Crowns/veneers: price?

#15

Hi, I am completely clueless about this. But I am considering getting crowns/veneers to my front teeth.
I'm just wondering how much is a fair price for such work?
I have been on a few different site and the prices have varied quite a bit. Its a bit daunting for someone who doesn't know anything about it.
Would I be better off going up north or will I get the same value here.
Help would be v much appreciated.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Depends on how good a job you want, if you want ceramics made by one of the worlds best technicians and prepared and fitted by a really good dentist then they will cost more than standard veneers from a large production lab and a general dentist. It like asking "how much is a car?" or "how much is a meal?"

Ask yourself : do you have high expectations, do you expect close to perfection?, is cost the primary factor or do you value quality more.

Veneers and crowns range from 400 euro per tooth to 2000 euro per tooth, the price difference usually represents the difference in quality, time taken and skills of the dentist and technician.

#15

Thanks for the response. Basically I have a tooth at the front that needs to be tweaked a little bit. It is not straight and is slightly encroaching on another tooth.
I'm not looking for a Hollywood makeover or anything. I would be happy with a straight tooth that matches the rest of my teeth.
Sorry about the vague nature of my OP. Like I said, I know next-to-nothing about these things.
I made an appointment with a local orthodontist. I got a recommendation from a family member.
I was unsure about all of those cosmetic dentists on the web. I thought I would be better off with an orthodontist?

ballsymchugh

you thought right!

davo10

I always recommend leaving teeth untouched if thay can be aligned satisfactorily by orthodontic means (by an orthodontist), veneers etc can always be done later if needs be

#15

davo10 wrote: »

I always recommend leaving teeth untouched if thay can be aligned satisfactorily by orthodontic means (by an orthodontist), veneers etc can always be done later if needs be

''By orthodontic means''

Are veneers considered to be cosmetic?

Tbh a brace would be my last preference. Are there other ways of aligning teeth?

Thanks for the response, it's great to get help from people who know about this stuff!

ballsymchugh

veneers are restorative/cosmetic. but they do involve destruction of healthy tooth structure, which if it can be avoided, should. (sorry fitz!)
you have to think long term too, veneers need to be replaced as they have a lifespan, so you may have to fork out again in the future. it's one thing that you'll find the cosmetic dental clinics tend not to make sooooo clear.
ortho is your best option if it's just a small movement of the upper teeth. however, the orthodontist can tell you better if it's worth it. it'd be my first port of call anyway.

#15

ballsymchugh wrote: »

ortho is your best option if it's just a small movement of the upper teeth. however, the orthodontist can tell you better if it's worth it. it'd be my first port of call anyway.

Thanks. Sorry for being a dunce about this but in this context, does ortho=braces?

ballsymchugh

yep. although the type of brace depends on the orthodontist. sorry for the shop speak!

#15

ballsymchugh wrote: »

yep. although the type of brace depends on the orthodontist. sorry for the shop speak!

That's fine, I'm grateful for the help!

Braces just seem so excessive for a minor adjustment. Ah well, I haven't even had the consultation yet!

curly from cork

just in the door and im in shock , apparently i need 8 or 9 crowns following TMJ work at a cost of between €800 / 900 per crown. all back teeth. does this price seem excesssive? gold something crowns were mentioned. no idea where im going to get € 8, 500...

dub02

Well Curly ya'd be in shock the other way around if you travel to Hungry, Turkey even Bangkok for dental work... unbelievable cheap compared to the armed robbers here:mad:

And ya get a little holiday out of it for yourself..everyones a winner

greenie

curly from cork wrote: »

just in the door and im in shock , apparently i need 8 or 9 crowns following TMJ work at a cost of between €800 / 900 per crown. all back teeth. does this price seem excesssive? gold something crowns were mentioned. no idea where im going to get € 8, 500...

Hi Curly, if you're going to find it hard to find that amount then I'd definitely check out prices in the north. I've been looking around myself and although it would be great to stay in the south, I just can't afford it. People talk about inferior service and work being done in the north but I have actually not heard any complaints. If hundreds and thousands of people have had work done there you'd think there'd be complaints and bad reviews all over the web
I would check out the north before hungary and Thailand though!

dub02

No names or links allowed dub02 infraction given.

Work mate went to this place in Bangkok...said it cost around 350e a crown!!

curly from cork

will have to give considersation to NI alright. dont fancy abroad , just in case i ran into probs after, i presume if i do go to NI my dentist wont be interested in checking me after. that would be a big draw back.

Bicycle

My recent crown cost €1,200. Back tooth. Gold rather than porcelain because apparently I have a rather strong bite

I'm glad I went locally. In between shaping and fitting, I had some pain and was worried that the temporary covering was coming loose. I was able to pop down to my dentist for a check and some reassurance.

And no, no root canal work involved.

But I was given my Med 2 and all the paperwork when I paid.

georgieporgy

greenie wrote: »

Hi Curly, if you're going to find it hard to find that amount then I'd definitely check out prices in the north. I've been looking around myself and although it would be great to stay in the south, I just can't afford it. People talk about inferior service and work being done in the north but I have actually not heard any complaints. If hundreds and thousands of people have had work done there you'd think there'd be complaints and bad reviews all over the web
I would check out the north before hungary and Thailand though!

I have had occasion to redo some large cases that were first done in the North. Trust me.... there certainly are complaints. You can also get excellent work in the North, but it won´t be cheap.

davo10

Dub02 and greenie, you've missed/ignored the important part of OP in your rush to advise cheap treatment, Curly has temporomandibular joint problems. I suspect that this coupled with the need for crowns has occurred as a result of loss of vertical dimension due to excessive teeth wear/possibly grinding. it is not just a case of guessing how high to make crowns to restore teeth to original dimensions and stop overstretching of muscles/tendons/ligaments in TMJ. If the dentist does guess, which he/she would have to do if it is done during a holiday, occasional trip North, the results would be far worse.

Treatment is likely to proceed as follows:
1. diagnostic wax up on plaster models of mouth to approximate original dimensions of teeth.
2. Bite raising appliance for 2-3 months at new occlusal vertical height so patient becomes accustomed to new jaw position when teeth in contact. The height of this is gleamed from the diagnostic wax up and adjustments are made through out the 2-3 months until comfortable position is found.
3. matrix for temporary crowns made from diagnostic wax up and then used to place temporary crowns at new vertical height after posterior teeth are prepared for crowns. I would leave temporary crowns on for at least 6 weeks and again adjust height up or down if necessary.
4. Permanent crowns are made at same height as temporary crowns and placed in position.

If this is done this way, the patient is used to the new jaw position before permanent crowns are placed so results are predictable and success is far more likely.

Gold crowns because less tooth has to be removed during preperation, this is important if teeth are already worn, also they will not fracture if patient grinds/clenches teeth. A night gaurd/splint will be essential after treatment is complete.

ballsymchugh

dub02, you said previously that you had treatment in beijing for braces. are you still comparing asia with western europe?? why don't you compare north korea when you get there. you'll buy a round at the yangakdo hotel for 2 euro max. you could've gotten the braces there for a fraction of the beijing price. not so sure about the crown and bridge work there myself though...

curly from cork

WOW Davo 10
thanks for all the info ( i think !! ) I suppose i hadnt realised the extent of all the work. i have had train tracks for 2 yrs and a night splint for the past 12 months . all for TMJ . my teeth are not and never were crooked. I guess really its the number of crowns that is the problem , in my head i was settling for 4 teeth to be done, 2 on each side. That amount i can swallow, not easily but i can manage it. 8 or 9 crowns is a whole diff league.

greenie

davo10 wrote: »

Dub02 and greenie, you've missed/ignored the important part of OP in your rush to advise cheap treatment

Hi davo, well I may have missed but I certainly wouldn't have said 'ignored' the important part of Curlys post. After reading the post I got the impression that the quoted price seemed a surprise and he wasn't too sure how he was going to come up with it. (My apologies Curly if you're female!)
As you can see in his post his questions/concerns are about the price which is why I talked about cheaper prices and the north option in my reply.:rolleyes:

greenie

georgieporgy wrote: »

I have had occasion to redo some large cases that were first done in the North. Trust me.... there certainly are complaints. You can also get excellent work in the North, but it won´t be cheap.

Hi georgie, you should get those people to write about it on here or anywhere. I tend to look for bad reviews more than good because I know great reviews can be easily written by Dentists themselves to advertise their services. I couldn't find any bad reviews for some of the popular places in the north yet there were so many complaints about the south aswell as Hungary etc. Even read something about a certain dentist in the north having to redo the work of several southern Dentists. I think your patients should definitely share their experiences, it would prove extremely helpful.
When people here enquire about work in the north a lot of posters are quick to dismiss the 'cheaper' option but nobody will listen when there are no pictures or nothing in writing to back it up. Unfortunately right now because of this, some people believe southern Dentists are just badmouthing northern ones to prevent them getting their business.
Does that make sense?:)

dub02

Yep...still comparing the prices within/around Asia and Ireland..purely because its the same treatment at a fraction of the price...Irish dentist's really bug the s*it outta me (personal rant)

Think i'll leave out the bridge/crown work in NK...gonna concentrate on my standup for Kim Il Jong's comedy club...wish me luck:D

ballsymchugh

dub02 wrote: »

Yep...still comparing the prices within/around Asia and Ireland..purely because its the same treatment at a fraction of the price...Irish dentist's really bug the s*it outta me (personal rant)

Think i'll leave out the bridge/crown work in NK...gonna concentrate on my standup for Kim Il Jong's comedy club...wish me luck:D

my point is, why stop at dentists?? EVERYTHING there is cheaper and for a reason. booze is a fraction of the price you'll pay in dublin, as with clothing etc. jaysis you can get a head massage there for 4 euro. and that's probably expensive.
enjoy the aftercare you get there though.

dub02

4 euro...they seen you coming:p

Full body massage in Beijing is only a 5iver...Anyways I doubt i'll be bringing back duty free...might get a mouth full of gold and sell roses outside Buskers...probably make an improvement on a mouth full of metal:(

ballsymchugh

dub02 wrote: »

4 euro...they seen you coming:p

Full body massage in Beijing is only a 5iver...Anyways I doubt i'll be bringing back duty free...might get a mouth full of gold and sell roses outside Buskers...probably make an improvement on a mouth full of metal:(

4 euro was in the hotel in dandong if you take that option coming out of north korea!! which you should. get yourself a kim il sung badge from the stall beside the broken bridge. anyway. back on topic!

georgieporgy

greenie wrote: »

Hi georgie, you should get those people to write about it on here or anywhere. I tend to look for bad reviews more than good because I know great reviews can be easily written by Dentists themselves to advertise their services. I couldn't find any bad reviews for some of the popular places in the north yet there were so many complaints about the south aswell as Hungary etc. Even read something about a certain dentist in the north having to redo the work of several southern Dentists. I think your patients should definitely share their experiences, it would prove extremely helpful.
When people here enquire about work in the north a lot of posters are quick to dismiss the 'cheaper' option but nobody will listen when there are no pictures or nothing in writing to back it up. Unfortunately right now because of this, some people believe southern Dentists are just badmouthing northern ones to prevent them getting their business.
Does that make sense?:)

I would love if they posted here. But I find most people are so shocked at their situation that their main concern now is trying to save their teeth rather than save the world. I´ve posted some examples (xrays) of bad work on this website if you want to search for them. If you do a careful search for dentists in the UK and NI you will find many very good ones (not cheap) and many cheap ones ( possibly just as good or maybe not??)
The same applies to dentists in the South - there are good and bad, and prices vary a lot.
If your main criteria is price, the North is your best bet.

greenie

georgieporgy wrote: »

I would love if they posted here. But I find most people are so shocked at their situation that their main concern now is trying to save their teeth rather than save the world. I´ve posted some examples (xrays) of bad work on this website if you want to search for them. If you do a careful search for dentists in the UK and NI you will find many very good ones (not cheap) and many cheap ones ( possibly just as good or maybe not??)
The same applies to dentists in the South - there are good and bad, and prices vary a lot.
If your main criteria is price, the North is your best bet.

Thanks georgie:) In my own case price is definitely a factor...it's mainly veneers I'm interested in and knowing they don't have a great shelf life I'd prefer to pay less. I've been looking at average priced places in the north (less than here but not too low to make me wonder if they're reputable) and I've narrowed it down to two. It's not urgent so I've plenty of time to do more homework on these two;)

davo10

greenie why are you willing to compromise on quality for something as important as your teeth?. Veneers do not have a shelf life nor a use by date etc, yes you have to take care of them but many people have them for 20 years or more. Remember you are going to have to look at these in a mirror possibly for the rest of your life and just as important, everyone you speak to/smile at is going to see them. Yes price is a factor but quality and aesthetics are more important by a long way. will you be happy if you have s##t cosmetic work done?, will the fact that they were cheap be any consolation to you when you hold your hand over your mouth when you smile?.

There is a fixation in Ireland that dentists are ripping people because prices are cheaper elsewhere, as a result of this people window shop for the lowest prices elsewhere. If I wanted to rip people off I would offer treatment at the same price as in NI, cut treatment time to the minimum and use the cheapest NHS lab I could find to make tic-tac veneers and crowns confident in the knowledge that I would be unlikely to see anyone who travelled a couple of hours for treatment again in the future if they encountered problems. I would offer no gaurentee and because the work is cheap the patient has lower expectations than if they were paying a premium for treatment. This is not for me though.

When considering veneers, think:
1. what are my expectations for treatment?, do i want the fantastic, realistic veneers which no one will know are lab-made and with which i can smile with the utmost confidence but which will also come at a price?. Do I want more reasonably priced veneers and am i willing to compromise a bit on cosmetics?. Do I want the cheapest veneers I can fit and I'll accept my medicine if they look bad?.
2. What type of veneers do I want, eg porcelain, procera, lava. The more expensive veneers have better, more life-like ceramics with graduated color changes, the cheaper ones are monochromatic and look false as soon as you open your mouth.
3. The dentist. Who have my friends had their crowns/veneers done by?, are they good?, not are they cheap?. Which dentist in your vicinity has a good reputation for this type of work?
4. Ask to be shown examples of their work. All dentists who are good at this type of work take photos to email to lab and most will take post op photos. Do not rely on website boasts of photos, these can be photoshopped or bought off an american dental photo library.
5. All dentists in Ireland are acutely aware that you are paying more here for your treatment, we appreciate that you can drive up the road and get it for less, as a result we must strive to provide the best treatments we can.

An American professor once told me that he has a sign in his waiting room that read "Remember the bitter taste of low quality remains long after the sweet taste of low prices has gone"

btkm8unsl0w5r4

davo10 wrote: »

"Remember the bitter taste of low quality remains long after the sweet taste of low prices has gone"

Thats fantastic, I am going to use that one.

Great post Davo10 I agree 100%. People ring up my office all the time asking how much is a crown or implant or veneer is. This makes an assumption that every crown, implant or veneer is the same. I always ask how much is a car or a meal? The obvious answer is that it depends on how good a car you want or who you get to cook the meal and the quality of the ingredients.

My advice with these elective aesthetic treatments is if you cant afford to get it done by someone really good don't get it done at all. Cutting on your teeth is not reversible so you could end up significantly worse off after a few years than if you do nothing.

ballsymchugh

excellent post davo.

fitz, you could try and use kerry katona's line when she was asked about what she thought of the rumours that bryan mcfadden was sleeping about with some dancers.. 'why have a big mac away when you can have steak at home'

dear God, did i just type that? oh nooooo

greenie

Ok Davo I don't believe I'm compromising on quality by selecting a dental practice in the north with an excellent reputation and price only slightly lower than here. I've spent time looking into places and gathering information on every clinic that was on my list. Yes I have even read up on materials used and surprisingly quiet a few use the same materials as dentists here! ( that was a surprise!) This will not be a rushed procedure and your predictions/threats of **** cometic work and mouth covering will come to nothing.
I understand that you are proud of your work but I just don't get why you are so quick to put every single dentist outside of the south into one category. There's a whole world outside Davo where there are, believe it or not, capable, honest, hardworking reputable, highly skilled dentists who do not ruin peoples lives leaving them forever unable to smile.
And I apologise for my incorrect assuption of the shelf life of veneers. A series of statements from dentists in the South, the South Davo, led me to this conclusion. My own dentist told me 5-6 years...and with the highest rates going...well you'd think he would've been more honest after all the higher the price the better the quality right?
Wrong.
After once paying into the thousands here I am again, this time unwilling and unable to pay as much. So Davo I've made a choice based on experience, a lot of info gathered and a lot of ex patients spoken to and your 'horror' stories of unrepairable teeth backed up with no visual evidence cannot sway me.
I get what you are trying to do but you cannot persuade every single person not to go for a different option by just slandering the work of hundreds of dentists simply because they are cheaper than you. If you really want to scare people then gather evidence. Ask your ' north visited ' patients if you can take pictures of their teeth and post them here. Get names of the dentists involved in that work and post them here. I promise you people will listen.
That is a great quote though:)

btkm8unsl0w5r4

greenie wrote: »

Ok Davo I don't believe I'm compromising on quality by selecting a dental practice in the north with an excellent reputation and price only slightly lower than here.

Whats the point then in going up north apart from massive inconvenience and time off work? There a a dozen prosthodontists in Dublin with specialist training in all types of crown, bridge, implant and veneer cases.

greenie

Fisher Delicious Aerosol wrote: »

Whats the point then in going up north apart from massive inconvenience and time off work? There a a dozen prosthodontists in Dublin with specialist training in all types of crown, bridge, implant and veneer cases.

On the contrary, it is no inconvenience to me and while the prices per unit are only slightly lower than here I will make a much needed saving overall. I am not running straight to the north, I spent a lot of time shopping around Dublin before deciding what suited my needs best. The materials used will be the same as top Dentists here in Dublin have been recommending.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

If you are happy off you go I hope it all goes well.

All dentists around the world use roughly the same materials (except the rubbish alloy used in cheap eastern European or Chinese dental work), that is no an assurance or quality ( Quick guess here but zirconia or procera copings are the same everywhere). These are hand made prosthesis, its who makes them that matters and the attention to detail of the dentist (attention to detail = lots of time). I can use the same paint as Picasso but my painting are not half as good.

greenie

Thanks fitz:)

ballsymchugh

Qdays.com wrote: »

I have extracted a price per unit for crowns and veneers. crowns starting with 460 Eur and porcelain veneers starting with 500 Eur. You can also find out more about pretty much everything you're interested in from www.qdays.com

hiya sham. what's your aftercare like?? if a temp falls off, can we call in and have it replaced just by phoning ahead?

georgieporgy

here is an example of veneers I did a little while ago. (patient had a peg shaped lateral on one side and a congenitally missing lateral on the other side). The fee was 1100euro per veneer. I would expect them to last 15-30 years. (just today I examined a lady who had some nice veneers placed in 1985 and they still looked great)

can anybody guess how many veneers were done in this case? (dentists need not reply )

ballsymchugh

georgieporgy wrote: »

can anybody guess how many veneers were done in this case? (dentists need not reply )

that's cool, i've zoomed in as much as i can and still unsure!! ya coulda cleaned them before taking the before photo too!!

tigerlilly30

Hi there, i think dentists here r a total rip off... i recently had 3 root canals done that not so bad but to have to pay an additional E200 to b sedated was the biggest laugh. I'm a very nervous patient so have to pay that even for a cleaning!!!:mad: This is crazy.. what are we expected to live on if we have to pay such scandalous amounts of money to be pain free?????? and my dentist told me i needed a crown at the cost of E950. so i told him an extraction was the only way 2 go 4 me... eventually i got my root canal treatment done on medical card free as the front 6 teeth upper and lower are apparently free anyway and instead of crowns on my front teeth i got white fillings which are i must say more natural looking than any veneers! my reccommendations are loose ur job, get medical card n get ur treatment at discount prices except of course sedation should u need it.... although u cud also go to any dental teaching hospital as public patient and get discount that way

ballsymchugh

tigerlilly30 wrote: »

Hi there, i think dentists here r a total rip off... i recently had 3 root canals done that not so bad but to have to pay an additional E200 to b sedated was the biggest laugh. I'm a very nervous patient so have to pay that even for a cleaning!!!:mad: This is crazy.. what are we expected to live on if we have to pay such scandalous amounts of money to be pain free?????? and my dentist told me i needed a crown at the cost of E950. so i told him an extraction was the only way 2 go 4 me... eventually i got my root canal treatment done on medical card free as the front 6 teeth upper and lower are apparently free anyway and instead of crowns on my front teeth i got white fillings which are i must say more natural looking than any veneers! my reccommendations are loose ur job, get medical card n get ur treatment at discount prices except of course sedation should u need it.... although u cud also go to any dental teaching hospital as public patient and get discount that way

a toothbrush costs about 3 euro these days. change it every 6 months or so and that's 6 euro per year. use it properly and it beats the hell out of paying for dental treatment. or like you say, you can join the race to the bottom...

davo10

tigerlilly, a filling takes approximately 20 mins to do, if you have sedation you have to be be monitered before, during and after, that means more clinical time and more cost. Sedation is something you requested, it is not routine, most people do not need it so it is a luxury, if you do not want to pay for it, don't have it.
Medical card treatment covers the front teeth for root treatment, not prosthodontic work (crowns, veneers etc), composites look fantastic when they are placed but as most of the posters here will tell you, after a couple of years they do discolour and need replacement.

Frank_Leach

Right..this seems to be the most frequented thread so i'll start here..
And, it is relevant to the o.p.....here goes..
Today, i had a root canal done, and two small fillings, all in one sitting. The dentist, located in the north city centre, seemed very professional and very particular. So much so, that he took pictures and x rays of the teeth at each process point-before-during-after.

The teeth looked great, and i was happy. Just as we were looking at the pictures, he almost casually mentioned..."now, that root canal wont last too long and you will need a crown on that tooth at some stage"

Horror..i asked, how much for the crown? A thousand euro, he replied, but we wont worry about that for now...

My thoughts(and i know nothing about dentistry) are...why the hell bother doing the root canal in the first place if it needs a crown for sure?
Or is it a case that the root canal must be done anyway to save whats left of the tooth?
If so..then why fill the bloody thing, why not just repair the root and then put the crown /cap on? I feel a bit like i will be paying twice for the same tooth...does this make sense to anyone?

just felt pissed off leaving his office...actually, i felt like he had lined me up for a shearing....you can only skin a sheep once etc etc..

If i am wrong, and this is the natural process, thats fair enough. But surely it makes sense, to do the root canal, and go straight onto a new crown/cap if the tooth is that badly damaged that a massive filling will not last?

tigerlilly30

ballsymchugh wrote: »

a toothbrush costs about 3 euro these days. change it every 6 months or so and that's 6 euro per year. use it properly and it beats the hell out of paying for dental treatment. or like you say, you can join the race to the bottom...

AH now now... calm dwn there!! as result of an accident last year i had 4 teeth very badly damaged, which therefore needed root canal and crown/ extraction.... not misuse or as u put it (non-use) of a toothbrush which yes i do posess 1 and use it three times a day, every day.... :D

res ipsa

georgieporgy wrote: »

here is an example of veneers I did a little while ago. (patient had a peg shaped lateral on one side and a congenitally missing lateral on the other side). The fee was 1100euro per veneer. I would expect them to last 15-30 years. (just today I examined a lady who had some nice veneers placed in 1985 and they still looked great)

can anybody guess how many veneers were done in this case? (dentists need not reply )

Nice work GP.

res ipsa

Frank_Leach wrote: »

Right..this seems to be the most frequented thread so i'll start here..
And, it is relevant to the o.p.....here goes..
Today, i had a root canal done, and two small fillings, all in one sitting. The dentist, located in the north city centre, seemed very professional and very particular. So much so, that he took pictures and x rays of the teeth at each process point-before-during-after.

The teeth looked great, and i was happy. Just as we were looking at the pictures, he almost casually mentioned..."now, that root canal wont last too long and you will need a crown on that tooth at some stage"

Horror..i asked, how much for the crown? A thousand euro, he replied, but we wont worry about that for now...

My thoughts(and i know nothing about dentistry) are...why the hell bother doing the root canal in the first place if it needs a crown for sure?
Or is it a case that the root canal must be done anyway to save whats left of the tooth?
If so..then why fill the bloody thing, why not just repair the root and then put the crown /cap on? I feel a bit like i will be paying twice for the same tooth...does this make sense to anyone?

just felt pissed off leaving his office...actually, i felt like he had lined me up for a shearing....you can only skin a sheep once etc etc..

If i am wrong, and this is the natural process, thats fair enough. But surely it makes sense, to do the root canal, and go straight onto a new crown/cap if the tooth is that badly damaged that a massive filling will not last?

Sounds like a lowballer to me
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-Ball
Patients have a right to informed consent before being operated on, or as you put it sheared like a sheep.

Frank_Leach

res ipsa wrote: »

Sounds like a lowballer to me
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-Ball
Patients have a right to informed consent before being operated on, or as you put it sheared like a sheep.

thanks res...do you mind me asking, have you experience in this area?
Is this normal practise?

I am due to return to the guy to do some more work, but the manner he used has put me off...and please, any other feedback from anyone who may be in the know on these things is greatly appreciated..

georgieporgy

Frank I think the problem is the way the dentist presented the treatment plan to you. Assuming it was your wish to save the tooth, root canal was necessary in the first instance, and then the broken down tooth needed to be repaired. The repair can either be a filling(cheap) or a crown (expensive). A crown is not essential but it is highly recommended. Some dentists like to wait a few months. others say 'come back sometime and have it crowned'.
I tend to tell my clients when a rootcanal is needed in a back tooth, that it should be crowned also, and that the best time to crown it is right away after the root canal, and the only reason for a delay is usually a financial one. Dentists are often afraid to recommend expensive work as they are sensitive to "just doing it for the money" accusations.

Frank_Leach

georgieporgy wrote: »

Frank I think the problem is the way the dentist presented the treatment plan to you. Assuming it was your wish to save the tooth, root canal was necessary in the first instance, and then the broken down tooth needed to be repaired. The repair can either be a filling(cheap) or a crown (expensive). A crown is not essential but it is highly recommended. Some dentists like to wait a few months. others say 'come back sometime and have it crowned'.
I tend to tell my clients when a rootcanal is needed in a back tooth, that it should be crowned also, and that the best time to crown it is right away after the root canal, and the only reason for a delay is usually a financial one. Dentists are often afraid to recommend expensive work as the sensitive to "just doing it for the money" accusations.

Thanks..i understand what you mean. And really, he knew money was a big issue for me-i haggled with him on overall cost of the work he was doing anyway, which was a root canal and 5 fillings. Got him down to 1000, i am told that was a decent price for all the work he is doing.
while i am a little annoyed he did not tell me about the inevitable crown, i understand now that he didnt have to say it, and i dont need it this instant either.
So all's good...thanks for the feedback

garmingirl

Hi,
Sorry I know this thread is a bit old but have looked through lots of the threads and this seems the most relevant. I got a rootcanal up north last year, my own dentist (in Dublin) told me in December that I needed a new filling in this and would cost €250. The tooth has now chipped. Dentist has quoted me €1250 for crown or else €200 for this "new" filling and the crown at a later date. I have been quoted €380 in newry for the crown. I have read posts saying how it can't be compared North and South and quality of work etc however how do I know the quality of my dentist work in Dublin? I am booked in for a half hr app for stage 1 of the crown both north and south and have been advised i will need to come back 2 weeks later. I would be interested in any advise regarding the price quoted in Dublin and whether this is the norm, I would happily take 2 days of work and travel to Newry for a saving of nearly €900 but also would give my business to a local dentist if i got a more reasonable quote. My dentist in Dublin is not a specialist as far as I know. Thanks.

georgieporgy

You seem to have found the most expensive dentist in Dublin and the cheapest one in Northern Ireland.

It should be easy to phone around a few dentists for prices. Do you need a post/core as well? and is this included in the above quotes? What kind of lab is manufacturing the crown?

Have you ever seen a bad crown (or a picture of one)? Some good pics have been posted lately.