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26-01-2010 6:26pm#1
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Stone.cold wrote: »ok sorry to jump back in so this will be a production based on a storyline? thats not giving people a real view of airsoft and all the entertainment you can have, a raw video shot on a day gives you the real feel of airsoft, just my opinioun
Even that needs narrative and storytelling to explain what is actually happening, if my understanding of the project is clear - this is meant to attract new players and explain us to those willing to take the five or ten minutes to watch a clip.
That is to say: I dont think it's going to be "The Unit" or "24"
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yeah i gathered that was what the op intent but i dont see how it will have any more impact than the dozens of video's already out there, but hey if it works then job well done, hope it works out for yaHivemind187 wrote: »Even that needs narrative and storytelling to explain what is actually happening, if my understanding of the project is clear - this is meant to attract new players and explain us to those willing to take the five or ten minutes to watch a clip.
That is to say: I dont think it's going to be "The Unit" or "24"0 -
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Stone.cold wrote: »ok maybe its to early to see the woods for the trees but i'm not seeing the advantage of this project, and tbh a video of airsoft sites in dublin might help sites in dublin attact more players (again i dont see how) but what about sligo galway cork wexford and laois? best of luck with it and i hope it works out for you[/QUOTE]
Just picked up on something you said there T. The emphasis of this project is to promote airsoft first, after that sites / retailers and teams can slug it out between themselves
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I used to make a few film shorts before Youtube and the likes was even about, so I’ve had a few ideas banging around in my head for the last few days in regard a video short about airsoft in Ireland.
I've been thinking of doing it on a personal level and getting everyone else onboard as I went along, but it obviously makes more sense to get professionals involved to make the logistics easier.
Essentially what I’ve been thinking about is a short film, 10 minutes long, filmed in a documentary style so that it can easily be transferred to TV if we were lucky enough to get some airtime.
The idea revolves around not only advertising the sport to new players, but also to educate people who would otherwise be intimidated by the idea of the sport, until of course they see it in action.
Someone needs to host the film, a player, a site owner, an IAA board member or a retailer. The host’s job is kept out of it so as to remain impartial, unless they are an IAA board member.
I think the format of that Australian news report on YouTube was very good, however it was too short and the journalist wasn't an airsofter themselves. This idea loosely follows that format.
This person talks to the camera from the outset, from a random, unnamed skirmish site to simply have a setting for the film to begin. A few short clips of players running about playing the game sets the tone, while a bit of narration outlines the basic idea behind airsoft; it’s a tag sport, based around teamwork etc etc.
Then a cut to the host standing at a table outdoors with several airsoft devices on the table, with another guy beside him in full tactical gear, and another chap with the minimum of gear required (face mask etc).
The host outlines briefly what the guns fire, how an AEG works, the range, ROF etc, and the same for perhaps a pistol and a sniper rifle. He then covers the average cost of getting started for each of the mentioned items and then refers to the two guys beside him and outlines the minimum equipment to get started, as well as the cost of the gear on both players.
Some information regarding the law at this point would be necessary.
Then we cut to the fun stuff. Instead of a few boring clips of players shooting on full auto and the likes and the viewers not really having any clue what’s going on, have the film cut directly into a game in which the host is directly participating. The host is fully kitted out and is pinned behind a wall to the left of an open window, with enemy BBs echoing off the other side of the wall and stray BBs flying in the window.
The camera is located on the right side of the window and the host starts commenting on the action with a radio mic attached "you're joining us right in the middle of a game, there’s only two players left on the opposite team [cut to a second camera out on the field that can see both the host pinned behind a wall and the two other players behind a wall 20 metres away] and there’s only two of us left [cut back to a wider angle where you can see the hosts teammate who just gets hit and puts up his hand after BBs hitting him through the window. This demonstrates how honesty is paramount].
"Now it’s just me left, and I have to get the bomb [host fires out the window] located just in front of the enemy’s base [cuts to bomb in front of the enemy base] into their base in the next 60 seconds!". [host reloads demonstrating the need to reload and fires out the window again and hits one of the remaining players. Enemy player starts walking off to where all the killed players are standing watching and host makes a run for the bomb after switching to pistol as he is out of AEG magazines. Some fast camera work and quick cuts liven up the scenes and in the end, well, the host can either be successful or not, it doesn’t really matter].
Film then cuts to being amongst the players just after the game, clearing chambers, removing magazines and making AEGs safe. The host can then do the same kind of thing as in the Australian documentary, going from one player to the next rapid fire, asking each person what they do for a living to illustrate all the different walks of like players come from, as well as showing the varying ages involved.
This is where the logistics of one of my ideas gets potentially tricky.
The film then cuts to the host then asking the question "how big is airsoft in Ireland? Well there are sites here in Galway... [Switches to a close up of the host being in Galway on a skirmish site, the camera zooms out (it’s high up) and you can see the host standing in front of a large volume of players on that particular site, everyone cheers!], "Sligo..." [Same thing happens], "Cork..." [same thing again], "Dublin, Limerick, Meath, Louth, Tipperary..." [with possibly each shot becoming progressively faster, how this may be unfair to the sites towards the end however a minimum time for each would be recommended. These kind of shots give an idea of the scale of airsoft and that it isn’t a sport like paintball where the majority of players are only playing for parties, weekends away etc, that it is an ongoing hobby for many people.
Then the host poses the question "So where do I buy my gear?". And the same thing can happen as the skirmish site idea above, but perhaps with the shop owners in the middle of the shop floor and the camera pans from left to right and as the camera passes over the centre of the floor, the host who is standing with the staff says the name and/or location of the shop to illustrate the amount of retailers around the country. As the camera pans to the right, the shot fades into the next shop and so on until every shop is covered, much like the sites.
Again this gives an insight to the many, many people who now rely on airsoft as their job. It also shows the contribution that airsoft is making to the economy etc.
The film can wrap up any number of ways, but I just thought I’d type up the few ideas I had.
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As has been said, things need to be written and worked with, but before that a, for want of a better word, staff/team need to be decided on to work on it. I'll happily lend my writing, but since FK has also said she'd do it, I'd also happily "but-out" (or work together, I'm indifferent to it)...if I can help I will, even if by helping it means I f-off
Trust me on this though folks...unless SOMEONE takes control, nothing will happen. For now all that needs to happen is for a staff/team of those who will make the thing (not who'll be in it) needs to be sorted, they need to meet up (in person works best as you can physically express messages etc easier) and sort it all out. Then comes the finer details, when the whole concept is finalised.
I originally thought this project was to bring new blood in, by promoting Irish Airsoft...honestly I thought it was an advert (good quality airsoft footage with text throughout providing information) for Irish Airsoft. Now it seems that it's more doc/drama based...again, although indifferent to what it is, no one is clear. Because of this, I really think it's better to sort the team, they sort out what this will be (for now it being "an airsoft video for IAA YT), and then going about everything to make it.
Just my few cent
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Can I just mention one thing? Documentary = good, but I seriously recommend a professionaly done clip, 1 minute 15 MAXIMUM, even out of the footage used for doc. Why? Aim of vid = attract more people. Documentary doesn't necessarily do that, it's rather something you watch if you're interested. A small vid can get you interested quicker. Something snappy and to the point, clips of airsoft with written (or narrated) text, ending with a small message and where to get in touch/visit for more info. Could even be used as an advert for the documentary itself.
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I'm more willing to butt out if required, Re reading i see you offered firstAs has been said, things need to be written and worked with, but before that a, for want of a better word, staff/team need to be decided on to work on it. I'll happily lend my writing, but since FK has also said she'd do it, I'd also happily "but-out" (or work together, I'm indifferent to it)...if I can help I will, even if by helping it means I f-off
Trust me on this though folks...unless SOMEONE takes control, nothing will happen. For now all that needs to happen is for a staff/team of those who will make the thing (not who'll be in it) needs to be sorted, they need to meet up (in person works best as you can physically express messages etc easier) and sort it all out. Then comes the finer details, when the whole concept is finalised.
I originally thought this project was to bring new blood in, by promoting Irish Airsoft...honestly I thought it was an advert (good quality airsoft footage with text throughout providing information) for Irish Airsoft. Now it seems that it's more doc/drama based...again, although indifferent to what it is, no one is clear. Because of this, I really think it's better to sort the team, they sort out what this will be (for now it being "an airsoft video for IAA YT), and then going about everything to make it.
Just my few cent If they wanted writers, i'd be happy to work with you inari if they so desirded. 0 -
Firekitten wrote: »I'm more willing to butt out if required, Re reading i see you offered first If they wanted writers, i'd be happy to work with you inari if they so desirded.
you can never have too many writers. the more ideas that go into a creative project, the better. 0 -
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Take aim mag wrote: »you can never have too many writers. the more ideas that go into a creative project, the better.
Yes, definetly more writers the better, as long as they wont be insulted if there shot is left out:pac:0 -
Something like this would be best
After watching it again, tbh that's excatly what you want.
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If you need a sexy poser you know where to find me
Firekitten wrote: »Why? you offering to give me a ride to the film location?
Jaysus I thought I was vain...0 -
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Yore grand, I'm sure there's something important I can do, like look good.Firekitten wrote: »We always need a tea boy Lefty0 -
Firekitten wrote: »Why? you offering to give me a ride to the film location?
I can tell you now, most people will not read past that.
*Don't murder me Lemming.0 -
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