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Secondary jobs market

  • 27-01-2010 6:59pm
    #1
    mat59
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3 ✭


    Hello all.

    My wife and I are considering a move from the south east of England to Ireland in a few years time. My wife is from Ireland (Meath) and I'm from South Wales. We understand that we will have to pass some exams and sort out our paperwork before we can gain employment in an Irish school. I was just wondering what the state of the jobs market is for secondary teachers. I haven't heard it's good!

    I'm a Business teacher (by degree and and teaching qualification) although I have lots of experience of teaching IT. My wife is a Maths teacher (degree in engineering, maths teaching qualification). We both have about seven years experience and have pretty good CV's for the UK.

    Any thoughts would be welcomed.

    Cheers,

    Matt


Comments

  • #2
    niall3r
    Closed Accounts Posts: 133 ✭✭niall3r


    Well you will need to do the exam in history of education but its meant to be relatively easy so thats no harm.

    Its interesting to hear of UK teachers wanting to move to Ireland because ALOT of Irish teachers, especially NQT's, are moving over to the UK because the job prospects are so bleak over here.

    Maths isnt one of the oversaturated subjects but business very much is.

    That said you have lots of experience and the jobs have to go to somebody. Im not sure if I would leave a secure job for the prospects of getting another one so maybe make sure to line things up before leaving.

    I can understand why you'd prefer to teach here (pay/holidays etc) so best of luck with it!


  • #3
    mat59
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3 ✭mat59


    niall3r wrote: »
    Well you will need to do the exam in history of education but its meant to be relatively easy so thats no harm.

    Its interesting to hear of UK teachers wanting to move to Ireland because ALOT of Irish teachers, especially NQT's, are moving over to the UK because the job prospects are so bleak over here.

    Maths isnt one of the oversaturated subjects but business very much is.

    That said you have lots of experience and the jobs have to go to somebody. Im not sure if I would leave a secure job for the prospects of getting another one so maybe make sure to line things up before leaving.

    I can understand why you'd prefer to teach here (pay/holidays etc) so best of luck with it!


    Many thanks for that. Actually more encouragin than I thought it would be! I can do something other than teaching if I have to if she can get a job teaching maths.

    My degree is in business but i'm able to teach IT and have lots of experience. Am I allowed to teach IT? Does this increase my chances?

    Anyone else like to offer any advice?

    Thanks,

    Matt


  • #4
    implausible
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,937 ✭✭✭implausible


    mat59 wrote: »
    My degree is in business but i'm able to teach IT and have lots of experience. Am I allowed to teach IT? Does this increase my chances?

    The Teaching Council will only recognise the subjects that you've taken to degree level. However, once you get into a school, there's a good chance that you might get some IT hours.


  • #5
    wingnut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,942 ✭✭✭wingnut


    Hello Mat59, I see you are from South Wales, I did my teacher training in Swansea and am teaching in Ireland (IT). IT is not a curricular subject here, so most of the hours would be given to teachers in subjects such as business. However, as it is not a curricular subject there is not a great demand for teachers, your best bet would be a big school where TYs etc have IT hours.

    You wife would be in trouble when it comes to register with the teaching council here. They are very insistent that you have a teaching subject as a primary degree at honors level. At worst they will ask her to do a maths degree, at best make up some modules to that equivalent. *under the EU directive if you guys are registered with the TC in Eng/Scot/Wales they have to give you 2 years to make up any deficiencies.

    As previous posters has said the jobs market is saturated here. While in the UK you will generally get a job on full hours, over here many teachers starting off will get a set number of hours out of 22 so your pay is /22. However the pay here is much better than UK so it can balance out.


  • #6
    spurious
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,315 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Just a quick note to point out that IT is examined in the Applied Leaving Certificate as one of the specialisms, but as others have stated there would not be positions advertised as exclusively IT.


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  • #7
    mat59
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3 ✭mat59


    wingnut wrote: »
    Hello Mat59, I see you are from South Wales, I did my teacher training in Swansea and am teaching in Ireland (IT). IT is not a curricular subject here, so most of the hours would be given to teachers in subjects such as business. However, as it is not a curricular subject there is not a great demand for teachers, your best bet would be a big school where TYs etc have IT hours.

    You wife would be in trouble when it comes to register with the teaching council here. They are very insistent that you have a teaching subject as a primary degree at honors level. At worst they will ask her to do a maths degree, at best make up some modules to that equivalent. *under the EU directive if you guys are registered with the TC in Eng/Scot/Wales they have to give you 2 years to make up any deficiencies.

    As previous posters has said the jobs market is saturated here. While in the UK you will generally get a job on full hours, over here many teachers starting off will get a set number of hours out of 22 so your pay is /22. However the pay here is much better than UK so it can balance out.

    Hi Wingnut. I'm from Swansea and studied the PGCE in what is now called Swansea Metropolitan Uni. I'll be heading back that way if moving to Ireland doesn't work out. Jobs market isn't great there either though!

    A bit strange that my wife may not be able to teach maths due to her non-specialist degree. She applied to do a teacher training course in Ireland before coming over to Swansea to do the course. She didn't have any problems when applying for the training in Ireland but didn't get a place due to them running a lottery system for places.


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