BBC HD under fire over alledged drop in picture quality

reboot

Computer Active magazine.
The BBC have come under fire over an alleged drop in HD picture quality,
from 16 M Bits/sec to under 10.
Spokesperson Danielle Nagler said," The majority of viewers are happy with picture quality".

Minstrel27

BBC HD is definately not as sharp as other HD channels I have. These would include ITV HD and Sky One HD

T-Square

The majority are usually the idiots

byte

The majority are those who probably notice but don't make official complaints.

Zonda999

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055812482

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055669261

Been discussed before, its odd but clearly there's no going back, a shame it used to look close to blu-ray sharpness, now i swear Luxe TV HD looks better which is a shock but disappointing..

John mac

reboot wrote: »

Computer Active magazine.
The BBC have come under fire over an alleged drop in HD picture quality,
from 16 M Bits/sec to under 10.
Spokesperson Danielle Nagler said," The majority of viewers are happy with picture quality".

this debate has been ongoing since last August /September


some more talk on this blog

reboot

John mac wrote: »

this debate has been ongoing since last August /September


some more talk on this blog

Thank you for the information re BBC HD,very informative.
When I started working with HD over ten years ago it was then 1250 lines.
Quality seems to appear to increase when the engineers are asked to come up with it,but as soon as possible the suits ,bean counters reduce,compress and generally try to fool the paying public.
Perhaps a thread on quality and its demise is worth considering,
thinking also of audio,MP3 etc.
On another matter I know well covered ,but not resolved on my part is my inability to receive ITV HD on the Amstrad HD box ,even with the new EPG.When this was raised a while ago I was shouted down,did me no harm.

John mac

reboot wrote: »

On another matter I know well covered ,but not resolved on my part is my inability to receive ITV HD on the Amstrad HD box ,even with the new EPG.When this was raised a while ago I was shouted down,did me no harm.

11.428 H 27500 2/3

have you input this correctly?

the channel comes up as 10501
It only broadcasts at certain times.

heres some :- (taken from here)


Tuesday 2nd February 2010 (9.00pm) Amanda Holden’s Fantasy Lives
Tuesday 2nd February 2010 (10.35pm) Piers Morgan on Dubai
Wednesday 3rd February 2010 (7.30pm) FA Cup Football: Leeds United v Tottenham Hotspur
Thursday 4th February 2010 (9.00pm) The Bill
Friday 5th February 2010 (10.35pm) Jaws 2 (film)
Saturday 6th February 2010 (12.40pm) Big Fat Liar (film)
Saturday 6th February 2010 (4.40pm) Evan Almighty (film)
Saturday 6th February 2010 (11.40pm) The Deer Hunter (film)
Sunday 7th February 2010 (8.30pm) Wild at Heart
Sunday 7th February 2010 (12.35am) To Kill a Mockingbird (film)
Monday 8th February 2010 (9.00pm) Law & Order: UK
Monday 8th February 2010 (10.35pm) Red Dragon (film)
Tuesday 9th February 2010 (9.0pm) Amanada Holden’s Fantasy Lives
Tuesday 9th February 2010 (10.35pm) Piers Morgan on Monte Carlo
Wednesday 10th February 2010 (7.30pm) Lion Country
Thursday 11th February 2010 (9.00pm) The Bill

reboot

John mac wrote: »

11.428 H 27500 2/3

have you input this correctly?

the channel comes up as 10501
It only broadcasts at certain times.

heres some :- (taken from here)


Tuesday 2nd February 2010 (9.00pm) Amanda Holden’s Fantasy Lives
Tuesday 2nd February 2010 (10.35pm) Piers Morgan on Dubai
Wednesday 3rd February 2010 (7.30pm) FA Cup Football: Leeds United v Tottenham Hotspur
Thursday 4th February 2010 (9.00pm) The Bill
Friday 5th February 2010 (10.35pm) Jaws 2 (film)
Saturday 6th February 2010 (12.40pm) Big Fat Liar (film)
Saturday 6th February 2010 (4.40pm) Evan Almighty (film)
Saturday 6th February 2010 (11.40pm) The Deer Hunter (film)
Sunday 7th February 2010 (8.30pm) Wild at Heart
Sunday 7th February 2010 (12.35am) To Kill a Mockingbird (film)
Monday 8th February 2010 (9.00pm) Law & Order: UK
Monday 8th February 2010 (10.35pm) Red Dragon (film)
Tuesday 9th February 2010 (9.0pm) Amanada Holden’s Fantasy Lives
Tuesday 9th February 2010 (10.35pm) Piers Morgan on Monte Carlo
Wednesday 10th February 2010 (7.30pm) Lion Country
Thursday 11th February 2010 (9.00pm) The Bill

Thank you for the info,particularly 1050I assume a symbol rate of 27.5.

I have been trying this over several weeks in a friends house and with no success,results as follows.

All eight other channels appear and are stored.However when I try to select them "No satellite signal appears,and of course no picture or sound on any channel.
Could there be a download problem and should I try to manually download.
Obviously none of the above is in sky's interest and going through the new Amstrad EPG causes one to loose the will to live sometimes.
Am I the only one with these problems,is it an Amstrad box problem or is Ohm;s law an act of parliament?

John mac

whats the signal quality like? (services,0,4)

reboot

John mac wrote: »

whats the signal quality like? (services,0,4)

Signal quality 80%,all channels working well.

reboot

John mac wrote: »

whats the signal quality like? (services,0,4)

Signal quality 80% as mentioned earlier,was in Currys at Sprucefield and sales assistant punched ITV HD channel up on screen ,no problem,but still no joy back at the ranch.No sat.signal, on ITV other channels.

John mac

Don't know what else you can do

unless you try deleting all the added channels and adding them again

( this is a wild guess) but you never know:D

reboot

John mac wrote: »

Don't know what else you can do

unless you try deleting all the added channels and adding them again

( this is a wild guess) but you never know:D

Would you believe it,deleting all the channels worked,ITV HD has arrived.
The only other information appearing during the "fault"condition was along with "No satellite signal",the figures 48.
Thank you again for persisting with a daft query,and for the Freesat shedule site.The fact that there is nothing to watch is not nearly as interesting as not being able to sort the fault out.

reboot

John mac wrote: »

this debate has been ongoing since last August /September


some more talk on this blog

Seems BBC are dumping their HD viewers over to SD,when it suits them?
Last evening ,Sunday "Larkrise"(Whatever you may think of it),was only
available on BBC 1,while HD channel was given over to the Winter Olympics.Are viewers still "Happy"?.When will they become Unhappy and ask for a proportioate reduction in subscription.
What will happen when HD football goes universal?

evilivor

reboot wrote: »

Seems BBC are dumping their HD viewers over to SD,when it suits them?
Last evening ,Sunday "Larkrise"(Whatever you may think of it),was only
available on BBC 1,while HD channel was given over to the Winter Olympics.Are viewers still "Happy"?.When will they become Unhappy and ask for a proportioate reduction in subscription.
What will happen when HD football goes universal?

I don't think shifting the shows around the schedule is exactly "dumping their HD viewers", that Larkrise lark is on BC HD during the week and while other shows like "Survivors" are shifted by a hour, they only have the one HD channel so, they do their best in fairness to them.

I'm a bit annoyed Nurse Jackie's been bumped this week but as I ain't paying a sub for it, I can't really complain.

reboot

evilivor wrote: »

I don't think shifting the shows around the schedule is exactly "dumping their HD viewers", that Larkrise lark is on BC HD during the week and while other shows like "Survivors" are shifted by a hour, they only have the one HD channel so, they do their best in fairness to them.

I'm a bit annoyed Nurse Jackie's been bumped this week but as I ain't paying a sub for it, I can't really complain.

Another point is that the episode of "Larkrise" is the new one,each Sunday,Maybe BBC should have a dedicated Sports TV channel for the fans ,and they could pay for it.Radio 5 live and all that.
The sooner pay per view arrives the better. Feel better now.

pa990

reboot wrote: »

Another point is that the episode of "Larkrise" is the new one,each Sunday,Maybe BBC should have a dedicated Sports TV channel for the fans ,and they could pay for it.Radio 5 live and all that.
The sooner pay per view arrives the better. Feel better now.

Pay Per View..
Are you mad..
I for one only want FTA.
And the more (quality) FTA the better

reboot

pa990 wrote: »

Pay Per View..
Are you mad..
I for one only want FTA.
And the more (quality) FTA the better

Sorry,of course I'm mad,but at least I can comfort myself with RTE Gold on DAB.

reboot

reboot wrote: »

Computer Active magazine.
The BBC have come under fire over an alleged drop in HD picture quality,
from 16 M Bits/sec to under 10.
Spokesperson Danielle Nagler said," The majority of viewers are happy with picture quality".

As one of the number of people taking a while to get used to the new EPG on SKy HD box,I found it particularly annoying to find that I could no longer page up or down.
As all the smart folk out there can tell you ,there is a small logo bottom right of screen telling me to use the "Channel up" button.
Maybe "The majority of viewers are happy not knowing that"?
Or maybe its just me?

John mac

reboot wrote: »

As one of the number of people taking a while to get used to the new EPG on SKy HD box,I found it particularly annoying to find that I could no longer page up or down.

yes you can . if you use channel up down button (right hand side of Select button)

evilivor

reboot wrote: »

Another point is that the episode of "Larkrise" is the new one,each Sunday,Maybe BBC should have a dedicated Sports TV channel for the fans ,and they could pay for it.Radio 5 live and all that.
The sooner pay per view arrives the better. Feel better now.

By the way, after defending BeebHD on this before, I'm now really peeved with them for them for the messing about with shows like Mad Men and Nurse Jackie, as they seem to have lost an episode of both.

reboot

evilivor wrote: »

By the way, after defending BeebHD on this before, I'm now really peeved with them for them for the messing about with shows like Mad Men and Nurse Jackie, as they seem to have lost an episode of both.

Next weeks Grey's Anatomy cancelled on RTE because of sport.
Any sign of that Sport filter yet?