The Great American Dream

lcrcboy

So I was sitting back thinking to myself does the so-called american dream actually exist, you know the sort where a person comes from nothing to having everything or is it all in the movies and the reality is nothing like this ever happens. what do you think??, does it happen every where else in the world but we just dont talk about as highly as the amercans do???
leave a comment on what you think give examples for or against

Mike 1972

lcrcboy wrote: »

where a person comes from nothing to having everything

It happens but not very often.

and it happens on the other direction too

Gunnerkid

ya it does check this out

by the way this is real and it would never happen here

Pherekydes

lcrcboy wrote: »

does it happen every where else in the world but we just dont talk about as highly as the amercans do???

No, it only happens in America.

OutlawPete

Oh yeah, it's real..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogSUcxdzakM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxP50WgGCVA

Gunnerkid

OutlawPete wrote: »

Oh yeah, it's real..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogSUcxdzakM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxP50WgGCVA

two of the biggest muppets :rolleyes:

OutlawPete

Gunnerkid wrote: »

two of the biggest muppets :rolleyes:

Seem like two sound young kids to me.

Enough muppets in this city strung out, moping around and doing f**k all with thier lives.

At least they took a chance at something and succeeded.

Good on them is what I say.

Xluna

No. It's a fallacious ideal used to keep capitalism going and the masses distracted.

Nevyn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=010jO4_Bs9k

dr gonzo

Vanilla Ice...in a Jedward video?

Thats a perfectly normal english sentence.

Agent Smith

Thaedydal wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=010jO4_Bs9k

God damm you, i really should listen to that soundtrack again

Gunnerkid

ah vanilla ice the white rapper who said he was from the hood and turned out to be a "stuck up white boy faking da funk" from the suburbs

rgt320q

“I unfortunately proved what I set out to prove... that the American Dream really is fucked." - Hunter S. Thompson

Lia_lia

Sure aren't Jedward loaded anyway.

The Pontiac

OP, you should read this.

Manic Moran

Sure it happens. Look at Arnie: An Austrian immigrant who arrived with nothing but the shirt on his back and a bottle of steroids.

I don't think I've done too badly either: Arrived in the US with all of $3000 in my pocket, no job, no friends, seem to be getting on rather well now.

NTM

ejmaztec

Manic Moran wrote: »

Sure it happens. Look at Arnie: An Austrian immigrant who arrived with nothing but the shirt on his back and a bottle of steroids.

I don't think I've done too badly either: Arrived in the US with all of $3000 in my pocket, no job, no friends, seem to be getting on rather well now.

NTM

So what's it like cruising the strip in Afghanistan?

mikom

lcrcboy wrote: »

The Great American Dream

...... for many is a nightmare.

minidazzler

I thought the American dream was basically to OWN a house, a stable job, and Family.

I never thought it was to become rich, just to live richer and happier?

OutlawPete

minidazzler wrote: »

I thought the American dream was basically to OWN a house, a stable job, and Family.

I never thought it was to become rich, just to live richer and happier?

The original American Dream was all that and a white picket fence too but it changed.

The famous Scarface poster was a reflection of just how materialistic the term came to be a symbol of.

Mike 1972

minidazzler wrote: »

I thought the American dream was basically to OWN a house, a stable job, and Family.

For many people that = "rich"

bonerm

no.

THE SIMPSONS
(Homer and Grandpa Abe visit their old house)

Both walk into the former living room, bruised and groaning.

         Abe: [points to old TV] There she is, the old Radiation King.
              You'd park yourself right there and watch for hours on
              end.
               [young Homer's shadow is burned into the floor and wall]
               [flashback to Homer watching Kennedy]
     Kennedy: If I may, Helen, I'd like to respond to that question with
              yet another flip remark.
               [reporters laugh, sigh]
      Homer (age10): Wow.  [walks into kitchen] Look at me, er, uh, Mom: I am,
              er, uh, President Kennedy.
Mrs. Simpson: Oh, Abe: maybe our Homer could grow up to be President
              some day.
         Abe: You, President?  This is the greatest country in the
              world.  We've got a whole system set up to prevent people
              like you from ever becoming president. 

applies across the board as far as I'm concerned.

Overheal

Homer Simpson wrote:

Kill my boss?!

......Dare I live out the American Dream...

.

kumate_champ07

I think it was invented by mastercard

Manic Moran

ejmaztec wrote: »

So what's it like cruising the strip in Afghanistan?

I'm not allowed work a year abroad?

I enjoy not having to work in the same office day after day. TAD is not all about money. (Though believe it or not, my house in Silicon Valley actually does have a white picket fence!)

NTM

Red Hand

Manic Moran wrote: »

I'm not allowed work a year abroad?

I enjoy not having to work in the same office day after day. TAD is not all about money. (Though believe it or not, my house in Silicon Valley actually does have a white picket fence!)

NTM

You obviously don't think its all a bit pointless? Not just the American Dream, but life in general of which the American Dream is but a part?

Manic Moran

You obviously don't think its all a bit pointless? Not just the American Dream, but life in general

In fairness, philosophers have been debating the meaning of life for centuries. From my perspective, life may or may not have a point to it, but even if it doesn't (And if it does, I've not figured it out yet so it may as well not), I see no reason not to enjoy it while it's going on.

NTM

OutlawPete

Manic Moran wrote: »

In fairness, philosophers have been debating the meaning of life for centuries. From my perspective, life may or may not have a point to it, but even if it doesn't (And if it does, I've not figured it out yet so it may as well not), I see no reason not to enjoy it while it's going on.

NTM

The Meaning Of Life presented by Gay Byrne has made interesting viewing of late.

http://www.rte.ie/player/#v=1065355

Particularity the Tommy Teirnan one and the Gabriel Byrne episodes.

DamoDLK

<Ollie> wrote: »

OP, you should read this.

your not Portuguese

Pygmalion

lcrcboy wrote: »

does it happen every where else in the world but we just dont talk about as highly as the amercans do???

I would say it's a hell of a lot more common over here than it is in America.
The amount of "poor" (relatively) people here who are in the best Universities in the country and stuff like that.

If you're good enough for the course you can get fairly good financial support, whereas in America being "good enough" isn't good enough so to speak, if you want to get good financial support you seem to need to prove you're amazing.

ejmaztec

Manic Moran wrote: »

I'm not allowed work a year abroad?


NTM

Well, I suppose you won't get fleeced by the tour-guides.:P

dave 27

the thing about america is that its globalisation is taking over the world, ie mc donalds and other american chains, tv in america is huge and is in every tv over the world, also the fact that they are so patriotic they claim that their country is the best..so with such an influence everywhere else would naturally look at it claiming it as a far superior place to anywhere else..if u get me..

gonnaplayrugby

the thing is usa is the greatest country in the world, i hate it but its fact