Parthenaise bulls on dairy cows???

bealaha

was just wondering if anyone had any experience of parthenaise bulls used on dairy cows and how they worked out. i ve seen some parthenaise cattle and were quite impressed by them and seeing as we have got rid of the angus bull that we used for cleaning up after ai on the home farm, i was thinking of trying a different breed, any info would be appreciated.

Sam Kade

http://www.parthenaise.ie/
Going by their website they are easy calving. Look under cross breeding.

pakalasa

Have a look at this;

http://www.icbf.com/services/evaluations/files/Breedpercentiles_010909.xls

It shows how the breeds compare.

Parthenaise have an average calving dificulty of 4.76%.
Angus are 2.05% with Limousin at 5.05%. So they're around the same as Limousin.

Waddy

they would may quare nice sucklers cows, they would be the rite job.

UPCS

If the appropriate parthenaise bull is used you should have no calving difficulties as a friend with a large dairy herd used the appropiate bull on 80 cows and they all calved themselves and he is very happy with the calfs.

Finno59

UPCS wrote: »

If the appropriate parthenaise bull is used you should have no calving difficulties as a friend with a large dairy herd used the appropiate bull on 80 cows and they all calved themselves and he is very happy with the calfs.

What was their colour? did he get good money when he sold them?

reilig

Lads, I don't know about your areas, but in the local weinling sales over the past 2 months, Parthenaise weinlings have really been performing very poorly price wise. I was in Mohill a couple of weeks ago and a guy sold out over 20 bull calves. They were at least eur 100 per head behind the equivalent weight limousins or charolais calves. There was just no buying for them. Saw similar stories in Elphin and Granard marts when I was in them at spring sales albeit in smaller numbers.

Has anyone seen a similar trend??

Based on these prices, I wouldn't be encouraged to use a Parthenaise Bull.

Farmers just weren't interested in bidding for them. The couple of dealers and export buyers had them all to themselves.

Juniorhurler

reilig wrote: »

Lads, I don't know about your areas, but in the local weinling sales over the past 2 months, Parthenaise weinlings have really been performing very poorly price wise. I was in Mohill a couple of weeks ago and a guy sold out over 20 bull calves. They were at least eur 100 per head behind the equivalent weight limousins or charolais calves. There was just no buying for them. Saw similar stories in Elphin and Granard marts when I was in them at spring sales albeit in smaller numbers.

Has anyone seen a similar trend??

Based on these prices, I wouldn't be encouraged to use a Parthenaise Bull.

Farmers just weren't interested in bidding for them. The couple of dealers and export buyers had them all to themselves.

I have seen a good few sold at Carnew mart. One breeder around here had some that were from belgian blue cows which were in turn from British friesian cows. The quality was excellent and the prices were way ahead of the limousins and charolais and on a par with the blue weanlings (mind you they had the belgian blue shape, probably from the mother). Haven't seen any sold as stores about here so can only comment on them at weanling stage. The plainer ones I have seen bring about the same as equivalent cattle of other continental breeds.

I must say I have seen Part/Lim cross suckler cows and am thinking of giving a few of my limousin sucklers parthenaise straws and hoping for replacements from them.

UPCS

Finno59 wrote: »

What was their colour? did he get good money when he sold them?

They were black and white with some of the parthenaise characteristics, and he did, he got very good money! He was well pleased. They come and bought them off the farm.