IteractivTV oN Freesat

mick087 · 14-01-2010 3:40pm #1

Ok im in Dublin does anyone no is it possible to get free interactive tv push red button on freesat tv.I have free sat but refuse to pay to ant subscribtion comanys for tv..
So if anyone nos if this possible what box tv etc i need all help is great

Mossy Monk · 14-01-2010 4:17pm

Any Freesat box should give you interactive on channels that it is available to eg. BBC.

elsie1b · 14-01-2010 5:34pm

Mossy Monk wrote: »

Any Freesat box should give you interactive on channels that it is available to eg. BBC.

Freesat boxes do not as yet give the full interactive feeds on BBC.
To get some interactive programmes, e.g concerts,a sky box without a card or a lidl/aldi box would give you all the feeds.

Mossy Monk · 14-01-2010 5:56pm

elsie1b wrote: »

Freesat boxes do not as yet give the full interactive feeds on BBC.

They don't? What's different about Freesat that makes it limited in that way?

elsie1b · 14-01-2010 7:06pm

Mossy Monk wrote: »

They don't? What's different about Freesat that makes it limited in that way?

At the moment the sports feeds are on freesat,but interactive feeds from rock concerts are not.
The bbc have promised to fix this for freesat,but not at the moment.

Mossy Monk · 14-01-2010 7:55pm

elsie1b wrote: »

At the moment the sports feeds are on freesat,but interactive feeds from rock concerts are not.
The bbc have promised to fix this for freesat,but not at the moment.

That's odd considering they broadcast them on the same satellite for Sky Digital viewers,

homer911 · 14-01-2010 8:46pm

elsie1b wrote: »

At the moment the sports feeds are on freesat,but interactive feeds from rock concerts are not.
The bbc have promised to fix this for freesat,but not at the moment.

You can probably get them in non-Freesat mode

elsie1b · 14-01-2010 10:17pm

homer911 wrote: »

You can probably get them in non-Freesat mode

They are not available in non-freesat mode, i.e freesat does not list each stream as a channel like other fta boxes.

ei9go · 15-01-2010 11:00am

You also don't get the video weather forecast which you do get with a SKY box.

FRIENDO · 15-01-2010 11:17am

Freesat interactive, red button on BBC Home Page
News
Sport
Weather
Business
Enterainment
Lottery
Sport Multiscreen (including Darts Highlights, Video of sports news) at this time
Regional News
Read Latest Headlines

Box's used Humax Freesat+ HDR and a Goodmans Sat4free box.

Satdog · 15-01-2010 11:43am

elsie1b wrote: »

They are not available in non-freesat mode, i.e freesat does not list each stream as a channel like other fta boxes.

In non-freesat mode did you check channels "Stream 0" through to "Stream 8". They carry the BBC interactive channels and I've certainly seen rock concerts including Glastonbury.

FRIENDO · 15-01-2010 3:40pm

Only picking up Stream 0 and Stream 1 in non freesat mode, will try later a re-tune to search for other streams.

fat-tony · 15-01-2010 4:13pm

Mossy Monk wrote: »

That's odd considering they broadcast them on the same satellite for Sky Digital viewers,

The interactive software used on SKY boxes is proprietary - ironically named OpenTV.;)
BBC had to develop new software for the MHEG profile used on Freesat. To date they have ported across the sports multi-screens, but have not yet implemented the news/weather and music multi-screens. They don't seem to be in any rush either, which is a pity:(

elsie1b · 15-01-2010 4:37pm

Satdog wrote: »

In non-freesat mode did you check channels "Stream 0" through to "Stream 8". They carry the BBC interactive channels and I've certainly seen rock concerts including Glastonbury.

Streams 0 to 8 do not appear as individual channels on a humax foxsat hd receiver in non-freesat mode.
What brand of freesat receiver are you using ?

John mac · 15-01-2010 4:51pm

elsie1b wrote: »

Streams 0 to 8 do not appear as individual channels on a humax foxsat hd receiver in non-freesat mode.
What brand of freesat receiver are you using ?

did you do a scan for them?

elsie1b · 15-01-2010 4:58pm

John mac wrote: »

did you do a scan for them?

Yes.
There are many threads on DS lamenting the fact of their absence,including replies from BBC interactive promising their inclusion in the future.

John mac · 15-01-2010 5:25pm

elsie1b wrote: »

Yes.
There are many threads on DS lamenting the fact of their absence,including replies from BBC interactive promising their inclusion in the future.

11.954 H 27500 2/3
12.441 V 27500 2/3
12.441 V 27500 2/3

can you manually add the above ?

I havn't got one so i dont know ..

Just checked and can confirm they are working on an Mvision combo

FRIENDO · 15-01-2010 5:34pm

Stream 2 - Stream 6 on Fortec star Box 12441 V 27500.
Entered code in manual search in Sat4free and Freesat HDR
Result "No Channels"

Satdog · 18-01-2010 11:55am

elsie1b wrote: »

Streams 0 to 8 do not appear as individual channels on a humax foxsat hd receiver in non-freesat mode.
What brand of freesat receiver are you using ?

I have them on an SL35 and they are still available as I checked last night. I also have a Humax Foxsat HD. I have most of the channels deleted in non-Freesat mode on the Humax as I rarely use it in that mode. When I get a chance I'll do a rescan. Don't see any reason why they shouldn't appear on the Humax because in non-freesat mode it picks up everything - AFAIK.

mike65 · 18-01-2010 12:25pm

BBCi chappy on digitalspy thread

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/

elsie1b · 19-01-2010 9:52am

Satdog wrote: »

I have them on an SL35 and they are still available as I checked last night. I also have a Humax Foxsat HD. I have most of the channels deleted in non-Freesat mode on the Humax as I rarely use it in that mode. When I get a chance I'll do a rescan. Don't see any reason why they shouldn't appear on the Humax because in non-freesat mode it picks up everything - AFAIK.

Listen,
If you can pick up all the interactive bbc red streams on a freesat box,perhaps you could relay to humax and bbc interactive how you achieved it.
You'll save them a lot of effort and time...

Satdog · 19-01-2010 10:57am

elsie1b wrote: »

Listen,
If you can pick up all the interactive bbc red streams on a freesat box,perhaps you could relay to humax and bbc interactive how you achieved it.
You'll save them a lot of effort and time...

I never said that I could get the BBC interactive streams on the Humax. I do however on the SL35. I don't use the Humax much in non-Freesat and I have most of the channels deleted in that mode. I did a full rescan in non-Freesat mode last night and yes the BBC interactive streams didn't download.:( I don't know why there is a block on them on the Humax. Scanning in non-Freesat mode in theory should download all available channels including the BBC Streams. Every other bit of rubbish is downloaded.

elsie1b · 19-01-2010 11:12am

Satdog wrote: »

I never said that I could get the BBC interactive streams on the Humax. I do however on the SL35. I don't use the Humax much in non-Freesat and I have most of the channels deleted in that mode. I did a full rescan in non-Freesat mode last night and yes the BBC interactive streams didn't download.:( I don't know why there is a block on them on the Humax. Scanning in non-Freesat mode in theory should download all available channels including the BBC Streams. Every other bit of rubbish is downloaded.

Always seemed strange to me that the bbc and freesat would have released their boxes onto the market without this problem corrected.They (bbc interactive) have also had two years to fix this glitch.
In this time sky and other fta boxes have been able to receive the full complement of red button features,making freesat boxes seem flawed and ill conceived.
BBC should double their efforts to fix this situation.

IteractivTV oN Freesat

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