Dublin v Kerry NFL 1 Sunday February 7th

Spiritoftheseventies

Okay seeing its the league opener we will give this one its own thread. Gilroy has started with just five players that lost to the Kingdom last summer with the O'Carroll brothers forming two thirds of the full back line.
Lets hope its a lot closer then when the last time the two teams met

blackbelt

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

Okay seeing its the league opener we will give this one its own thread. Gilroy has started with just five players that lost to the Kingdom last summer with the O'Carroll brothers forming two thirds of the full back line.
Lets hope its a lot closer then when the last time the two teams met

I think Dublin have a good chance of wining this.This is going to be two totally different teams than in August going at it.We have a good full forward line but I do not like the look of our half forward line.David Henry is a forward for Raheny but works better in the backs for Dublin.

I want to see more of what McAulay can do.He has seemed uninterested in periods of games he played.Fennell should boss midfield if he can get the better of Scanlon.We look to have a very decent full back line on paper and I hope it works out.Good to see McManoman and Blaine Kelly get their game.

I'm heading down to Killarney tomorrow evening and Mullet and Popebenny should be down.Its going to be some craic whatever the result.

derra_121

Anyone know of any transport going down to Killarney a cheaper option private busses or anything... not the train 100€ return could fly to europe for cheaper than that bloody expensive trains

Thanks

radharc

Kerry don't seem too interested anyway, half the team in Miami for the Superbowl!

DARK-KNIGHT

radharc wrote: »

Kerry don't seem too interested anyway, half the team in Miami for the Superbowl!

i wouldnt be surprised if dublin win this its nearly a second kerry team! why is it that kerry players disappear like this? its a disgrace!

Mullet

derra_121 wrote: »

Anyone know of any transport going down to Killarney a cheaper option private busses or anything... not the train 100€ return could fly to europe for cheaper than that bloody expensive trains

Thanks

I am flying down Saturday back Sunday with Ryanair €70 but that was a few feeks ago .

yaaaboy

definetly a weakened kerry team - 17 of the players are gonna be missing and its marc sheas wedding on friday so the players may have other things on their minds.

From a gambling point of view dublin were almost 3/1 a few days ago and are now in to 11/8 so somebody's money fancies them to win too..

DDC1990

raycaulwell wrote: »

i wouldnt be surprised if dublin win this its nearly a second kerry team! why is it that kerry players disappear like this? its a disgrace!

What do you mean a disgrace? They were invited over to the superbowl as special guests. They are representing the Gaa (unofficially of course) at arguably the biggest sporting event in the world. They are All Ireland champions, I think they deserve 1 game off to enjoy themselves.


A disgrace indeed!

Tristram

DUBLIN (SF v Kerry): Stephen Cluxton; Ross O’Carroll, Rory O’Carroll, Philly McMahon; Paul Griffin (Capt), Cian O’Sullivan, James McCarthy; Eamon Fennell, Ross McConnell; Alan Hubbard Michael Darragh MacAuley, Paul Flynn; David Henry, Blaine Kelly, Kevin McManamon

Subs : Michael Savage, Paul Conlon, Conor McCormack, Paul Casey, Bryan Cullen, Denis Carrigan, Tiernan Diamond, James Brogan, Bernard Brogan, Dean Kelly, Kevin Bonner, Brendan McManamon

Spiritoftheseventies

1982 was the last time Dublin beat kerry in their own backpatch. This from Thursday's herald.

A MESSAGE to make wizened old Dubs shed tears of joy, and more cynical ones to ask who's responsible for the misprint. 'Kingdom Shocked By Jubilant Dubliners' proclaims the banner headline.

The only problem? This sepia- tinted offering is culled from the 1982 archives, the last time a Dublin football team had the temerity to ambush Gaelic football's perennial aristocrats in their own fiefdom.

Dublin managed just one point in the second half of that November collision, but Ciaran Duff's free into the wind was still sufficient to snaffle two precious National League Division One points.

What's seldom is wonderful, they say, and that's why a Dublin win against the odds in Killarney this Sunday would lift some of the gloom that has shrouded the capital's GAA skyline since the game-that-dare-not-speak-its-name last August.

Judging from the report that accompanied the above Irish Independent headline, few if anyone expected a Dublin team in transition to topple Mick O'Dwyer's all-star cast -- even one without the stricken Pat Spillane, flu victim John Egan and, before the first quarter was over, their injured midfield talisman Jack O'Shea.

Having travelled to Tralee on a downer, following successive defeats to Offaly and Down, Kevin Heffernan's emerging outfit departed in buoyant spirits having withstood a belated onslaught from the home side to win by 0-8 to 0-7.

Only two months earlier, Kerry had been famously 'robbed' of five in a row by Seamus Darby. And earlier that summer, the same Offaly team had demolished Dublin by 1-16 to 1-7 in the Leinster final. Having claimed six provincial titles on the trot up until 1979, the Dubs had now endured three fallow summers in the shadow of Eugene McGee's Faithful crusaders.

All things considered, then, to win in Kerry was no mean achievement.

"Looking back, it was the first big breakthrough for that team that went on to win the All-Ireland (the following September)," John O'Leary recalls, more than 27 years later. "It was a very young team. We had been hammered by Offaly in the 1982 Leinster final, and they went on to win the All-Ireland. If you look back on that game, that was the first time we got a bit of belief."

By that stage, O'Leary was no longer a senior novice having graduated from the 1979 All-Ireland winning minor team along with Duff, Barney Rock and Stephen Wade. All four had started that ill-fated '82 Leinster final, but against Kerry the following November they had been joined by other new recruits including Gerry Hargan at full-back, Willie Hughes on the '40' and a young Charlie Redmond in the corner.

O'Leary estimates that more than half that team had "nothing to lose having a crack at Kerry." And so it transpired: backed by the elements, they led by 0-7 to a solitary Mikey Sheehy free at the midpoint.

Kerry upped the ante on the restart, but the comeback was still a stop-start affair -- not helped by a number of squandered goal chances. For that, O'Leary must take much of the plaudits: the report refers to a brace of "breathtaking saves" in the last quarter, somehow deflecting an Eoin Liston effort over the bar and then smothering another shot from Mike O'Connor. Throw in another miss from John McElligott, put clean through by Sheehy, and Kerry's tale of wasteful woe was complete.

The game was also notable for a late incident involving the legendary Heffernan. Again, according to reports, the Dublin boss came onto the pitch to confront Kerry player Johnny Mulvihill who had collided with Redmond as the two contested a ball.

His intervention prompted a stern response from Kerry county board chairman Frank King, who told the Sunday Independent how Kerry supporters behind the Dublin officials and subs became incensed and began throwing pieces of clay.

Since that 1982 ambush, Dublin have suffered six defeats and claimed one draw (four years ago) on their league travels to the Kingdom. Their championship record against Kerry in the same period is similarly lopsided, reaching a nadir with that 17-point defeat in last year's All-Ireland quarter-final.

Still, Sky Blue diehards who were alarmed by last August's spectacular regression and worried by all the talk of drastic revamps and short-term recession will perhaps spy a morsel of hope in the omens of Tralee in 1982.

Then, a new-look Dublin were emboldened by victory in Kerry and went all the way to Sam. Not that O'Leary is expecting early miracles from Gilroy's changing guard. On one hand, the former keeper believes February may be the ideal time to tackle Kerry, as the winter cobwebs are dusted off and there is always the chance of catching Kerry "asleep".

On the flip side, O'Leary views any trip to Kerry as a "huge ask" and reckons Dublin could find the going initially tough this spring. A selector with Tom Carr when the county last reached a league final in 1999, he can't see a repeat this time because the top-flight rivals "just look too strong."

"He (Gilroy) has to blood new players and find a few nuggets," he suggests. "They need to get a couple of wins in the league. It doesn't matter who they come against. They don't want to go into the last three fixtures struggling for points."

O'Leary doesn't believe the events of last summer will necessarily affect the visitors' mindset this weekend. "It will more likely hit the Dublin minds if they meet in the championship later. If Dublin beat them by five points on Sunday and they meet again next August, they will be talking about last year's championship -- not a league match in February," he concludes.

joekeville

100 yoyos for the train :eek:

homerjay2005

joekeville wrote: »

100 yoyos for the train :eek:

eh???

you not book online? i just checked, book online for about 46 euro return day trip also, no way its that much from dublin to killarney. you could fly up and down in the one day for 120 return..

meanwhile, kerry team is.....

The Kerry Team to play Dublin in The Allianz National Football League in Killarney on Sunday 7th February at 2.30pm is as follows:
(1)Ger Reidy, Castleisland Desmonds (2)Padraig Reidy Scartaglin (3) Tommy Griffin (Dingle) (4) Adrian O'Connell ( St Michael's Foilmore ) (5) Maurice Corridan (Finuge )(6) Aidan O'Mahony (Rathmore) (7) Killian Young (Renard)- Captain (8)Seamus Scanlon (Currow)(9) Micheál Quirke (Kerins O'Rahillys) (10)Paul Galvin (Finuge) (11) Declan O'Sullivan (Piarsaigh na Dromada) (12) Donnacha Walsh (Cromane) (13) Barry John Walsh (Kerins O'Rahillys) (14) Kieran Donaghy (Austin Stacks) (15) Paul O'Connor (Kenmare)
Fir Ionad
(16) Brendan Kealy (Kilcummin) (17) Alan O'Sullivan (Tuosist) (18) James O'Donoghue (Legion) (19) Pat Corridan (Finuge) 20) Aidan O'Sullivan (Piarsaigh na Dromada)
(21) Kieran O'Leary (Dr Crokes) (22) Barry John Keane (Kerins O'Rahillys) (23) Brian Looney (Dr. Crokes) (24) Paudge O'Connor (Legion) 25) Johnny Buckley (Dr Crokes)

dcr22B

Is Donaghy not supposed to be Stateside for the Superbowl? Typical bullsh1t from the Kerry meeja again to try and pull the wool over our eyes.

homerjay2005

dcr22B wrote: »

Is Donaghy not supposed to be Stateside for the Superbowl? Typical bullsh1t from the Kerry meeja again to try and pull the wool over our eyes.

darran o sullivan and gooch are the only 2 over there.others are missing as Marc O Se gets married today....

i never once read that star was going too. maybe the dublin meeja printed this somewhere...some lads on the kerry forum were saying this too,, but i never saw it anywhere...

dcr22B

Colm Keys in Wednesday's Indo mentioned it.

tatoo

homerjay2005 wrote: »

eh???

you not book online? i just checked, book online for about 46 euro return day trip also, no way its that much from dublin to killarney. you could fly up and down in the one day for 120 return..

meanwhile, kerry team is.....

The Kerry Team to play Dublin in The Allianz National Football League in Killarney on Sunday 7th February at 2.30pm is as follows:
(1)Ger Reidy, Castleisland Desmonds (2)Padraig Reidy Scartaglin (3) Tommy Griffin (Dingle) (4) Adrian O'Connell ( St Michael's Foilmore ) (5) Maurice Corridan (Finuge )(6) Aidan O'Mahony (Rathmore) (7) Killian Young (Renard)- Captain (8)Seamus Scanlon (Currow)(9) Micheál Quirke (Kerins O'Rahillys) (10)Paul Galvin (Finuge) (11) Declan O'Sullivan (Piarsaigh na Dromada) (12) Donnacha Walsh (Cromane) (13) Barry John Walsh (Kerins O'Rahillys) (14) Kieran Donaghy (Austin Stacks) (15) Paul O'Connor (Kenmare)

That's a pretty strong looking Kerry team all the same .

homerjay2005

dcr22B wrote: »

Colm Keys in Wednesday's Indo mentioned it.

since when was the indo a kerry paper?:P

star played in all the mcgrath cup games. hes mad keen for ball. all the rest aint back on the panel yet due to extended leave.

dcr22B

Well, Keys obviously got his info from someone in Kerry or did he just put two and two together and confuse Gridiron with basketball and assume that Donaghy was going?

Either way, I wouldn't be as confident looking at that Kerry team but the flipside to it is that you'll never find a better time to play Kerry than in their first game. Above all, I want to see us play well and as a unit.

homerjay2005

dcr22B wrote: »

Either way, I wouldn't be as confident looking at that Kerry team but the flipside to it is that you'll never find a better time to play Kerry than in their first game. Above all, I want to see us play well and as a unit.

weve got 5 of our all ireland starting team, this game is dublins to lose. im not confident at all, building a team and avoiding relegation is the aim for the league according to JOC. we could put out a different 15 Sunday that wont even be at the game.

dcr22B

Apologies if I vehemently disagree with you that it's our game to lose. That's typical Kerry mentality trying to build the opposition up before a fall.

You have 5 of your All Ireland starting team whereas we have 10 new faces from the match last August. You have household names in every line of the pitch whereas we have a rookie FB line (1 champo start between them), with the exception of Griff, we've no champo starters in the FB line. A weaker midfield on paper than you (although Fennell was on fire during the OB Cup). Our forward line would be far from what we SHOULD have come the summer.

Do you seriously expect me to believe that JOC is talking about avoiding relegation seriously? Is he f**k!!!

The rest of the country have seen through this cute hoorism that has eminated out of the Kerry camp in recent times. "Oh we're in strife", "The Dubs will beat us well". Sooner or later, we'll all get sick of it.

An Citeog

Have to agree with dcr22B here. Kerry are definite favourites and that forward line could run riot against a very inexperienced Dublin defence, especially down in Killarney. At the other end, I don't see where Dublin's scores are going to come from with only 2 natural forwards there in Blaine Kelly and Kev McManamon. Flynn and MacAuley are both natural midfielders and Henry and Hubbard defenders. I don't see Dublin getting anything out of this tbh.

Spiritoftheseventies

An Citeog wrote: »

Have to agree with dcr22B here. Kerry are definite favourites and that forward line could run riot against a very inexperienced Dublin defence, especially down in Killarney. At the other end, I don't see where Dublin's scores are going to come from with only 2 natural forwards there in Blaine Kelly and Kev McManamon. Flynn and MacAuley are both natural midfielders and Henry and Hubbard defenders. I don't see Dublin getting anything out of this tbh.

as mentioned before Henry plays in attack for his club.

Mr. Incognito

Delighted to see Andrew O'Connell get his start. Lives near me in Killarney.

Depends on how heavy the lads go tonight for Marc's wedding.

I think it'll be close. Dublin are going to be hungry for this after the thump in the Championship last year and Kerry are coming off a McGrath cup win and probably couldn't care less about this game.

Halfway through the league with Kerry at home I'd expect them to win, but this is a toss up imo.

Spiritoftheseventies

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Delighted to see Andrew O'Connell get his start. Lives near me in Killarney.

Depends on how heavy the lads go tonight for Marc's wedding.

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I assume that will be down to the Kerry management how heavy the lads go at wedding. They over do it and i'd assume they wont be playing the next day.

derra_121

Found a cheap way to get to Killarney if anyone isstill interested,

There is a train on sunday morning at 8.30 and its only 10Euro single, Then one on monday morning at 9:45 which is 10euro thats 20 return. All local hostels range from 12 - 21 euro, plus you get a night on the beer what more can you ask for....Come on you boys in blue:eek::eek::eek:

Pappy o' daniel

Dublin badly need a boost to moral and with kerry missing regulars it is a great chance to beat them at home. So why are the putting out such an experimental side? The last thing dublin needs is another beating.

How long has Gilroys term left to run? If I was from dublin id hope it was sooner than later.

Spiritoftheseventies

Pappy o' daniel wrote: »

Dublin badly need a boost to moral and with kerry missing regulars it is a great chance to beat them at home. So why are the putting out such an experimental side? The last thing dublin needs is another beating.

How long has Gilroys term left to run? If I was from dublin id hope it was sooner than later.

thats jumping the gun a bit . He is only in the job a season. Good to see him bring in some new players. Will liven things up.

manutd

It will be a good match, Dublin to win it bt less than5 pionts. It will be a eye opener for both teams.

joekeville

Hows everyone goin dwn ?
What are the bus timetables like cant find nothin ?

yayamark

dcr22B wrote: »

Is Donaghy not supposed to be Stateside for the Superbowl? Typical bullsh1t from the Kerry meeja again to try and pull the wool over our eyes.

Oh jesus please thats rich, what about the level of ****e we nearly drown under from Dublin "meeja" when Dublin win a Leinster Championship :rolleyes:

Looking forward to match good oportunity to be home and see the up an coming lads.

Can't see anything other than a Dublin win vs a Kerry "C" Team.

Travelling to game? I'll be walking :P maybe a few pints in the Laurels if anyone is around?

Using my new Season ticket as well.

Orizio

Kerry by 10+. Far stronger Kerry team then they were letting on during the week.

homerjay2005

Orizio wrote: »

Kerry by 10+. Far stronger Kerry team then they were letting on during the week.

it still is, bar about 5/6 players, essentially a B team. cant wait for this one now...

cruiserweight

Orizio wrote: »

Kerry by 10+. Far stronger Kerry team then they were letting on during the week.

Cork to lose by 50+ as well right

Just hoping for a good game, will see if I can catch it online

manster

Live on TG4 who also have an online player.

cruiserweight

manster wrote: »

Live on TG4 who also have an online player.

Normally good alright, I had problems with it for Donegal vs Tyrone, was more to do with my interweb connection

Spiritoftheseventies

cruiserweight wrote: »

Normally good alright, I had problems with it for Donegal vs Tyrone, was more to do with my interweb connection

good stuff. good luck to our boys.

Orizio

homerjay2005 wrote: »

it still is, bar about 5/6 players, essentially a B team. cant wait for this one now...

Ok Jay, what ever you say mate... (wink,wink)

Orizio

What time is TO?

yayamark

2.30pm

Dry windy day here so far.

Diabhal Beag

Paul Galvin on fire today. TG4 for those interested.

copacetic

on fire is pushing it a bit, poor miss just then. lovely goal for dublin.

Diabhal Beag

Two good scores for the Dubs. Paul Flynn looking good

copacetic

ohh, poor miss there from Kerry. Although prob justice done as the pass was thrown. Dublin sitting back on the lead a bit too much for me, but overall a reasonable display considering no-one was giving them much of a hope. Both teams looking a bit rusty but Dublin look a bit fitter and sharper.

edit1:
Jeez, galvin gets a let off, throws a punch and then gives the ref a slap on the arse for letting him off and deciding to throw it up. He played well, but just doesn't seem to have any sense at all.

Goal for Kerry. 1-11 to 1-10 to Dublin now.


edit2:
All over, bit of excitement at the end, with Dublin sitting back a bit much and letting Kerry back into it. 2 point win is a solid start, if meaningless at this time of year.

Dublinproud

Great to win with only one midfielder!

Diabhal Beag

Good result but ye fell asleep in the last 10 minutes which could have been costly.

Always good to get a win over Kerry

Spiritoftheseventies

great result. was out at time but looking forward to watching highlights later. Michael Muircheartaigh said last time we won down in Kingdom we went on win all ireland.

homerjay2005

Spiritoftheseventies wrote: »

great result. was out at time but looking forward to watching highlights later. Michael Muircheartaigh said last time we won down in Kingdom we went on win all ireland.

:eek::eek::eek: watch the media circus grow. a good league campaign and it will be worse than ever...

Marse

Good win, means nothing, but a great start.I was impressed with Fennell and MacAuley today.

yahoo_moe

copacetic wrote: »

2 point win is a solid start, if meaningless at this time of year.

It's meaningful in terms of belief and confidence though, particularly given the amount of new players at this level. I doubt it'll be a vintage year for Dublin in the Championship but it's encouraging to see defenders defending more solidly and making things difficult for the attackers, midfielders and forwards winning ball and taking chances. I thought MacAuley was particularly good, as was Fennell early on (he probably had to be after the last couple of weeks).

Spiritoftheseventies

Very impressed with Fennell. And McAuley great for our opening goal. Not getting carried away here but very encouraged with what i saw there.

CyberDave

A good win for the Dubs and lots of new faces on the team, which I think was well needed, but All-Irelands are not won in February.