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stanley1 · 21-02-2011 06:39PM

updated and can play back all recordings, must be skin or maybe plugin issue. I'm using default vix hd skin.

dfdream · 21-02-2011 08:35PM

Andy put up a temporary fix around 4pm until PLi come up with permanent fix.

I think he rolled back some modules.

D

jgc115 · 21-02-2011 09:14PM

Yeah, I updated to v2.0.3 earlier on today (after doing backup first) and it worked fine for me - I'm using magic hd skin - Unfortunately my green timer button still doesn't work, which is not a big deal as timers are accessible through the menu anyway.

dfdream · 21-02-2011 09:28PM

If the green button didnt work there is a chance that you didnt get all the updates.
When I had the recording playback issue the green button was fine.

Andy in VIX was rolling back the problem modules to older versions until there was a solution so maybe thats why the green button is not working again.

This is the problem with shared base platforms. Once gets a bug they all get it.

Update - just did update on vix 2.02 and there was 33 packages.
When I did it last night there was 89 packages.
So there is tonnes of updates left out since yesterday.

D

Robxxx7 · 21-02-2011 10:14PM

not neccesarily true ... in a more structured role out you would have a stable base to work from then only allow those modules that have been updated into your own repository after testing ..then do a public release.

Its all well and good blaming PLi for the bugs but Vix didn't have to release them aswell ... its their own image that they should be control testing

irishgeo · 21-02-2011 11:31PM

i been trying to get my USB nova-t stick to work with no luck.

i even tried it with my laptop and it didnt pick any channels.

have i ordered the correct one.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hauppauge-WinTV-NOVA-T-USB-Stick-freeview/dp/tech-data/B000F8RPQE/ref=de_a_smtd

stanley1 · 22-02-2011 05:09AM

have you downloaded drivers from plugins - dvb - win nova-t, it looks like the right stick, is there a number on back, eg 70019

irishgeo · 22-02-2011 08:08AM

stanley1 wrote: »

have you downloaded drivers from plugins - dvb - win nova-t, it looks like the right stick, is there a number on back, eg 7070.

I didn't download drivers for it. I was wondering where everyone was getting them.

RogerThis · 22-02-2011 08:48AM

dfdream · 22-02-2011 09:38AM

All,

I've been using the Nova-T for the last 3 weeks now and have to say (for me anyway) its a pile of Sh...

I've had so many problems I dont know where to start.

DTT Recordings stopping for no reason half way through.
DTT channels going black.
DTT channels with only sound.
All DTT Channels gone.
Bad pixelling on recordings but fine while watching the same program.
Changing to a DTT channel shows nothing only a freeze frame from the last channel. (see attachment - On RTE2 but freeze frame of RTE1).

All of the above require a reboot to sort.

I've tried PLI 2.0 and Vix 2.0 incl with updates and its all the same.

The tuner supplier has sent me a second one so I should have in a few days.
If that fails then I will look at the sundtek option. Dear is better than not working.

What amazes me is that everyone else finds the nova-t works 100% .. . . .Go Figure.

Ahhhhhhhhh !!!!!

stanley1 · 22-02-2011 10:10AM

send a pm to irishchris, he has done a lot of testing for vix on sundtek dvb stick, I think he may also recently have bought a new nova-t stick, I'm pretty sure he would have found any major issues with the hauppauge stick.

HTH

dfdream · 22-02-2011 10:49AM

Thanks Stan will do...

BTW are you still using the NOVA-T usb tuner.
If yes how it going.

I also posted this on VIX Site and judging from the positive response for the NOVA-T I wonder is the issue to do with MPEG4 (DTT in Ireland) and ok on MPEG2 (freeview) and the decoding of the mpeg4 by the receiver.

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stanley1 · 22-02-2011 12:34PM

your box may be running short of memory, have you swapfile activated? nova-t has been working fine with no issues, I have not tried recording dvb-s and dtt together, may have a go at this tonight.

RogerThis · 22-02-2011 01:56PM

I have also had problems last Saturday with my WinTV Nova-T. Three times I had to restart my box. Black screen with VIX slowly spinning, only fix was to restart the box. I have a 64mb swap file on a usb stick.

dfdream · 22-02-2011 01:57PM

Thanks lad that would be great.

I record about 5-6 programs most nights. (most I will probably never see)
And of course everything is on between 8-10 (especially Mondays, tuesdays and wednesdays) so the 3 tuners could be going at the same time.

Swap is enabled - 50mb to usb.

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Gipo3 · 22-02-2011 03:27PM

I have just posted same problem over on vuplus-support, also I dont have swap file enabled.

dfdream · 22-02-2011 03:35PM

Thanks GIPO for the reply.

At least it seems Im not going mad.

I think (because its only Paddys) its to do with the box managing the mpeg4 stream on irish DTT.

If so it will never be sorted because of a small audience.
Though they use the same DTT in Italy I think.

Maybe irishchris will save the day.
Hes doing some tests on VUO/Nova-T tonight to see if he can replicate the problem.

I too notice if you leave it alone (no channel hopping or other recordings) it does seem to be alot better at recording one DTT but if you record another or playback a recording it starts to effect the recording of the DTT channel, pixels, stopping or locking up the DTT channel or locking up the DTT tuner.

D

Gipo3 · 22-02-2011 03:40PM

If you record rte2 foran example for say 2 mins then start recording bbchd, when you go to watch rte2 recording it will start to pixelate at two mins.

byte · 22-02-2011 07:44PM

Damn, I've a Nova-T on order with Amazon!

I'm thinking now of maybe cancelling and getting the Sundtek, despite the price diff...

RogerThis · 22-02-2011 07:56PM

I think there could be the same problems with the sundtek.
http://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?6323-NOVA-WIN-T-on-ViX-2.0/page6

byte · 22-02-2011 08:36PM

Would it be a case of all this multitasking of watching and recording multiple sources pushing the Vu+ hardware beyond its capabilities?

stanley1 · 22-02-2011 08:51PM

yep, I think you nailed it there.

Tony · 22-02-2011 09:00PM

Just got a VU duo today, hell of a box I have to say. Look forward to playing with it over the next few days

stanley1 · 22-02-2011 09:11PM

welcome to green screen utopia.

irishgeo · 22-02-2011 09:17PM

i got mine showing up but cant get it to pick up anything on the small black aerial , i dont have outdoor aerial to try it on.

so mine might be for sale.

Apogee · 22-02-2011 09:28PM

Gipo3 wrote: »

If you record rte2 foran example for say 2 mins then start recording bbchd, when you go to watch rte2 recording it will start to pixelate at two mins.

I hadn't noticed this pixellation effect before, but then I don't have multiple recordings usually. But when I tested a simultaneous recording of RTÉ2 and BBCHD, sure enough, the playback of RTÉ2 showed glitching in the video.

3 simultaneous recordings of BBCHD, BBC One HD and ITV HD seems to run fine. So it would appear as though the mix of satellite and usb device recording is where the problem lies.

byte · 22-02-2011 09:30PM

byte wrote: »

Damn, I've a Nova-T on order with Amazon!

I'm thinking now of maybe cancelling and getting the Sundtek, despite the price diff...

Well, it has been shipped already, so I guess I'm going to make do with whatever limitations it may or may not bring.

As long as I can get the thing to work!

jgc115 · 22-02-2011 09:59PM

OK - I've just finished a bit of testing and first of all here is what I have.
Vu+ with Sundtek DTT stick and VIX v2.0.3 (haven't downgraded yet). I also have an indoor aerial in the attic and am getting 91% to 99% signal quality on the DTT channels from 2Rock3 Rock.

I recorded 5 channels, simultaneously, 3 DTT and 2 Sat channels:-
RTE1
RTE2 HD
TV3
BBC1 HD
BBC HD

and for 3 minutes (due to overlap) I was recording 6 channels simultaneously, the 6th being Dave on Satellite.
I was also flicking through the various channels while recording all and checked all recordings afterwards for a minute or so. I did not get any pixelation or blank screens on either DTT or Satellite. So I think the Vu+ is pretty dam good to handle all that at the same time.

irishchris · 22-02-2011 10:05PM

hi guys

extensively tested this tonight with sundtek and have no issues whatsoever have tried having 3 hd recordings at once {rte2hd dtt + bbc one hd + rte 2 sat} left running for an hour an no issue of pixelation or problem of any sort. checked recordings after and no glitching or probs.

going to test the nova t now

can everyone try this tonight that has issues:
record one hd sat
record rte2 upscaled hd channel on dtt
record sd second sat channel

leave for 10 mins and check for probs during record and check recordings.

then do same as above but instead of last option of an sd channel change to recording a 2nd hd channel and report here of any issues. screenshots would be great and any crashlogs if for some reason it crashes. also report what skins you guys using and system details eg swap file used and what sized.
also if you guys could telnet the box during recording and issue the command free and keep post the results here and also the command top and report also the top 3 of the list it will give here.

screenshots attached for info purpose from when i tested sundtek. also this was with my not yet released skin so depending on you guys to not post my screenshots of this outside this forum please.

dfdream · 22-02-2011 10:10PM

Have I unleashed hell....

I asked these questions for 2 weeks now and it was all rosey in the garden, but today its really kicked off.

I see the replies I got from guys in Vix Site that the issue wasnt with them.

There are 2 possible reasons for this.
1 - they never did the type of tests mentioned above or
2 - if their tests are good then the issue is that the tuners dont have the right support for mpeg4 but something in the driver on the duo to manage the stream.

Will do.

Have been recording flat out all evening.
2 x Greys (RTE2) - Prime Time (RTE1) all on DTT
Blue Blood on HD
CSI on Five HD.

Will let ye know how they look....

D

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