New gay sauna in Cork

T.J

Hi Lads. I was at the new gay sauna at 40 McCurtin Street yesterday. I was very impressed with it, very clean it was. You get your towel and a pair slippers at the door, all for 15 euro. They are opened from 2pm to 2am 7 days. Give it a go. T.J

ANXIOUS

What is the difference between a gay sauna and a straight sauna?

T.J

Men only in this one in cork. Gay sauna

ANXIOUS

Thats a bit sexist isn't it? Why would it be men only? Sorry if I come across niave.

Have you any connections with the sauna? Just wondering cause you only registered to post about it.

Iwasfrozen

ANXIOUS wrote: »

Thats a bit sexist isn't it? Why would it be men only? Sorry if I come across niave.

Have you any connections with the sauna? Just wondering cause you only registered to post about it.

You are a bit niave, Gay sauna is another word for Gay sex house.

ANXIOUS

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

You are a bit niave, Gay sauna is another word for Gay sex house.

Are you actually serious? Does that type of thing go on in Ireland? What's wrong with doing that sort of thing in the privacy of their own home? Never mind the hygine issue.

T.J

No I have nothing to do with the sauna, I just want more people there so I can have more fun.

partyguinness

Was it busy?

T.J

no not at all. there was only five in there but it was good

partyguinness

What types? hairy 50 yr olds or what?

Iwasfrozen

ANXIOUS wrote: »

Are you actually serious?

Yes.

ANXIOUS wrote: »

Does that type of thing go on in Ireland?

Yes.

ANXIOUS wrote: »

What's wrong with doing that sort of thing in the privacy of their own home?

Don't ask me, I've never been to one. But I think the main attraction is not having to use gaydar to simply find another gay man to have sex with.

ANXIOUS wrote: »

Never mind the hygine issue.

Yeah most of them a quite dirty and if anybody is going to one make sure you wear condoms because STI's in those places are rife.

ANXIOUS

T.J wrote: »

No I have nothing to do with the sauna, I just want more people there so I can have more fun.

I can't believe that just behaviour actually happens in the gay community. I thought it was just a negative sterotype. Is this type of thing not one if the main reasons people think aids spread so rapidly? Reminds me of something out of phillidelphia. Do other gay people condone this?

mickol

Thats disgusting .....Unhygenic and vile.

partyguinness

ANXIOUS wrote: »

I can't believe that just behaviour actually happens in the gay community. I thought it was just a negative sterotype. Is this type of thing not one if the main reasons people think aids spread so rapidly? Reminds me of something out of phillidelphia. Do other gay people condone this?

Christ ANXIOUS..what's your problem?

Are you sure you in the right forum? You made you point...get over it and now take your indignation elsewhere. Stick to watching Bambi in future.

Iwasfrozen

ANXIOUS wrote: »

Do other gay people condone this?

Alot of gay people do condemn it but in the end they see it as a matter of leaving each to their own. The bottom line is tough, that if you use these bathouses and get an STI then it is your own fault for putting yourself at risk.

T.J

Mickol you don't know what your missing boy.

ANXIOUS

I haven't got a problem, I'm just trying to understand why men would put themselves in the situation where by they are having sex with multipule strangers.

This could be a reason why some gay people don't feel acepted by other straight people.

mickol

I think theres double standards involved in this ....On the one hand the Gay community want equal status in everything from marriage to adoption but on the other hand want to engage in this seedy , hedonistic and risky (healthwise ) business. Just for the record is there a heterosexual sauna in cork where you pay 15.00 in get a pair of slippers and a blow job ???....i doubt it

Or is that Called Sidetrax

mickol

T.J wrote: »

Mickol you don't know what your missing boy.

I'll have to take your word for that TJ :rolleyes:

T.J

ok very good

partyguinness

ANXIOUS wrote: »

I haven't got a problem, I'm just trying to understand why men would put themselves in the situation where by they are having sex with multipule strangers.

This could be a reason why some gay people don't feel acepted by other straight people.

If that's what goes on there....I'll have to take your word for it...;)

You seem to know alot about them..bad exxperience?

partyguinness

mickol wrote: »

I think theres double standards involved in this ....On the one hand the Gay community want equal status in everything from marriage to adoption but on the other hand want to engage in this seedy , hedonistic and risky (healthwise ) business. Just for the record is there a heterosexual sauna in cork where you pay 15.00 in get a pair of slippers and a blow job ???....i doubt it

Or is that Called Sidetrax

There are plenty of straight/heteosexual people who engage in seedy, hedonistic and risky behaviour every day of the week in brothels, nightclubs etc.

STI and AIDS rates are growing faster in the hetrosexual community than the homosexual one.

You are disguising your own homophobia by pretending to be outraged by Gay saunas.

Live and let live if that's what people want to do.

T.J

partyguinness wrote: »

There are plenty of straight/heteosexual people who engage in seedy, hedonistic and risky behaviour every day of the week in brothels, nightclubs etc.

STI and AIDS rates are growing faster in the hetrosexual community than the homosexual one.

You are disguising your own homophobia by pretending to be outraged by Gay saunas.

Live and let live if that's what people want to do.

Good on you Boy

ANXIOUS

partyguinness wrote: »

If that's what goes on there....I'll have to take your word for it...;)

You seem to know alot about them..bad exxperience?

Come on no need to engage in that, you are trying to drag this into a name calling thread imo.

However i do feel that this would alter my opionion on gay couples adopting kids. I do not feel that this would be the correct environment to raise a child. I suppose that depends on how previlant it is in that society.

You may say that hetro couples cheat, however i feel that society also looks down upon this. I know no place hetro couples can go that basically is just a big orgy, and for it to be condoned by the community.

Looking forward to reading replies not insults.

T.J

ANXIOUS wrote: »

Come on no need to engage in that, you are trying to drag this into a name calling thread imo.

However i do feel that this would alter my opionion on gay couples adopting kids. I do not feel that this would be the correct environment to raise a child. I suppose that depends on how previlant it is in that society.

You may say that hetro couples cheat, however i feel that society also looks down upon this. I know no place hetro couples can go that basically is just a big orgy, and for it to be condoned by the community.

Looking forward to reading replies not insults.

He is only speaking his mind.

ANXIOUS

T.J wrote: »

He is only speaking his mind.

Not when he is trying to refer that i've had a bad experience in such saunas, he is merely trying to insult me and for me to become defensive.

mickol

partyguinness wrote: »

There are plenty of straight/heteosexual people who engage in seedy, hedonistic and risky behaviour every day of the week in brothels, nightclubs etc.

STI and AIDS rates are growing faster in the hetrosexual community than the homosexual one.

You are disguising your own homophobia by pretending to be outraged by Gay saunas.

Live and let live if that's what people want to do.

I fully appreciate that people of all ilks engage in seedy behaviour partyguinness.....does that make it right. I dont see a problem with nightclubs be they gay or straight . What i do have a problem with is paying 15.00 a head to go into some filthy kip with a load of men pulling the knobs off themselves and each other.

partyguinness

ANXIOUS wrote: »

Come on no need to engage in that, you are trying to drag this into a name calling thread imo.

However i do feel that this would alter my opionion on gay couples adopting kids. I do not feel that this would be the correct environment to raise a child. I suppose that depends on how previlant it is in that society.

You may say that hetro couples cheat, however i feel that society also looks down upon this. I know no place hetro couples can go that basically is just a big orgy, and for it to be condoned by the community.

Looking forward to reading replies not insults.

Firstly, where have I called you names or insulted you?

Secondly, you are implying by your posts that all homosexuals engage in lewd activities in gay saunas.

I am willing to bet that the vast majority of homosexuals have not been to a gay sauna. Of course we have no stats to back that up but even a straw poll would confrim this IMO.

Thirdly, if there was a place for heterosexual couples to go, would you be okay with that then?

Is it that fact that there isnt such a place is bothering you? This apparent double standard?

I said nothing about hetero couples cheating..that is nothing to do with this point.

partyguinness

mickol wrote: »

I fully appreciate that people of all ilks engage in seedy behaviour partyguinness.....does that make it right. I dont see a problem with nightclubs be they gay or straight . What i do have a problem with is paying 15.00 a head to go into some filthy kip with a load of men pulling the knobs off themselves and each other.

Very simple...dont go there...I am not saying its right or wrong either but thats the way it is.

And who are you to say what is and is not "right". You dont agree with it. Fine.

I have a problem with religion and abortion but you know thats what some people are into...let them at it.

AssaultedPeanut

ANXIOUS wrote: »

Come on no need to engage in that, you are trying to drag this into a name calling thread imo.

However i do feel that this would alter my opionion on gay couples adopting kids. I do not feel that this would be the correct environment to raise a child. I suppose that depends on how previlant it is in that society.

You may say that hetro couples cheat, however i feel that society also looks down upon this. I know no place hetro couples can go that basically is just a big orgy, and for it to be condoned by the community.

Looking forward to reading replies not insults.

Although I agree that the sauna thing is a bit on the seedy side, I have to question why you’re bringing gay adoption in to the equation?

Seedy behaviour occurs in society, be you heterosexual, homosexual, bi....etc if a straight man goes to a prostitute/brothel, does that mean that people should consider not allowing straight people to adopt kids? Because of the actions of a few?

Criticise the individual(s) not the entire “community” because of the choices made by a few individuals within that community.

MicraBoy

ANXIOUS wrote: »

Come on no need to engage in that, you are trying to drag this into a name calling thread imo.

However i do feel that this would alter my opionion on gay couples adopting kids. I do not feel that this would be the correct environment to raise a child. I suppose that depends on how previlant it is in that society.

You may say that hetro couples cheat, however i feel that society also looks down upon this. I know no place hetro couples can go that basically is just a big orgy, and for it to be condoned by the community.

Looking forward to reading replies not insults.

Why have you made the assumption that the gays in commited realationships looking to adopt kids are the same gays that go to saunas? That's like assuming that single straight men are the ones in hetero world that want to adopt.

ANXIOUS

partyguinness wrote: »

Firstly, where have I called you names or insulted you?

You've insulted me by insinuating that i've had a bad experience in a sauna.

partyguinness wrote: »

Secondly, you are implying by your posts that all homosexuals engage in lewd activities in gay saunas.

ANXIOUS wrote: »

However i do feel that this would alter my opionion on gay couples adopting kids. I do not feel that this would be the correct environment to raise a child. I suppose that depends on how previlant it is in that society.

partyguinness wrote: »

Thirdly, if there was a place for heterosexual couples to go, would you be okay with that then?

Is it that fact that there isnt such a place is bothering you? This apparent double standard?

No, it doesnt bother me taht their isnt a place like this for hetro people. Frankly because i'm repulised by it. I however do find that this is another example of some in the gay community being very "in your face"

ANXIOUS

MicraBoy wrote: »

Why have you made the assumption that the gays in commited realationships looking to adopt kids are the same gays that go to saunas? That's like assuming that single straight men are the ones the ones in hetero world that want to adopt.

This is my third time outlining that, my view would change depending on how previlant it was.

Boston

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Yeah most of them a quite dirty and if anybody is going to one make sure you wear condoms because STI's in those places are rife.

This is based on what? Anyone I've seen recount experience of the boilerhous alway mention how surprisingly clean the place is.

You suggest that anyone concerned about their sexual health should wear a condom while at a sauna. Anyone concerned with their sexual health wouldn't go near one. I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you trust your life to a tine piece of latex, you're going to come up short sooner or later. Given that the boilerhouse in Dublin largely caters to the after drinks grouping, the usefulness of condoms is pretty low.

mickol wrote: »

I think theres double standards involved in this ....On the one hand the Gay community want equal status in everything from marriage to adoption but on the other hand want to engage in this seedy , hedonistic and risky (healthwise ) business. Just for the record is there a heterosexual sauna in cork where you pay 15.00 in get a pair of slippers and a blow job ???....i doubt it

On one hand the hetrosexual community wants equal status in everything from marriage to adoption but on the other hand want when I walk past brothers on parnel street, lession street, temple bar and Capel street I see hetrosexual males with prositutes. I see people shagging on the street in temple bar, I see people attacking each other on oconnell street, I see open air drug dealing on abby steet, I see homeless people begging on westland row and every other bridge. I think the only answer is extreminate the human race.

ANXIOUS wrote: »

You've insulted me by insinuating that i've had a bad experience in a sauna.

Would you feel better if he insinuated you had a good time?

ANXIOUS

I'd prefer if he had the respect to not talk about my sex life. The same respect I've afforded him.

Iwasfrozen

Boston wrote: »

This is based on what? Anyone I've seen recount experience of the boilerhous alway mention how surprisingly clean the place is.

Obviously I would suggest not going near the place but if someone was to go to the boiler house are you saying suggesting he wear a condom is bad advice ?

MicraBoy

ANXIOUS wrote: »

This is my third time outlining that, my view would change depending on how previlant it was.

What has prevalence got to do with it? Adoption criteria should be based on the suitability of a couple or individual for caring for a child, not whether lots of people who share the same sexuality as them are into no strings sex.

BanzaiBk

Walked past this place today. Is it the same unit that used to have the Buddha statue in it, or is it a different one? Tbh I thought it was the same place but I guess they are separate units? Very innocuous looking all the same, my friend pointed it out to me. Doubt it's something the heteros are aware of :pac:

Aard

ANXIOUS wrote: »

Frankly because i'm repulised by it. I however do find that this is another example of some in the gay community being very "in your face"

Are you fucking serious? "In your face"? You didn't even know such places existed until today, apparently.

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Obviously I would suggest not going near the place but if someone was to go to the boiler house are you saying suggesting he wear a condom is bad advice ?

Pretty sure he was talking about the cleanliness of the interior of the building, not its clientèle.

Iwasfrozen

Aard wrote: »

Pretty sure he was talking about the cleanliness of the interior of the building, not its clientèle.

Oh right... My bad.

r3nm0r3RASCAL

mickol wrote: »

I fully appreciate that people of all ilks engage in seedy behaviour partyguinness.....does that make it right. I dont see a problem with nightclubs be they gay or straight . What i do have a problem with is paying 15.00 a head to go into some filthy kip with a load of men pulling the knobs off themselves and each other.

Pictures or GTFO!!!!!!

Tricity Bendix

ANXIOUS wrote: »

I do not feel that this would be the correct environment to raise a child.

lol.

I doubt people bring their kids along.

eth0_

ANXIOUS wrote: »

I'd prefer if he had the respect to not talk about my sex life. The same respect I've afforded him.

TBH I don't think you've afforded an ounce of respect to anyone on this forum.

I'm straight and I have wondered before why there are no heterosexual saunas. But...whatever.

sherdydan

i think i see what anxious has the problem with, which, if im right, i feel the same. just his wording has been a bit focused on the gay side of it all.

what I feel is that ANY facillity which is basically a big sex-house to facillitate orgies between people whether there sexual orientation be hetero-sexual, homo-sexual or bi-sexual, is plain and simply immoral. the sexuality of these people, has no bearing on it whatsoever. I just think its terrible that such a place which facilitates a load of people to pay 15 quid in to **** around with countless others, is plain and simply wrong!

shay_562

ANXIOUS wrote: »

I'd prefer if he had the respect to not talk about my sex life. The same respect I've afforded him.

You've implicitly talked about his sex life, and the sex life of all gay people, by suggesting that the decision of whether or not all gay people should be allowed to adopt kids should rest on the sexual practices of some gay people. 'Prevalence' shouldn't matter - if 99% of gay people went to saunas on a regular basis and there were one gay couple in the country that didn't, then that couple should be given the same right to apply for adoption as any straight couple. To imply that, simply by virtue of sharing a sexuality with sauna users, I have even the slightest thing to do with them, you're insulting me and implying that my sex life is similarly seedy by association.

Boston

Hmm, I don't really see why it would be a criteria for deciding if someone is suitable to be a parent. It's not illegal, it's not exploitive and the morality of it is subjective. Sexual kinks / defiances from the norm, don't really effect a person ability to be a parent. Its risky behaviour, but so is being a garda or a solider. If someone has some deep seeded emotion or metal problems which result in them going to gay sauna's that will show through in the screening process. I've know people who went simply because they where young, curious and stupid.

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Obviously I would suggest not going near the place but if someone was to go to the boiler house are you saying suggesting he wear a condom is bad advice ?

As Aard pointed out, it was about the cleanliness. Not the people.

To the point you raised, I'm not saying people who go to sauna's should have unprotected sex, I'm saying condoms aren't something you should exclusively rely upon to maintain you sexual health. selectiveness in who you have sex with is extremely important, and in some scenarios be far far more effective then the use of condoms.

As an aside, unprotected HIV+ sex parties are organised by groups who frequent the likes of the boilerhouse. I can imagine few things more retarded.

kisaragi

sherdydan wrote: »

i think i see what anxious has the problem with, which, if im right, i feel the same. just his wording has been a bit focused on the gay side of it all.

what I feel is that ANY facillity which is basically a big sex-house to facillitate orgies between people whether there sexual orientation be hetero-sexual, homo-sexual or bi-sexual, is plain and simply immoral. the sexuality of these people, has no bearing on it whatsoever. I just think its terrible that such a place which facilitates a load of people to pay 15 quid in to **** around with countless others, is plain and simply wrong!

Just off the top of my head... what about swingers parties? Although sure, they're not in a designated building.

For anyone wondering why there's no such thing as straight saunas... well, gays started cruising etc because homosexuality was outlawed in most countries so they couldn't lead openly heterosexual lives, but of course still wanted to act upon their urges. I'd see sauna's as pretty much an extension of this... And seem to be mostly frequented by closeted/married individuals? Straight people never really needed a way to specifically find other heterosexuals for sex.

Either way, you can't just say it's "plain and simply wrong". If it's wrong for you then don't do it. Simple as.

I've never been to a sauna, but I went to a "sex club" (kind of the same thing I suppose), in Paris, and to be honest, found it totally uncomfortable. I basically went out of curiousity, and I wouldn't go back, but I still don't judge other people for what they choose to do.

Also I would think sauna's are the polar opposite of gay people being "in your face"... usually in a discrete location and provided so men can have sex with other men somewhere semi-private... as opposed to me walking down the street with a rainbow t shirt holding my boyfriend's hand.

stephen_n

sherdydan wrote: »

i think i see what anxious has the problem with, which, if im right, i feel the same. just his wording has been a bit focused on the gay side of it all.

what I feel is that ANY facillity which is basically a big sex-house to facillitate orgies between people whether there sexual orientation be hetero-sexual, homo-sexual or bi-sexual, is plain and simply immoral. the sexuality of these people, has no bearing on it whatsoever. I just think its terrible that such a place which facilitates a load of people to pay 15 quid in to **** around with countless others, is plain and simply wrong!

Morals are purely subjective, I'm sure there are plenty of things you do that would seem immoral or just plain wrong to me but I don't feel I have the right to subject my morals on you and nor should you on anyone else. The problem with this world is there are too many people running around judging others and trying to impose their morals on them, instead of looking after their own back yard like they should be, Iris obviously jumps to mind!

sherdydan

dont be giving me that about swingers partys, theyre wrong aswell. i am against any form of place which lets you in for the simple fact of getting you cock-sucked/vagina ravaged. My decision was in no way shape or form based on the sexuality of the people that frequented this particular location.

dreamer_ire

Have to say that my opinion of gay saunas/swingers parties etc is the same as my opinion on legalised prostitution/red light areas. I'm in favour of them. This is not because I would want to go there but it provides a safe venue for those who do. It also means those of us who are not interested in partaking in such activities can avoid the area and as such not be witness to something we don't want to see.

I'd much rather there were designated areas for such sexual activity than run the risk of turning a corner and seeing two people having sex in the street cos they have no place else they can go.

hitlersson666

if something like this excisted for straight people they would be uproar lol