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  • 03-02-2010 4:26pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,460
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    It has just struck me that the cycling forum is under Sports category.

    Therefore - should there be other forums for non-sports related cycling eg commuting and related mechancial issues etc!?!?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,481 Morgan
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    What would be the point of that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,995 blorg
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    No, there should not.

    Commuter racing is the most pure form of racing there is. The race that dare not speak its name and all that.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 11,394 Captain Havoc
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    I for one am tollerant of all cyclists (even mountain bikers) and would not like to see such biggotry dividing us.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,460 Slideshowbob
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    Wikipedia definition of sport:

    Sport is an activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Chips Lovell
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    No. We'd just end up visiting two forums rather than one.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,718 AstraMonti
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    Wikipedia definition of sport:

    Sport is an activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.

    meh

    Definition:
    An interjection used to imply indifference towards a subject; "a verbal shrug". This particular interjection has somehow become quite popular among teens, the reason for this popularity is a mystery. Other popular interjections are "bleh", "dah", and "mih". Usu. pronounced shortly, without eye contact or body movement.
    "You wanna go to the mall?"
    "Meh, I have nothing to do for the rest of the day..." etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,318 Raam
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    If anything we should have a separate forum for Euro and Fred.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,460 Slideshowbob
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    Raam wrote: »
    If anything we should have a separate forum for Euro and Fred.

    confusion would reign

    Isnt Euro an adjective and Fred a verb? correct me if I am wrong


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,831 ROK ON
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    Christ almight Slideshow. It strikes me that many of your posts are mischevious or simply downright negative. When the happy genes were given out at the start of your life, did you not get any?

    This forum works because it caters for such a broad church. I am not aware of many organisations that have shrunk to greatness.
    One if the consistent pointsthat I discern from your posts us that there are real competitive cyclists and then the rest (ie most if the members here).
    So what. What harm is it doing.

    You never know when some fred comes here for either advice or a bit of banter and actually gets hooked and be comes a pretty good competitive cyclist.
    Rant over. Apoligies. I am tired sick and grumpy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,318 Raam
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    Isnt Euro an adjective and Fred a verb? correct me if I am wrong

    I struggled with that one at the time of writing. In the end I decided to just wing it and hope people would let it slide.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,352 rottenhat
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    Isnt Euro an adjective and Fred a verb? correct me if I am wrong

    You are wrong. Fred is a noun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,833 niceonetom
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    Whinge is a verb and a noun though! Ay bob?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,505 DirkVoodoo
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    I euro, you fred, you all fred....hmmmm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,318 Raam
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    Oh, and Euro is an abstract noun.

    Like wealth, you either have it or you don't ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,505 DirkVoodoo
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    Raam wrote: »
    Oh, and Euro is an abstract noun.

    Shouldn't it be euro??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,352 rottenhat
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    Raam wrote: »
    Oh, and Euro is an abstract noun.

    No, no, it's a currency. You can buy cake with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,460 Slideshowbob
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    ROK ON wrote: »
    Christ almight Slideshow. It strikes me that many of your posts are mischevious or simply downright negative. When the happy genes were given out at the start of your life, did you not get any?

    This forum works because it caters for such a broad church. I am not aware of many organisations that have shrunk to greatness.
    One if the consistent pointsthat I discern from your posts us that there are real competitive cyclists and then the rest (ie most if the members here).
    So what. What harm is it doing.

    You never know when some fred comes here for either advice or a bit of banter and actually gets hooked and be comes a pretty good competitive cyclist.
    Rant over. Apoligies. I am tired sick and grumpy.

    I am merely expressing my opinion. If my threads like the one twenty minutes ago about the An Post team getting a result on the continent are too michevous or negitive or not happy enough for you I am sorry.

    You said yourself this is a broad church - sounds like you are trying to exclude me.

    Sometimes I feel too much is made of non-racing / racing differences here and creates a gulf between the two. There's not that much to trying racing.

    It's you who seems to assume that all here are freds - I couldn't jump to such a conclusion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,318 Raam
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    DirkVoodoo wrote: »
    Shouldn't it be euro??

    I don't know anymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,138 buffalo
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    ROK ON wrote: »
    Christ almight Slideshow. It strikes me that many of your posts are mischevious or simply downright negative. When the happy genes were given out at the start of your life, did you not get any?

    This forum works because it caters for such a broad church. I am not aware of many organisations that have shrunk to greatness.
    One if the consistent pointsthat I discern from your posts us that there are real competitive cyclists and then the rest (ie most if the members here).
    So what. What harm is it doing.

    You never know when some fred comes here for either advice or a bit of banter and actually gets hooked and be comes a pretty good competitive cyclist.
    Rant over. Apoligies. I am tired sick and grumpy.

    Speaking as someone who's cycled for nearly 15 years, but only invested in a decent road bike last year, I'd be completely against any division, for the reasons stated so clearly and rantfully by ROK ON. :)

    This forum is great because of its variety - advice on shops and servicing, road etiquette, and how best to stalk Lance, or where to watch the Rás from.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Chips Lovell
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    Sometimes I feel too much is made of non-racing / racing differences here and creates a gulf between the two. There's not that much to trying racing.

    I think separating the two would create a bigger gulf. People usually start out in cycling getting a bike for commuting or leisure spins and then work their way up to sportifs and later racing. There's a rake of people on here who wouldn't be racing if it weren't for the encouragement they got from other users.


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Chips Lovell
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    Of course the other thing is that it's the bloody first week in February and there's shag all racing going on.

    Speaking personally, I'm dying for the season to get going. I'm sick of threads about lights and turbos.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,318 Raam
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    el tonto wrote: »
    Of course the other thing is that it's the bloody first week in February and there's shag all racing going on.

    Speaking personally, I'm dying for the season to get going. I'm sick of threads about lights and turbos.

    We just need a helmet one to complete the week I think.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 11,394 Captain Havoc
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    Here's an idea, if there's a thread you don't reckon you'd be interested in, just don't read it, that's what I do when they're on about ratios and stuff.

    https://ormondelanguagetours.com

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 11,394 Captain Havoc
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    Raam wrote: »
    We just need a helmet one to complete the week I think.

    Why do we need a helmet? :p

    https://ormondelanguagetours.com

    Walking Tours of Kilkenny in English, French or German.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 Signal_ rabbit
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    But where would it end? If we split the two would we then have to sub-divide into flat or racing bars, or narrow it down even more based on model, for example a forum purely for people who have blue bikes?

    Obviously it's purely a rhetorical question as it's late in the day and I'm being silly, so no reply necessary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,318 Raam
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    Why do we need a helmet? :p

    To dangle off your handlebars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 Bunnyhopper
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    Raam wrote: »
    To dangle off your handlebars.

    Or to put your gloves in while you drink your ristretto.

    Should it be euro?

    I think it's a fair question for the OP to raise, but I feel that having a mixture of stuff on the one board is a good thing. Checking multiple boards would be a hassle, as el tonto said, but the greater loss would be to those who didn't check multiple boards and just stayed in their own clique.

    Cycling is a broad church so you could have fragmented boards all over the place (sport (with a variety of subdivisions), commuting and transport, even engineering or health sciences, etc.). Where you actually put it matters less to me than having one unified board.

    I arrived here interested in a bit of basic XC and commuting, with a passing interest in the Tour, and an ok knowledge of maintenance. I don't race and have no interest in getting into racing, but I do now know a lot more about road cycling, pro racing, commuter issues, training, cake, maintenance, the temptations of bankruptcy by way of carbon fibre, the back roads of Wicklow, the comic value of the word footpad, and many other things than I would if I hadn't ended up on here in a board that's wide-ranging enough to touch on all of those topics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 305 Billy Whizz
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    el tonto wrote: »
    Of course the other thing is that it's the bloody first week in February and there's shag all racing going on.

    ...apart from the small matter of a national championship :rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Chips Lovell
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    ...apart from the small matter of a national championship :rolleyes:

    OK, OK, aside from the cross championships.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,653 sy
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    It all about the bike
    Whether you ride it, desire it, upgrade it, race it, bunny hop it, curse it, buy it, downhill it, uphill it, despise it, bling it, crash it, mend it, cyclocross it, commute with it...................... its all about the bike

    Not sure how to do this


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,093 monument
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    I would generally be in two minds about this but have been going towards have to forums recently.

    Non-sport / fitness related threads just pushed too quickly to page 2, 3 and so on. That's find for daily users or those interested in sports or fitness, but the sports stuff just burries everything else. And it's even ok for somebody willing to visit every day or else look back a few pages like I do, but most people won't do that.

    This was page 1 a few mins ago, what could be seen as non-sports related (or an topic which effects sports and commuting) in bold:
    Cycling Dublin to waterford

    Cycling gear and what it says about you!

    Bike Spotter - Trek

    Bike computers

    Orwell Sunday Spin Today

    Cyclocross Photos

    Cycling Jerseys

    Shed security


    Red Light Jumpers in the Sunday Times


    Cyclocross Champs Update - Online Entry and Short Track XC

    Anyone up for a bit of duathlon?

    Tour of Qatar 2010

    More cold / snow / ice on the way!

    List of sportives for 2010

    blarney cycling club

    Dublin Saturday Spin - 6th Feb 2010

    Parts Advice

    Good result for An Post Team

    Carbon mountain bike; how much could you push one like this?

    training


    And the second page:
    choice between 2 mtbs (sizing problem)

    Browser warning when signing up for Dublin Bikes

    Clinchers v Tubular Tyres

    Franco Ballerini Dead

    Shimano Sora Rear Derailleur Hanger

    Frame Shopping - European Dealers

    Recommend a Helmet

    Rás Mumhan

    cycle shops open today (sunday) - dublin

    Dublin - European Capital of Sport 2010

    Lance watch

    New Chainring?

    Recommendation for endurance MTB race

    New Planet X TT Bike: The EXOCET

    Any Felt owners out there? Thoughts please [ah, this is about commuting, but 20km on a racer]

    Dublin Sunday Spin

    complete novice.. first time cycling in 10+ years

    Etape Hibernia

    Why cake? [sure everybody loves cake? No]

    Cycle to work scheme with annual travel ticket?

    Now, don't get me wrong, the level of different types of threads does change. This is just one example, maybe an extrema one.


  • Subscribers Posts: 16,617 copacetic
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    there is already a commuting forum

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=246

    People post about cycling commuting in cycling as it is where they want to post, they seem themselves more as cyclists that just 'commuters'. Besides the forum isn't particularly busy and seems to be working fine.

    There could be a sub forum for mechy stuff a bit like the guys are trying to get for motors, but again the forum isn't that busy. No doubt if things got really busy there would be road bike/mtn bike/fixie/cycle commuting forums etc like over on bike radar but we are a long way off the need for that yet.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,093 monument
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    copacetic wrote: »
    there is already a commuting forum

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=246

    People post about cycling commuting in cycling as it is where they want to post, they seem themselves more as cyclists that just 'commuters'. Besides the forum isn't particularly busy and seems to be working fine.

    There could be a sub forum for mechy stuff a bit like the guys are trying to get for motors, but again the forum isn't that busy. No doubt if things got really busy there would be road bike/mtn bike/fixie/cycle commuting forums etc like over on bike radar but we are a long way off the need for that yet.

    Cycling is one of boards.ie's busiest boards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 IM0
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    copacetic wrote: »
    there is already a commuting forum

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=246

    People post about cycling commuting in cycling as it is where they want to post, they seem themselves more as cyclists that just 'commuters'. Besides the forum isn't particularly busy and seems to be working fine.

    There could be a sub forum for mechy stuff a bit like the guys are trying to get for motors, but again the forum isn't that busy. No doubt if things got really busy there would be road bike/mtn bike/fixie/cycle commuting forums etc like over on bike radar but we are a long way off the need for that yet.

    This is pretty much what I was going to say. You see all if your basing your suggestions off of US mega sites RBR for example, you have to remember scale, the reason those sites are like that is that there is about 300,000 members there and so the site can support all the sub forums and they can stand alone, and be integrated and work succesfully, basically there isnt enough PEOPLE in Ireland to warrant a board that size never mind cyclists.


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    monument wrote: »
    Cycling is one of boards.ie's busiest boards.

    nah, barely in the top 10.

    but I meant 'busy' as compared to other cycling specific forums where there are forums for each and every niche. I don't believe we are anywhere near busy enough to require change at the moment.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 petethedrummer
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    I've been on a few small forums that are ruined by having too many sub-forums. Drumming Ireland for one. It takes ages to click around all the sub forums and decide where you're going to post. So I don't bother any more.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,093 monument
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    copacetic wrote: »
    nah, barely in the top 10.

    but I meant 'busy' as compared to other cycling specific forums where there are forums for each and every niche. I don't believe we are anywhere near busy enough to require change at the moment.

    I'm not sure what ranking, but I was told it is busy (will ask again). And I don't think comparing it to a international cycling board is really valid.
    I've been on a few small forums that are ruined by having too many sub-forums. Drumming Ireland for one. It takes ages to click around all the sub forums and decide where you're going to post. So I don't bother any more.

    Yeah, that can be a problem.


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    monument wrote: »
    I'm not sure what ranking, but I was told it is busy (will ask again).
    I think it's prob second or 3rd in sport and 9th or 10th overall. Depending on how you define 'busy'. You can get a rough idea by hitting any cat and looking at the number of posts for each forum
    monument wrote: »
    I don't think comparing it to a international cycling board is really valid.

    Of course comparing it to an international cycling board is valid, we are talking about splitting the forum into various sub forums, the way most bigger cycling forums are split up. What could be more valid?

    It's all about picking the right time to do it, and the time is when the forum is way too busy to not do it and not before.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,093 monument
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    copacetic wrote: »
    Of course comparing it to an international cycling board is valid, we are talking about splitting the forum into various sub forums, the way most bigger cycling forums are split up. What could be more valid?

    One split: Sporting and commuting. We're not talking about around 10 or more sub forums as some sites have.

    It's all about picking the right time to do it, and the time is when the forum is way too busy to not do it and not before.

    That's a very hard thing to define when there are people put off posting and they are not interested in sports / fitness which dominates this board.

    Anyway, as I say, I'm more in two minds than anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,221 Lumen
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    monument wrote: »
    One split: Sporting and commuting. We're not talking about around 10 or more sub forums as some sites have.

    I would very rarely go into a commuting subforum. Maybe that would be for the best. :pac:

    Sport cycling is necessarily a bit hardcore at the participatory level compared to other sports (football and running, for instance) and recreational cyclists could find a dedicated forum intimidating, if some of the pro cycling threads we've had are anything to go by.

    I think commuting and sport provide a nice balance, and a combined forum provides both aspects and the middle ground.

    In any case, the forum isn't budy enough to warrant a split.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,234 flickerx
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    I dont have much interest in the competitive/racing end of cycling, but I think this forum should be left alone. There is a good mix of posts, and the collective knowledge of the members when it comes to repairs, builds, etc really helps out with newbies.

    As someone else mentioned before, there is already a commuting forum - people who are only interested in cycling as a form of commuting can go there. Yes there will be other types of commuters in there too, but gasp horror, you might have to interact with them and try to work out the best ways to integrate cycling into their lives too.

    I'll say it again: leave this forum alone. It works. It's fun. No split. And I get the feeling that most people bar one or two feel the same way.


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    Lumen wrote: »
    In any case, the forum isn't budy enough to warrant a split.

    ah now, don't be like that, everyones your budy, buddy.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,393 Beasty
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    I really don't see what a split woulkd achieve. Probably well over half the threads are relevant to both commuters are "sportier" cyclists, and I would guess we would just end up duplicating coverage of a number of items. 90%+ of my cycling is commuting, but I suspect I would still probably end up either splitting my time between 2 forums, or completely ignoring one because hardly anyone would post there.


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