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mysterious

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[SIZE=+4]A few interesting "facts" about our reality.
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1. We are moving from the third dimension into the fourth dimension or fourth density. Apparently the fourth density is much more full of life. People must still care for their physical bodies. It is also a density where compassion, understanding and love are more predominant. Full conversion to fourth density will occur between 2003 and 2013. It is interesting to note that the mathematics behind the I Ching "go jackpot" around 2012. During the Montauk Project (military time travel) no one picked up a tangible future beyond 2012 AD. There is a very abrupt wall there with nothing on the other side except a dreamlike reality. The fifth dimension?

2. The Earth has a biorhythm that peaks every 20 years on the 12th August. The next peak is 2003.

3. When Neil Armstrong and others landed on the moon in 1969, they were watched by a group of UFOs or disk shaped craft. It turns out they were American disks! That's why the astronauts were so angry - America had already been to the Moon (and Mars).

4. There is a base or city of 3 million people on Mars. This is a military/ET base (Michael Relfe, The Mars Records).

5. A shuttle operates every week from Earth to Alpha Centauri 4. The inhabitants of that planet are very human like in appearance.

6.While on Earth the Orion reptilians need a matrix of 12 satellites as a life support system. They set up these satellites many years ago. (Val Valerian)

7. AIDS or the HIV virus was created at Fort Maryland in the USA. It has strong alien connections. It originated on the orders of the World Health Organization. It was part of the population reduction programme. In 1978 they laced the gamma globulin for Hepatitis B vaccine. They have a cure that involves electromagnetics. Dr. Beck's Blood Cleaner also works. (Val Valerian).

8. The secret government/military have developed a missile that has a minimum operational range of 1 light year. They can hit any spacecraft well beyond the solar system. There may be one at Pine Gap. (Val Valerian)

9. Most species in the Universe, even the negative ones, refer to a divine source or Prime Creator.

10. There is a very extensive tunnel network around the globe, particularly in the USA. Travel in the tunnels is via Magnetic Levetation trains at extreme speeds.

11. The "black nobility" of Europe actually have blue blood that is not haemoglobin based but copper based. They are semi-human There was a problem with haemophilia and not because of intermarrying. The problem was that they started to marry outside of the copper based blood system. They don't mix. This is where the laws against marrying commoners originated. This may tie in with the work of David Icke (reptilians). (Val Valerian)

12. Human cloning was developed at the University of Utah in 1977. It took 14 months to develop a fully adult human. They have clones of all the major government figures. If someone falls out of favour, they clone the person and kill the original.

13. The Men in Black are not residents of Earth. They monitor conditions on the planet. They are not physical beings, but they can become solid.

14. Our ego is culturally conditioned to a reactionary state which is encouraged by media and literature to focus on the elements of security, sensation and power. Under these circumstances individuals are basically dis-empowered and blind. What is missing is the love of truth, life and the creator that we are all a part of. The idea is to transform "self-preservation" into right action, "self-gratification" into right feeling and "self-definition" into right thought.

15. Ground penetrating radar has shown complex labyrinthine underground systems in various parts of the world. Tunnels have been mapped under the Mayan pyramid complex at Tikal which extend a full 800 kilometres to the opposite side of the country. This may explain how half a million Mayan Indians escaped decimation of their culture.

16. A "City of Yahweh" has been discovered under the Great Pyramid complex at Giza, Egypt. There are subterranean rivers and kilometre-wide lakes being explored in this 15,000 year old metropolis.

17. In relation to Yahweh/Jehovah, Jesus came to bring a new covenant and a new view of the God of love. Jesus did away with the Old Testament Gods' many commandments and strictures and replaced them with just two: Love God with all your heart and your neighbour as yourself. Virgil Armstrong says that Yahweh/Jehovah is head of the "lesser gods".

18. Around 1987 a project called Moonscan started. It lasted into 1989 and involved positioning mind control equipment on the moon for use on the population of earth. It, like others, has clear connections to negative alien activity. It was managed by Airborne Instrument Laboratories who have three branches, covert, commercial and defence. One alien group involved was the Kondrashkin. They have pale skin that has a slight greenish tint and almost no hair. They look human and had to bleach their skin and wear wigs.

19 An interesting technology spin off from the Philadelphia Experiment is a portable unit that can render an individual invisible. The NSA is known to use them on a fairly regular basis.

20. The Philadelphia Experiment was not an alien operation, as such, but what was set up was the date, August 12 1943 because it had to be locked to the Phoenix (Montauk) project on August 12 1983. The date was set by alien influence in order to cause a 40 year hole in hyperspace through which large numbers of alien craft could enter this dimension. It worked, but it didn't last long enough to give the aliens the maximum benefits of the scenario. The order for the date came from a man in the White House who was directing certain aspects of the project.

21. Why did Phil Schneider (builder of secret underground bases for the government) go public? Apparently one day he was asked to be present at a meeting of the New World Order in an underground base. He saw roughly 160 world leaders seated in an auditorium. But down the front there were 12 empty reserved seats. He was wondering who they were reserved for. What he saw next surprised him. 12 tall Grey aliens entered and sat in the empty seats. After that Phil knew that he could no longer stay silent.

22. Why do humans age? There are two genes missing from the human chromosome. One of them controls the aging process, so humans age. Because of this, when cells are duplicated in the body they are compared to the parent cell, not a master pattern that would exist in the genes, so the duplicate is not exactly the same in time. So humans are gradually ageing.

23. At an abduction in 1990 of a 21 yo woman, the beings present were the short little helpers that the Greys use, the ones that wear hooded cloaks There were Grey clones, tall Greys, Sirians and US military personnel of some description. The woman has her breasts and other body parts hooked up to some machine that maintained her in a pre-orgiastic state while they used inculation bars with red and blue lights to aid in the programming. When she did something they didn't like, they would take her out of her body and stick her in a "black box", where there is terrible loneliness and isolation. They eventually told her that if she talked too much they would do that again.

24. What is polarisation of an individual entity? Generally entities or people can have little or no polarisation, positive polarisation or negative polarisation. A positively polarised entity will select a path embodying service to others. An entity choosing negative polarisation would focus on service to self. A negative polarisation involves the elements of control and repression. For example, a negatively polarised entity would seek separation from and control over others by sexual means and have the idea of power as an end. The negatively orientated entity will program for maximum separation from and control over all entities which it perceives as being other than itself. Eventually entities will realise that their actions on other selves are actually being done to themselves, since the consciousness present in each entity is a variation on the same thing. The individuation is present to allow maximum differentiation of potentiality and creation.

25. From "Deadly Deception at Port Arthur" by Jo Vialls. At 1.30 p.m. on Sunday 28 April 1996, an unknown professional combat shooter opened fire in the Broad Arrow Cafe at Port Arthur in Tasmania. In less than a minute 20 people lay dead, 19 of them killed with single shots to the head fired from the right hip of the fast-moving shooter. In less than thirty minutes at six crime scenes, 35 people were shot dead, another 22 wounded, and 2 cars stopped with a total of only 64 bullets. A fast moving Daihatsu Feroza 4WD driven by Linda White was crippled by a "Beirut Triple"; normally reserved for dead-blocking Islamic terrorists driving primed car bombs around the Lebanon. One sighting shot, a second to disable the driver, and a third to stop the engine before the primed car bomb can hit its target and explode. Very few know of this obscure technique, and even fewer can master it with only three bullets. This awesome display of combat marksmanship was blamed on an intellectually impaired young man called Martin Bryant, who had no shooting or than military experience at all. As this book proves scientifically, Bryant killed no one at Port Arthur. It is now up to the Australian Federal Government and people to track down those responsible for ordering and funding this loathsome terrorist attack against Australians on Commonwealth territory.

26. The secret military/elite gain 44 years of new advanced technology for every 12 months that pass her on Earth. Virgil Armstrong says they are about 400 years ahead of the general population with their technology.


I made the purple parts hightlighted as watch the space links.

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Reptiilan/Alien DNA and reysus monkey factor
http://www.greatdreams.com/reptlan/rhneg.htm

Bluebloods,
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/reptiles/reptiles17a.htm#6 - Bluebloods

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/reptiles/reptiles17a.htm#7 - Other alien groups

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Montauk.

http://www.alienshift.com/id33.html

http://www.crystalinks.com/montauk.html

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Mars, Cydonia, Giza, Mars - Earth connection.

http://www.mt.net/~watcher/mars.html

Some anomlies on Mars.

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicmarsanoms.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwzOzjgOVag&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGlThzUa4dE&feature=related


Mars Earth Connection

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/marte/esp_marte_18.htm

An interesting fact Cairo in latin is called city on Mars.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/esp_vida_alien_38.htm

City under Giza (this is a fact)
http://www.rense.com/ufo5/undergiza.htm



http://netowne.com/historical/egyptology/giza.htm

This is some of my links for now. I have others that I will post up. We should have a section to post all these links onto one thread. If you have any links to share please don't hesitate not to post. Get the truth out there. I'm very interested in the Mars Giza connection at the moment, because my subconsious and dreams have been very effected by that. If you want to discuss what I believe about this feel free to ask. I don't have proof so don't ask. If you want proof your best bet is to do research.

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Amtmann

IBFTL

fricatus

Furet wrote: »

IBFTL

Hehe, easy on him... maybe he meant to post in Conspiracy Theories?

Cool Mo D

Best laugh I've had in ages - would read again!

Tech3

Mysterious thats some post but not for the Infrastructure forum

toiletduck

The Earth has a biorhythm that peaks every 20 years on the 12th August. The next peak is 2003.

Well... what happened?

PirateShampoo

Can you prove any of this?

150,000 years ago Earth was found by a fleet of extra-terrestrial humans who were travelling across the galaxy.
They were fleeing the destruction of their home worlds by machines they had created.
They travelled far following the clues left by their forefathers, but eventually their flagship was damaged beyond repair.
30,000 survivors decided to settle on Earth and breed with the humans there and sent their ships into the sun.
One of the survivors was a half human half machine hybrid and this little girl became the earliest common ancestor of all modern humans.

Sure, it's the plot from Battlestar Galactica, but it's as likely as the nonsense mysterious posted.
Makes more sense and is more entertaining too.

bonkey

King Mob wrote: »

Sure, it's the plot from Battlestar Galactica, but it's as likely as the nonsense mysterious posted.
Makes more sense and is more entertaining too.

If this is what you understand civil discussion of a topic to be, I think we have a problem.

PirateShampoo

bonkey wrote: »

If this is what you understand civil discussion of a topic to be, I think we have a problem.

What would be the appropriate response to the op post then?

We cant question him on it because theres no proof to what he's saying, for all we know he has just posted a plot to a sci-fi book he is writing.

Where exactly is this thread supposed to go?

Daemos

mysterious wrote: »

2. The Earth has a biorhythm that peaks every 20 years on the 12th August. The next peak is 2003.

I like to try to believe this kind of thing, but I stopped when I saw that it was only a copy/paste job from an article at least 8 years old tbh

bonkey

PirateShampoo wrote: »

What would be the appropriate response to the op post then?

OK...I'll make an exception to the "don't discuss moderation in-thread" rules here...but please don't turn this into a running debate.

Firstly...no-one's forcing you to post. Not posting could, therefore, be an appropriate response, indicating that you have no interest whatsoever in discussing the topic. Indeed, topics that people don't respond to very quckly die....by posting on a topic you help keep it alive. I genuinely don't understand why someone would want to keep a topic alive, only to make the argument that there's nothing to talk about.

We cant question him on it because theres no proof to what he's saying, for all we know he has just posted a plot to a sci-fi book he is writing.

Please re-read the charter regarding proof, evidence, opinion, etc. Lack of proof has nothing to do with anything here. If you want to discuss the ideas, discuss the ideas. If you want to disagree with them, disagree with them politely.

If you have an issue that they're just bald statements made with absolutely nothing to give them context or credibility, then consider that asking questions about context or further details might not be an unreasonable step before dismissing them as indistinguishable from a work of fiction.

Although you phrased your question badly (asking for proof), that was your stance before KM joined in with his abrupt dismissal of it. Has that now changed? Were you interested in asking questions until someone else called it nonsense, at which point you've decided that asking questions is the wrong thing to do? If so, then you're more-or-less proving my point that such posts do nothing to further discussion, where asking questions might.

Where exactly is this thread supposed to go?

It should either go nowhere, or lead into a civil discussion on some/all of the points raised. That some people reading the thread may find it pointless and nonsensical is, to be honest, mostly irrelevant.

What is relevant, is that there's no real Conspiracy Theory here. However, the thread was moved to this form from Infrastructure, so I'm doing it the courtesy of seeing if it goes anywhere before deciding what to do with it.

rockmongrel

The font colour and size is giving me a migraine..

PirateShampoo

So when someone is stating something has "Fact" (its in big red letters up there) we shouldnt ask him for proof of this?

And as for your suggestion about questioning him, whats the point, he wont answer any thing thats put to him.

And as already pointed out this is a copy and paste job thats 8 years or older.

squod

15. Ground penetrating radar has shown complex labyrinthine underground systems in various parts of the world. Tunnels have been mapped under the Mayan pyramid complex at Tikal which extend a full 800 kilometres to the opposite side of the country. This may explain how half a million Mayan Indians escaped decimation of their culture.

16. A "City of Yahweh" has been discovered under the Great Pyramid complex at Giza, Egypt. There are subterranean rivers and kilometre-wide lakes being explored in this 15,000 year old metropolis.

These two points are facinating. Before anyone starts giving out I'd like some references to these please. Does anyone have a webpage or book which gives accounts of either of these?

espinolman

PirateShampoo wrote: »

Can you prove any of this?

I do not need proof . I know what is true .

bonkey

PirateShampoo wrote: »

And as for your suggestion about questioning him, whats the point, he wont answer any thing thats put to him.

Look...its up to you whether or not you want to ask him questions.

You seemed happy to ask a question...until someone else stepped beyond the bounds of civil discussion.

All I'm saying is that if you decide not to ask questions, then abandoning civility is not an acceptable alternative.

And as already pointed out this is a copy and paste job thats 8 years or older.

I don't see a problem with the age of the article.

It made one comment about 2003, which didn't predict anything. Other than that, everything it says is either time-irrelevant, or making predictions about dates that still lie in our future.

But again...and hopefully for the last time...if you're not interested in discussing the article no-one is forcing you to post.

bonkey

espinolman wrote: »

I do not need proof . I know what is true .

That's a no from you, then.

Anyone else?

Undergod

mysterious wrote: »

[SIZE=+4]A few interesting "facts" about our reality.

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You even put it in quotation marks so we wouldn't have to.

espinolman

The earth's moon is artificial :

http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=2&ved=0CAwQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.redicecreations.com%2Fspecialreports%2F2006%2F01jan%2Fmoon.html&rct=j&q=earths+moon+is+artificial&ei=rt1aS4rdDJ-I0wSSpKSABQ&usg=AFQjCNGiTWewojqnI5ra-zxB8yIsXkSTzg

Brown Bomber

Undergod wrote: »

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You even put it in quotation marks so we wouldn't have to.

They are scare quotes. Meaning that "facts" is not the ideal terminology. So they are less than facts in the authors eyes.

mysterious wrote: »

23. At an abduction in 1990 of a 21 yo woman, the beings present were the short little helpers that the Greys use, the ones that wear hooded cloaks There were Grey clones, tall Greys, Sirians and US military personnel of some description. The woman has her breasts and other body parts hooked up to some machine that maintained her in a pre-orgiastic state while they used inculation bars with red and blue lights to aid in the programming. When she did something they didn't like, they would take her out of her body and stick her in a "black box", where there is terrible loneliness and isolation. They eventually told her that if she talked too much they would do that again.

Any more info on this machine Mysterious? I'd be interested.

Lab_Mouse

If people are just going to post links and not discuss surely they should go in the sticky for CT links.

A shuttle to alpha centauri?weekly mustnt be much of demand for it.

As for the cloning of world leaders,while they would look a like they would have to similate there growth from the minute they are born up to time they would have to step in.

There's a good book called 'boys from brazil 'if anyone's interested in it.(its fiction I might add)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boys_from_brazil that is about the attempt to get another Hitler

namloc1980

espinolman wrote: »

The earth's moon is artificial :

http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=2&ved=0CAwQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.redicecreations.com%2Fspecialreports%2F2006%2F01jan%2Fmoon.html&rct=j&q=earths+moon+is+artificial&ei=rt1aS4rdDJ-I0wSSpKSABQ&usg=AFQjCNGiTWewojqnI5ra-zxB8yIsXkSTzg

This is non-sensical stuff, full of the usual lack of facts with plenty of made up lazy psuedo-science on top!

MarkR

15. Ground penetrating radar has shown complex labyrinthine underground systems in various parts of the world. Tunnels have been mapped under the Mayan pyramid complex at Tikal which extend a full 800 kilometres to the opposite side of the country. This may explain how half a million Mayan Indians escaped decimation of their culture.

16. A "City of Yahweh" has been discovered under the Great Pyramid complex at Giza, Egypt. There are subterranean rivers and kilometre-wide lakes being explored in this 15,000 year old metropolis.

Can you post some pictures taken with the ground penetrating radar? I would be interested to see this.

Edit - just spotted you said you had no proof, and said we should do some research.

What sort of research would you recommend?