World T20 Qualifiers

Dasbo

How do people think Ireland will get on in the T20 qualifiers?

The batting appears to have been good in the quadrangular tournament but the bowling left a lot to be desired. Boyd Rankin is a huge loss for the team, he is a brilliant death bowler. Seems like they are very reliant on Johnston and Botha to perform with the ball.

I like the idea of having Stirling at the top with O'Brien, like they did against Sri Lanka A...the two of them score very quickly and get the innings off to a flyer. Would Porterfield make a good no. 3 though?

TrueDub

Dasbo wrote: »

How do people think Ireland will get on in the T20 qualifiers?

The batting appears to have been good in the quadrangular tournament but the bowling left a lot to be desired. Boyd Rankin is a huge loss for the team, he is a brilliant death bowler. Seems like they are very reliant on Johnston and Botha to perform with the ball.

I like the idea of having Stirling at the top with O'Brien, like they did against Sri Lanka A...the two of them score very quickly and get the innings off to a flyer. Would Porterfield make a good no. 3 though?

I'm concerned, to be honest. We're definitely an opening bowler short, especially without Rankin. To compensate, we've got Andre Botha back, and George Dockrell looks like he could, with time, fill Kyle McCallan's role, but our bowling is distinctly vunerable.

The batting is going well, although I'm not convinced by either of our recent opening partnerships. I think we should stick with Porterfield & NO'B for the moment, as I think Stirling does a good job at 3.

What we need to stop doing is losing wickets in pairs, particularly at the top of the order. Too often we're left with 2 new batsmen at the crease, with the consequent re-building costing us momentum.

We should qualify, but it's going to be more of a struggle than previously. Best of luck to all the guys in Dubai, we'll be following anxiously from here!

Dasbo

TrueDub wrote: »

What we need to stop doing is losing wickets in pairs, particularly at the top of the order. Too often we're left with 2 new batsmen at the crease, with the consequent re-building costing us momentum.

I agree...it has happened in every match. Hopefully that will start to disappear with more game time.

Stirling has done a great job at no. 3 alright...but he'd be our best at exploiting the fielding restrictions. He will no doubt bat at 3 though.

I think the team have definitely received awake up call. Losing to Afghanistan, while they are undoubtedly a great team, was unexpected. This on top of losing to Canada will hopefully spur them on to perform well in the qualifiers.

HonalD

A good win today, or at least a win is a win! Roll on Tuesday.

TrueDub

A bad loss today to Afghanistan. We let them get 139, through a combination of bad fielding and dropped catches, then lost wickets far too regularly leaving, TJ and John Mooney looking at too big a task at the end.

We seriously need one of the top order to follow through on this, too often we're leaving the lower order to get the bulk of the runs.

The only saving grace is that Scotland lost to the USA, meaning that beating the USA will allow us to retain second place in the group. We hope.

Dasbo

TrueDub wrote: »

A bad loss today to Afghanistan. We let them get 139, through a combination of bad fielding and dropped catches, then lost wickets far too regularly leaving, TJ and John Mooney looking at too big a task at the end.

We seriously need one of the top order to follow through on this, too often we're leaving the lower order to get the bulk of the runs.

The only saving grace is that Scotland lost to the USA, meaning that beating the USA will allow us to retain second place in the group. We hope.

It was a poor result, things need to change and change fast. With the USA beating Scotland, who on paper would've been Ireland's biggest threat heading into the tournament, nothing is a given in this group. Porterfield has got the starts bur needs to kick on and convert them into big scores.

barrera

We may not be able to afford another loss in the tournament. Obviously wins against Scotland and USA get us to Super Fours, but we will start that 2 points behind the Afghans. Best hope then is for the two teams coming out of the other group to have a defeat apiece, and then beat them both.

They really did seem to be architects of their own downfall today - still best of luck, that's arguably the toughest match over with.

Speak Now

Poor result alright, USA beating scotland was a shock also.
If ourselves and scotland win our next matches then the 3rd games will be straight knock out. One of us definelty wont make it this time round.
Even though it's only 20/20 it would be a big setback for us

Speak Now

barrera wrote: »

We may not be able to afford another loss in the tournament. Obviously wins against Scotland and USA get us to Super Fours, but we will start that 2 points behind the Afghans. Best hope then is for the two teams coming out of the other group to have a defeat apiece, and then beat them both.

They really did seem to be architects of their own downfall today - still best of luck, that's arguably the toughest match over with.

Well if Afghans lost to Scotland and USA we wouldn't be down 2 as as it would be USA that would get through meaning we'd carry forward the 2 points from beating them...all assumptions of course :pac:

HonalD

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

Well if Afghans lost to Scotland and USA we wouldn't be down 2 as as it would be USA that would get through meaning we'd carry forward the 2 points from beating them...all assumptions of course :pac:

Can't see that IMO, I've been a fan of the Afgan team since they beat Jersey (I think) in a qualifier many moons ago. We don't seem to have the ability/confidence to take on sub-continent teams and beat them (Bangl, Sri Lanka A, Afganastan etc.) but if we play to our potential then we should beat both USA and Scotland. If we don't then we don't deserve to progress which would be a great shame.

Even bigger to miss out on another Short trip to the west indies....damn this recession!!!!!

simonrooneyzaga

absolute demolition job here against the us today!

Ireland 202 off 20

USA currently 16-5 off 4!!!

KevIRL

simonrooneyzaga wrote: »

absolute demolition job here against the us today!

Ireland 202 off 20

USA currently 16-5 off 4!!!

76-6 now.

KevIRL

USA finish on 124-6. So a good win for Ireland. Hopefully get them right back on track

Speak Now

If Afganastan beat the scots we'd be almost sure of second barring a heavy defeat against the scots................due to the big win today right??

Speak Now

Afganastan beat the scots so going into final match

Afganastan 2 wins
ireland/usa 1 win
Scotland 0 wins

Can't see Afganastan not being motivated against the USA

Should qualify now and will need to beat both teams from the other group.
Looking like 2 from UAE/Kenya and Holland, idealy would hope the Afgans beat them also just to be sure

Speak Now

No shock as Afghanistan beat USA by 29 runs to top group.

Ireland currently playings scotland which barring a heavy defeat we qualify anyway. Yikes 65/4 off 9 overs :mad:

UAE have topped the other group so that's a game we absolutley must win tomorrow to get them on 1 defeat in Super 4's. (USA beat UAE in warm up game )
Looking like The Netherlands will beat kenya so they'll be the 4th team.
here's hoping Afghans can beat them as well

Qualifying in runner spot is probbaly better than winning it.

Much rather be grouped with Windies and England than S.A and India

Speak Now

Ireland scored 136-7.

Hard to work out the run rate but i think scotland will need to to hit 137 in 14 overs with possibly a ball or 2 more. So almost 10 an over which is in this game is not impossible i guess. A good start should put any nerves to bed :cool: hopefully a few early wickets will push run rate well into double figures :pac:

TrueDub

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

Ireland scored 136-7.

Hard to work out the run rate but i think scotland will need to to hit 137 in 14 overs with possibly a ball or 2 more. So almost 10 an over which is in this game is not impossible i guess. A good start should put any nerves to bed :cool: hopefully a few early wickets will push run rate well into double figures :pac:

14.5 overs - if we get to the 15th over, we're there

Great start - Scotland 6/2 off 5 balls!!

barrera

Scots 40/5 at end of 8th over.

Presuming nothing bizarre happens over the next little while, in Super 4s, our fate is not entirely in our own hands - we have to win against UAE and Netherlands. Puts us on 3 wins. If UAE beat Afghans, and Afghans beat Dutch, that's three teams on 3 wins, and we're down to NRR.

So we'll be shouting on Ireland and Afghanistan for next two days to keep things simple.

Scots 87-6 off 15 overs now.We're through to the Super 4's

Speak Now

Borders no.2 wrote: »

Scots 72-5 off 12 overs now.Coetzer seems to be single handedly keeping them in with a chance.

Well hexed

All over 37 run victory:)

Dasbo

Good win in the end. Some performance from Connell and Johnston with the ball again.

Match report here: http://munstercricket.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/ireland-through-to-super-fours-after-comprehensive-victory/

Cremated

So we have have to beat Holland and the UAE?, and that should be good enough for us to get through,

our NRR is higher than any of the other three teams by a good bit,

so UAE tomorrow, it's a big one ...

Speak Now

Cremated wrote: »

So we have have to beat Holland and the UAE?, and that should be good enough for us to get through,

our NRR is higher than any of the other three teams by a good bit,

so UAE tomorrow, it's a big one ...

No our NRR is inferior to UAE and Afghan :mad:
It's only teams in the super 4 that count now.

Cremated

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

No our NRR is inferior to UAE and Afghan :mad:
It's only teams in the super 4 that count now.

Sorry about that,

let's hope for two more good wins that will get us through...

barrera

Netherlands have beaten Afghanistan.

As it happens, we now are in control of our own destiny - two wins and we make it to the West Indies, without worrying about NRRs.

Speak Now

barrera wrote: »

Netherlands have beaten Afghanistan.

As it happens, we now are in control of our own destiny - two wins and we make it to the West Indies, without worrying about NRRs.

You're right that was a good result today after all.

If we can beat the UAE today then last 2 matches are like finals for all 4 teams.

NRR would still decide who tops the group though (or is it head to head ) and as i said earlier i'd rather come second and get England and Windies. More appealing than S.A and India IMO.

barrera

The top two teams play each other again in a final to determine who comes 1st and who comes 2nd, so NRR from the super 4s is discounted.

While 2nd place gives the handier group, you can't really see any team doing anything other than playing to win the final.

Speak Now

barrera wrote: »

The top two teams play each other again in a final to determine who comes 1st and who comes 2nd, so NRR from the super 4s is discounted.

While 2nd place gives the handier group, you can't really see any team doing anything other than playing to win the final.

You're right i assumed they only went by group standings as it's finished tomorrow. We're the second match tomorrow so if they do make the final it's straight out again so possibly a slight disadvantage.

It's not even for the handier group i want second, it's just England and Windies games in the 80's is when i first started following cricket and i think they'd be the glamour ties even though other sides are probably better currently.

D3PO

in reasonable shape agaisnt the UAE right now

55/4 off 7.1 replying to out 152 come on boys

63-4 ff 9 now.Getting Saqid Ali wicket looks like the key at this stage

D3PO

Borders no.2 wrote: »

63-4 ff 9 now.Getting Saqid Ali wicket looks like the key at this stage

TOTALLY AGREE. another wicket down but unfortunatly not Ali's

71/5 off 10.3

8.63 RR

D3PO

if we dont get Ali in the next over were gonna lose this I think

KevIRL

Abdul Rehman dropped. Arrrghhh

KevIRL

A good 14th over, no wicket but only 4 runs

UAE 99-5

D3PO

Dockrell made up a little for the drop with that over

RRR 9 an over now but UAE still favourites

Rehman is out.116-6 off 16.Its going to be tight.

Edit:Next ball Ali gone.116-7 off 16.1.

Lets hope we can finish it from here

D3PO

man did we need that wicket.

UAE still favourites especially with Ali there but this will add a bit of pressure to em

RR 9.25 OR 37 off 24 whichever you prefer.

come on boys

D3PO

BOOOM ALI GONE !!!

D3PO

2 new batsmen in 9.65 an over only 3 wickets left.

Ireland slight favs now

118-8 now off 16.4.rrr out to 10.5

KevIRL

skittling them now 117-8 after 17 overs

D3PO

This is ours to lose now.

Roll on Holland

119-9.Lets hope we can finish it out quickly.Could be vital with regards run rate.

EI111

where do ye watch these games?

D3PO

Borders no.2 wrote: »

119-9.Lets hope we can finish it out quickly.Could be vital with regards run rate.

NRR doesnt matter to us anymore. Last round of games the 2 winners take all. assuming we dont get washed out (pretty unlikely )

EI111

EI111 wrote: »

where do ye watch these games?

Nowhere unfortunately, following the commentary on cricketeurope4.net:D

Into the last over UAE need 23 for the win.

Edit: All over

Netherlands won't be easy but hopefully we can ensure qualification tomorrow.:)

D3PO

as it stands

Super Four

1. Ireland NRR + 0.225 2 pts
2. Afganistan NRR +0.031 2 pts
3. Holland NRR 0.000 2 pts
4. UAE NRR -0.226 2 pts

So its winners take all in the next round of games

Or an Irish washout puts us through aswell

TrueDub

D3PO wrote: »

Or an Irish washout puts us through as well

I salute your inventive thinking, but I fear this might be too much to ask for!