The obscure player you know who you'd say is good enough for the Premier League

30-01-2010 4:52pm #1

Long name for a thread title I know, but, coincidentally, these obscure players tend to have ridiculously long names or just downright average names.

Well now onto the idea of the thread. This thread is taking into account players you know from experience of watching them and not taking into account that Hull are a premier league team.

Which players do you see in other leagues than the PL that are good enough for the Premier League? To me I think there are a few which are good enough and have never really been with a large enough club to have attained such praise, namely Alex of Fenerbache, he's their talisman and playmaker, I think there's only been 6 matches in his whole career with Fener that he hasn't helped with creating or scoring a goal (either having an assist or scoring). A player like this would be a top notch player for even the top 4, to me I think he's the type of player who'd fit in Manchester Uniteds midfield as a creative player with a lot of flair.

Another to me would probably be Lucian Sanmartean. What makes him stand out is his absolutely fabulous ball control and ability to dribble himself through defensive lines without getting touched. He rarely gets involved into physical battles and that's an incredible excersize and only proves his finesse. He dances past most tackles and leaves untouched unless someone deliberately wants to foul him. His passing and vision is beyond the rest of his team making it difficult for him to organize the game properly. Although he still plys his trade in Romania, hes a top notch player and would be a similar enough player to Alex in his playmaking nature.

Another player I'd like to mention is arguably one of the best dribblers in the world. Ibrahima Yattara, he is probably the best player in Turkey due to his technical abilities. He can use the flanks expertly, especially with his runs down the right to supply his team mates with ever so accurate crosses. He has some smooth finishing skills and shows his composure as if he were a striker. He's also capable of scoring some crackin free kicks from long range as well. His playing style is something like Ronaldinho and he could me mentioned in the same class as him. His loyalty is something which is rare, other big soccer clubs Fenerbahce ,Galatasaray,Besiktas wanted him, but he did not want to play for any other team than Trabzonspor.

That_Guy · 30-01-2010 4:53pm

Marvin Emnes - Boro

Victor Moses - Palace

DazMarz · 30-01-2010 4:55pm

Jefferson Farfán - Schalke 04

Bloody little firecracker so he is... Would have loved if he'd come to the Prem after he left PSV Eindhoeven... But alas, was not to be.

I reckon he'd slot right into a lot of Prem squads.

Xavi6 · 30-01-2010 4:57pm

Adam Johnson - Boro

Edin Dzeko - Wolfsburg

Miralem Pjanić - Lyon

30-01-2010 4:59pm

That_Guy wrote: »

Marvin Emnes - Boro

Victor Moses - Palace

Really? Emnes seems too clumsly for the Premiership to me in the glimpes I caught of him last year, and I think Moses is suffering from the same thing Sean Scannell is suffering from... Not knowing what his main position is. Although I still think Moses is too raw for the PL, he'd be best of staying in the Championship imo.

DazMarz wrote: »

Jefferson Farfán - Schalke 04

Bloody little firecracker so he is... Would have loved if he'd come to the Prem after he left PSV Eindhoeven... But alas, was not to be.

I reckon he'd slot right into a lot of Prem squads.

Easily, he's an absolute beast. Speed demon comes to mind!

PHB · 30-01-2010 4:59pm

Dzeko and Pjanic obscure?

Sure most of the top clubs in the world have looked at them.

30-01-2010 5:01pm

pffft. Pjanic is the poor mans Hazard.

joe123 · 30-01-2010 5:02pm

Xavi6 wrote: »

Adam Johnson - Boro

Edin Dzeko - Wolfsburg

Miralem Pjanić - Lyon

Definitely. Ive seen him a good few times and I think hes class. Can head the ball as if hes driven it with his foot.

Jan Klaas Huntelaar aswell. Not sure if hes that obscure anymore though but hes unproven in the Premier league and alot of people still dont know of him. Would love to see him at Liverpool.

Suarez of Ajax.

Akinfeev again hes better known now though.

ctrl-alt-delete · 30-01-2010 5:03pm

Bogdan Stancu - Steaua Bucharest

All_in_Flynn · 30-01-2010 5:16pm

Gary Dicker - Brighton & Hove Albion

Kjaer - Palermo

Rekop dog · 30-01-2010 5:32pm

Wes Hollanhan- Norwich

/thread

That_Guy · 30-01-2010 5:33pm

Tom Cleverly too actually now that I think about it.

Liam O · 30-01-2010 5:38pm

Rekop dog wrote: »

Wes Hollanhan- Norwich

/thread

Is he of relation to Wes Hoolahan? Might be a footballing family?

Rekop dog · 30-01-2010 5:41pm

Liam O wrote: »

Is he of relation to Wes Hoolahan? Might be a footballing family?

No families tend to have the same surname:).

Bubs101 · 30-01-2010 5:46pm

PHB wrote: »

Dzeko and Pjanic obscure?

Sure most of the top clubs in the world have looked at them.

Yeah, smacks of Premiership arrogance to say that the best players in the 4th and 5th best leagues in the world would be good enough for the likes of Everton or Spurs. Dzeko is going to walk into a top 4 team in Italy or England soon enough

grenache · 30-01-2010 5:47pm

Radoslav Majewski - Forest

Rekop dog · 30-01-2010 5:50pm

Bubs101 wrote: »

Dzeko is going to walk into a top 4 team in Italy or England soon enough

He's more or less agreed to join Milan in the summer. There his dream club.

missingtime · 30-01-2010 5:55pm

grenache wrote: »

Radoslav Majewski - Forest

Someones been looking at sky sports scout

Smegball · 30-01-2010 5:55pm

Michael Bradley of Borussia Mönchengladbach

3hn2givr7mx1sc · 30-01-2010 5:58pm

Colin Kazim of Fenerbache. I have seen glimpses of him and he's looked fantastic.

SligoBrewer · 30-01-2010 6:02pm

Gary Deegan

eagle eye · 30-01-2010 6:09pm

Peniel Mlapa(Germany) - 1860 Munich(Germany)
Neymar(Brazil) - Santos(Brazil)
Enrique Esqueda(Mexico) - America(Mexico)
Carlos Quintero(Colombia) - Santos Laguna(Mexico)

dyl10 · 30-01-2010 6:12pm

Smegball wrote: »

Michael Bradley of Borussia Mönchengladbach

Is he Irish?

Eire-Dearg · 30-01-2010 6:14pm

No, he's American.

Class player, good shout whoever mentioned it.

Smegball · 30-01-2010 6:15pm

dyl10 wrote: »

Is he Irish?

American, played class in the Confederations Cup, is also the USA managers son

cson · 30-01-2010 6:24pm

Trains Connacht Rugby in his spare time too.

davyjose · 30-01-2010 6:27pm

Bubs101 wrote: »

Yeah, smacks of Premiership arrogance to say that the best players in the 4th and 5th best leagues in the world would be good enough for the likes of Everton or Spurs. Dzeko is going to walk into a top 4 team in Italy or England soon enough

Lionel Messi - Barce-something

Zapp Brannigan · 30-01-2010 6:33pm

baz2009 wrote: »

Colin Kazim of Fenerbache. I have seen glimpses of him and he's looked fantastic.

Played with Watford in the PL a couple of seasons ago, didn't he?

blindpilot · 30-01-2010 6:36pm

Zapp Brannigan wrote: »

Played with Watford in the PL a couple of seasons ago, didn't he?

He was with Sheffield United. From what I remember he wasnt all that great. Seems to have improved since he left however.

30-01-2010 6:37pm

Zapp Brannigan wrote: »

Played with Watford in the PL a couple of seasons ago, didn't he?

Sheffield United, used to play for BHA too, good player, not good enough for Fenerbache though. He's been sent on Loan to Toulouse me thinks...

Diabhal Beag · 30-01-2010 6:38pm

Richard Snodgrass

Victor Moses

Brian Murphy when you look at the current standard of keepers ATM

Zapp Brannigan · 30-01-2010 6:39pm

blindpilot wrote: »

He was with Sheffield United. From what I remember he wasnt all that great. Seems to have improved since he left however.

Sheffield! I knew it was one of the relegated teams anyway

vestanpance · 30-01-2010 6:45pm

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Richard Snodgrass

Is he related to Robert Snodgrass who plays for Leeds:D

Glico Man · 30-01-2010 6:52pm

Toni Kroos of Bayer Leverkusen/Bayern Munich

He's won the Golden Ball at the U17 World Cup and looks like a very good prospect for Germany and has scored goals at every international level so far

eagle eye · 30-01-2010 8:30pm

Oh I forgot about Daniel Maldini, it'll be a couple of years yet but he is already with Milan. And yes its Paolo's son.

Boggles · 31-01-2010 12:51am

Nani

Xavi6 · 31-01-2010 1:01am

baz2009 wrote: »

Colin Kazim of Fenerbache. I have seen glimpses of him and he's looked fantastic.

Playing for Toulouse at the mo -

_blank_ · 31-01-2010 1:05am

Wes Hoolahan is not good enough for the Prem.

therokerroar · 31-01-2010 1:09am

Dorin Goian - A 6 ft 5" Romainian centre back. I remember watching quite a bit of him in club games and at Euro 2008 when my team Sunderland were reported to be interested and thought he had more than enough about him to become a decent Premier League player. A terrific display against Italy in Euro 2008 caught the attention of Palermo, where he now plays.

JPA · 31-01-2010 1:09am

Óscar Cardozo, Benfica.
Made for the Premier League I think.

Kirnsy · 31-01-2010 1:39am

arda turan - galatasaray...quality player.

dreamers75 · 31-01-2010 2:22am

Des wrote: »

Wes Hoolahan is not good enough for the Prem.

yes he is, just not for 90 minutes of it.

Enda Stevens/Craig Walsh Shamrock Rovers.

Not getting the Victor Moses love in tbh, has anyone actually seen him play ? are they ame people who thing Fabian Delph or Beckford is prem class???

31-01-2010 4:20am

therokerroar wrote: »

Dorin Goian - A 6 ft 5" Romainian centre back. I remember watching quite a bit of him in club games and at Euro 2008 when my team Sunderland were reported to be interested and thought he had more than enough about him to become a decent Premier League player. A terrific display against Italy in Euro 2008 caught the attention of Palermo, where he now plays.

He's not got a look in at Palermo, 3rd choice thanks to Kjaer.

dreamers75 wrote: »

Not getting the Victor Moses love in tbh, has anyone actually seen him play ? are they ame people who thing Fabian Delph or Beckford is prem class???

Delph plays for Villa, and yeah Beckford has more of a poaching instinct to him than most players in the EPL do.

Xavi6 wrote: »

Playing for Toulouse at the mo -

Intuition serves me well.

aaronh007 wrote: »

Toni Kroos of Bayer Leverkusen/Bayern Munich

He's won the Golden Ball at the U17 World Cup and looks like a very good prospect for Germany and has scored goals at every international level so far

Someone watched ESPN for free the other night didn't they?

therokerroar · 31-01-2010 9:54am

Deleted User wrote: »

He's not got a look in at Palermo, 3rd choice thanks to Kjaer.

Aye, I'd love to see Sunderland go back in for him to be honest, I reckon he'd be a coup.

Krusader · 31-01-2010 11:02am

Paddy McCourt , Celtic

therokerroar · 31-01-2010 12:21pm

FFS, most of the players mentioned on this thread are so far away from obscure it's unreal.

Cardoza, Dzeko and Pjanic, how in the name of God are they obscure? :rolleyes:

JPA · 31-01-2010 2:32pm

therokerroar wrote: »

FFS, most of the players mentioned on this thread are so far away from obscure it's unreal.

Cardoza, Dzeko and Pjanic, how in the name of God are they obscure? :rolleyes:

In fairness not everyone follows the leagues of Europe. Most of the bigger name players mentioned are a step away from stardom at the highest level rather than actually being obscure.
Although I will admit that most people would know who Dzeko is at this stage.