What Karate Style is represented...?

Damo W

Hi Guys,

I was just wondering what karate styles (limit to Okinawa and Japanese) are represented on the boards vs. what’s available in Ireland.

I have put together a list of all styles/interpretations that I know of active in Ireland, please correct me if I am in error and/or make the necessary additions.

Koryu Uchinadi Kenpo-Jutsu (:))

Shotokan
Where would one start there are a myriad of organisations, main ones listed below, rather than suggesting whats in Ireland, possibly reps. from each org might indicate so…
(1) Nihon Karatedo Shotokai (S. Egami; this is the follow-up organization of G. Funakoshi's own group)
(2) Shoto Domonkai (T. Watanabe)
(3) Nihon Shoto Rengokai (N. Mizuda)
(4) Shotokan Karate of America (T. Oshima)
(5) Nihon Karate Shoto Renmei (T. Asai)
(6) Kokusai Shotokan Karate Renmei (H. Kanazawa)
(7) Nihon Karatedo Yutenkai
(8) Shoto-Ryu (T. Shimizu)
(9) Gima-Ha Shotokan-Ryu (S. Gima)
(10) Okano-Ha Shotokan-Ryu (T. Okano)
(11) Kase-Ha Shotokan Ryu (T. Kase)
(12) Nihon Karate Kyokai
(13) Chidokan (T. Sasaki)

Sh1to-ryu Itosa Kai

Sh1to-ryu Kofukan

Ryukyu Kenpo

Wado Ryu
A number of organisations

Shotokan/Goju Ryu

Kyokushin
A number of organisations

Matsubayashi Shorin Ryu
Two different org’s AFAIK

Matsumura Seito Shorin Ryu

Is there any other Okinawan/Japanese karate active in Ireland?

suey71

Tom Ward out in Coolmine created a system of Karate which he calls Kantanni. I'm not sure if it fits in with your list though, just thought I'd mention it.

YamaMotoYama

Damo W wrote: »

Hi Guys,

I was just wondering what karate styles (limit to Okinawa and Japanese) are represented on the boards vs. what’s available in Ireland.

Why limit it? Whats wrong with the non-Japanese styles?

FruitLover

Damo W wrote: »

(5) Nihon Karate Shoto Renmei (T. Asai)

Asai's dead, the head of the JKS is now Masao Kagawa.

YamaMotoYama wrote: »

Why limit it? Whats wrong with the non-Japanese styles?

You really need to ask what's wrong with the likes of American kempo?

Zen65

Re your Shotokan listings:

Taji Kase is passed away, and the Academy he created is now headed by Dirk Heene.

You did not list the JKA's chief instructor Sugiura Shihan, who is still alive as far as I know.

Finally, the World Shotokan Institution is headed by Sensei Shirai.

A lot of organisations for "one style" !

Damo W

YamaMotoYama wrote: »

Why limit it?Whats wrong with the non-Japanese styles?

Huh!!!

Nothing in the world wrong with them.

I know very little about them and would not wish to compile a list without some knowledge, even after 20 years of Shotokan errors appeared in my shotokan list.

Damo W

Zen65 wrote: »

Re your Shotokan listings:

Taji Kase is passed away, and the Academy he created is now headed by Dirk Heene.

You did not list the JKA's chief instructor Sugiura Shihan, who is still alive as far as I know.

Finally, the World Shotokan Institution is headed by Sensei Shirai.

A lot of organisations for "one style" !

Cheers for that, did not know who headed the JKA now etc.

pgibbo

Shotokan - IJKA (S. Kato) http://ijkaireland.net/

Damo W

pgibbo wrote: »

Shotokan - IJKA (S. Kato) http://ijkaireland.net/

Cheers

cletus

A quick query from somebody who knows nothing about karate. are all those different shotokan groups actually demonstratably different, or is it like the difference between training Renzo Gracie Jiu-Jitsu as opposed to Rickson Gracie Jiu-Jitsu?

Charlie3dan

pgibbo wrote: »

Shotokan - IJKA (S. Kato) http://ijkaireland.net/

Are there any scheduled courses with Kato in Ireland this year do you know?

pgibbo

Charlie3dan wrote: »

Are there any scheduled courses with Kato in Ireland this year do you know?

3 that I know of so far but dates & venues are to be confirmed. I'll double check and let you know.

Mar 12-14. This was in Tuam, Galway last year and will most likely be again this year.
Jun 25-27. Has been in Dungarvan for the last few years and most likely will be again this year.
October 15-17. Usually in Fermoy or Cork.

Charlie3dan

Cheers, i'll make a note of those dates, always seem to hear about his courses after they happen.

Sorry for Hijacking the thread Damo!

Zen65

cletus wrote: »

A quick query from somebody who knows nothing about karate. are all those different shotokan groups actually demonstratably different, or is it like the difference between training Renzo Gracie Jiu-Jitsu as opposed to Rickson Gracie Jiu-Jitsu?

I've trained under a few different Shotokan organisations and I find they are broadly the same, with minor quirks reflecting the preferred strategies, stances and syllabus content of the Chief Instructor.

The biggest differences I have found is how each organisation relates to competitions. Many Shotokan organisations have a strong competitions ethos, whereas others emphasize the Budo aspects of karate, sometimes to the exclusion of competition altogether.

smacl

In terms of style, Wado Ryu tends to have higher stances than Shotokan and tends to favour speed and deflection over power and hard blocks.

Kyokushun kai is a full contact style, where most others are soft contact, and therefore sees more cross over into MMA.

Like all MA, the focus of any club varies hugely based on the instructor and students.

Zen65

smacl wrote: »

In terms of style, Wado Ryu tends to have higher stances than Shotokan and tends to favour speed and deflection over power and hard blocks.

It has been said that the difference between Wado Ryu and Shotokan is mainly around strategy. A Shotokan practitioner trains so that he can develop the strength and stability to stop a runaway car by standing in a deep, routed stance and blocking the car's movement head-on. A Wado Ryu practitioner trains to be fast enough to be able to get out of the way of a runaway car.

FruitLover

cletus wrote: »

are all those different shotokan groups actually demonstratably different

Probably only to a shotokan practitioner (and even then, it would be impossible to tell a JKA guy from a SKIF guy from a JKS guy etc just by watching them). The various organisations and factions tend to have more to do with politics and power struggles than differences in actual training methods.

Zen65 wrote: »

A Shotokan practitioner trains so that he can develop the strength and stability to stop a runaway car by standing in a deep, routed stance and blocking the car's movement head-on

Haven't had any of my shotokan instructors over the years mention runaway cars to the best of my recollection. Plus, they would be more of the 'get out of the way' mentality.

Damo W

Charlie3dan wrote: »

Cheers, i'll make a note of those dates, always seem to hear about his courses after they happen.

Sorry for Hijacking the thread Damo!

No worries, same here about dates etc.

Cheers