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Private UK Reg... What's it worth?

  • 09-02-2010 8:02pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭


    Hi, I have a private uk plate? 375 ETM.
    How would i go about selling it and what is it worth as it is of no use to me here... thanks


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭testicle


    Theanswers wrote: »
    Hi, I have a private uk plate? 375 ETM.
    How would i go about selling it and what is it worth as it is of no use to me here... thanks

    Have you registered the car it was on onto Irish plates? If so, I don't believe you own it anymore. DVLA do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭Theanswers


    No,
    She's still on UK plates....
    Dont have documents though.
    How do recommend going about selling it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 75 ✭✭legatti


    it wont be worth anything here, as private plate or not its still a U.K reg
    as far as the law is concerned.
    so its not worth anything in Ireland, but you could sell it on Ebay, or theres plently of private reg companies in the U.K that would buy it from you so long as you have all the relevant paper work.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,360 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Theanswers wrote: »
    No,
    She's still on UK plates....
    Dont have documents though.
    How do recommend going about selling it?

    you have to put it on retention and put the UK car back onto its original uk plates then you sell the private plate.

    iirc you have to be a uk resident tp put the plate on retentention, but i may be wrong.

    check out the DVLA website.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,953 ✭✭✭aujopimur


    As far as i remember the reg. must be on a car which has current tax & m.o.t.,if so try any of the dealers that advertise in motor mags..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    not worth a bean without documents and an MoT....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭Theanswers


    corktina wrote: »
    not worth a bean without documents and an MoT....

    Is there anyway i can apply for the documents?
    As i do own the car upon to which it was placed... and registered.
    Also the plate is still registered to the car and the owner has no interest in it.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    contact DVLA Swansea, ask for a duplicate V5C, theres a fee and I dont know what they will say if it isnt your name on the document, probably best to include proof of purchase or whatever.

    Then to transfer number , you'd need to take it over(or up north) and get it taxed and MoTd but book it in before you travel as they could have it off you if it isnt MoTd... once its all kosher, you can put the number on a retention cert and sell it.
    Probably a pre 1963 number like that could be quite valuable but check to make sure it IS transferable before you go to all this trouble. Some "age related" numbers have been allocated to vehicles which have had their numbers retained and are not transferable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,663 ✭✭✭stealthyspeeder


    I am in the same boat (I have recently purchased a car with a personal plate that I dont want). Althougth I will be keeping it on uk plates (im exempt from VRT)

    cost £105 to put it on retention for a year (which despite some of the above advice...) you do not need any other documents other than your vechile registration document which shows the registration number of the car, which is what you are selling (the actual plates have a very low intrinsic value)

    put it on retention, and sell it on e-bay, or to a reg company in England.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭Theanswers


    I am in the same boat (I have recently purchased a car with a personal plate that I dont want). Althougth I will be keeping it on uk plates (im exempt from VRT)

    cost £105 to put it on retention for a year (which despite some of the above advice...) you do not need any other documents other than your vechile registration document which shows the registration number of the car, which is what you are selling (the actual plates have a very low intrinsic value)

    put it on retention, and sell it on e-bay, or to a reg company in England.

    Does the car need to be MOT or Taxed or retention to work?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    A friend of mine bought a UK car with the reg R3ULT, which i thought might be worth a few quid, i emailed a couple of those reg valuation companies and the most i was offered was £400, the lowest was £200. It wasn't worth the effort to sell, so she just VRT'd it.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 2,957 Mod ✭✭✭✭macplaxton


    It doesn't even come up on Cartell.

    What's sort of car is it? If it's anything very old, it'll probably not be on the DVLA computer, even if you could claim it back, it'd be non-transferable and worth nowt.

    Found it. ;)

    The vehicle details for 375 ETM are:

    Date of Liability 01 01 1997
    Date of First Registration 04 05 1984
    Year of Manufacture 1984
    Cylinder Capacity (cc) 3528CC
    CO2 Emissions Not Available
    Fuel Type Petrol
    Export Marker Not Applicable
    Vehicle Status Unlicensed
    Vehicle Colour GREEN

    It's hasn't been taxed since nineteen canteen, due a bucket load of VRT if here and is a Rangie. That aside, you'll find the information you want from HERE

    So it's needs to be MOT'd, taxed and V5C (Registration Certificate). If they want to be a real pain in the hole, they'll want to see and inspect the vehicle too. It might not be as easy as dragging it up north as the DVA and DVLA only do things relating to their own patch to a certain extent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    First things first; try one of the UK sites to see if it's actually worth anything, or, at least enough to be bothered with........

    Then, assuming it is, this is what you'll need to do: get the private number put on to retention, but also, you'll need an age-related number for your car, so that you can VRT it, here.

    You need to do all this BEFORE you VRT it, or, importantly declare it out of the UK. DAMHIK.........my 968 had a private number when I bought it, and I did the stuff in the wrong order and lost the private no, and the £500 I'd been offered for it...........:( It's on the wall in the garage now, though....:rolleyes:

    Mine was: H1 3 LTR - "Hi 3 Litre".........sigh. 93 G xxxx just doesn't quite have the same ring to it......cannot fathom why Revenue don't allow personal reg's, just as a money earner, tbh........

    Mind you, when I went to collect the car from Hartech, they commented why I wanted to drive a car with That reg ???? Confused ??? When I asked what they meant, they said..........why do you want a car with.........Hitler on the reg ? !!!

    OMG - I completely missed that market for the reg !!

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭Theanswers


    I was offered £1400 for the plate.
    Still think i can get more...
    However i dont think the current vechicle will even pass an MOT.
    Being a range rover it rusted abit and has sitting up for the past number of years
    Also to be honest the engine is missing one major component. The distrubator are for the petrol to the spark plugs....
    Cant remember the name of it!

    Trying to decide is it worth the hassel of fixing up?? I would also have to tax it!!! ahhhh :(
    It's a shame to waste a good plate tho!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,091 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    I am in the same boat (I have recently purchased a car with a personal plate that I dont want). Althougth I will be keeping it on uk plates (im exempt from VRT)
    Please explain. Are you also exempt from registering the car here?

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,663 ✭✭✭stealthyspeeder


    esel wrote: »
    Please explain. Are you also exempt from registering the car here?

    Yes, VRT 2 leaflet explains all exemptions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭Rulmeq


    Yes, VRT 2 leaflet explains all exemptions.

    Do you get stopped much? Must get annoying if you do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭Theanswers


    No, no, no!!
    You got me wrong... The vechicle has not been imported and yes if i drove it I would! And giving the fact i live near the border i might get away with it but i'm not going too as it's only being used for parts...
    Why pay Vrt on such a car a car which isnt going to see the road in this country!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭Theanswers


    Rulmeq wrote: »
    Do you get stopped much? Must get annoying if you do.

    I wouldnt call it annoying!! People we all must unite against the goverment on the VRT!

    It's a tax that PREVENTS the free movements of goods within the EU! How can people agree with the tax, given the fact that it increases the prices of car in this country by so much!!! I will never agree with it.... totally unjust!
    now back too topic! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭Homer


    Just curious but why would a plate that to my eyes is not particularly unique fetch £1400? Is it because it's a classic plate?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Short answer: unless you think £1400 (€1609 at today's rate) is a small amount, or a pittance, it is absolutely worth getting.

    As said, you don't need to MOT anything - you can put the plate on retention. If you like, once that is done, you can throw a match, or take an angle grinder, to the RR.

    However, to put the plate on retention, you have to get some documentation in order:
    1. you will need a V5C with the vehicle, as-is, in your name, in the UK.
    2. Contact DVLA and put the private number on retention (at which point, you will get an age-related number, for your RR)
    3. Advertise, or sell, the retained reg, to a buyer/company
    4. Lodge cheque

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Homer wrote: »
    Just curious but why would a plate that to my eyes is not particularly unique fetch £1400? Is it because it's a classic plate?

    ...it's most often someone's initials..........but also that it's age-less. i.e. that you cannot see the age of the veh it's attached to. Saves you getting a new DB7 every year, dah-ling :)

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭Theanswers


    Just a thought...?

    What if we were to scrap/ write off the car?? Would you then not be able to put the plate on retention or similar?


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 2,957 Mod ✭✭✭✭macplaxton


    er, no


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    galwaytt wrote: »
    Short answer: unless you think £1400 (€1609 at today's rate) is a small amount, or a pittance, it is absolutely worth getting.

    As said, you don't need to MOT anything - you can put the plate on retention. If you like, once that is done, you can throw a match, or take an angle grinder, to the RR.

    However, to put the plate on retention, you have to get some documentation in order:
    1. you will need a V5C with the vehicle, as-is, in your name, in the UK.
    2. Contact DVLA and put the private number on retention (at which point, you will get an age-related number, for your RR)
    3. Advertise, or sell, the retained reg, to a buyer/company
    4. Lodge cheque
    taken from the DVLA site.

    "
    To retain the registration number, the vehicle must be:

    registered at the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA)
    available for inspection
    of a type that needs an MOT or heavy goods vehicle (HGV) test certificate
    currently taxed
    However, if the vehicle is not taxed, you can still apply to retain provided:

    there is no break between the date the tax disc runs out and the start of the SORN
    and the tax disc run out no more than 12 months before the date you apply"

    To get a tax disc the car needs to be MoTd.... if it isnt sorned and it isnt taxed , you cant reatain the number without first MoTing it and taxing it (and if it isnt sorned ,.you'll be getting a fine to pay as well as the back tax.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,091 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Yes, VRT 2 leaflet explains all exemptions.
    So, is this the exemption that applies to you? Pretty restrictive...
    A State resident who is employed by an employer established in another Member State may, on application to the Revenue Commissioners, be approved to use a Category A vehicle or a motor-cycle registered in another Member State (either owned or leased by the employer) for business/private use in the State. However, the vehicle must be used primarily in the other Member State. (Application forms for this temporary exemption are available from Vehicle Registration Offices)

    Not your ornery onager



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