredient that comes from the same plant as cannabis. Some of the research into Champix came from the fact that some people can smoke joints with tobacco in them and yet not become addicted to nicotine!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭chakotha


    3 months! IF I can stay off them 3 months I should think that's enough of taking them. I think I'll give them a go. Thanks for the info folks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭Giselle


    Pdfile wrote: »
    but when your giving up them effects last 1 week tops.


    Imho: don't start smoking in the first place. If my kids started, id kill them ( maybe not literally, just enough to get the point across ) their and then so i wouldn't watch em suffer like i am right now for example

    If I had kids and they started smoking I'd kill them TO DEATH!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭gamblitis


    Ok I'd def not take these tabs.
    Regarless of everything the narrator said about side-effects and what not,
    the thing that scared me the most was her saying "the best thing I've done, well besides my husband, dogs and family"

    Like WTF?

    Husband- Fair enough, you married the guy, you're gonna have to do him once in a while.

    Dogs and family???? So this **** has given her a taste for beastiality and incest??
    These pills are messed up!

    Stuff it, I'm going for a smoke!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭m@cc@


    Is chantix the drug for you?



    or would you be worried about a drug whose advert spent more than half the time warning you about sideaffects such as suicide?


    Smokers are known for paying attention to health risks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    A little Off Topic but here in the US we get these prescription drug ads on tv all the time and its leglislated that they read the side effects.

    Believe me its bizzare. And its not for medications that you can buy over the counter but you have to go to a doctor and get a prescription. And yet they advertise on tv constantly.

    Ask the average yank what to do if they have an erection lasting mroe than 4 hours....

    (Thats one of the adverse side effects of viagra and its hit cult status here).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    Sure i've been on medication which created an absurd amount of strange side effects including suicidal thoughts for some. It worked though.:D


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