Rat Shot For .22lr

fiestaman

I have a few rats to shhot for a guy in his back yard and i was thinking of getting the rat shot for the job.i got .22shorts and they wont group at all even at 20yrds there only within 2''. Anyway what i need to know would the ratshot be bad for the barrell,i dont think i would be firing many of them but im just abit worried,i dont want to reck me nice CZ Style. What range can you expect i was hoping 10-15yrds.

CJhaughey

fiestaman wrote: »

I have a few rats to shhot for a guy in his back yard and i was thinking of getting the rat shot for the job.i got .22shorts and they wont group at all even at 20yrds there only within 2''. Anyway what i need to know would the ratshot be bad for the barrell,i dont think i would be firing many of them but im just abit worried,i dont want to reck me nice CZ Style. What range can you expect i was hoping 10-15yrds.

That stuff patterns badly out of a rifled barrel, you get a donut pattern.
I use Winchester super-x subs for rats at 15m you should be bang on as long as you allow for scope height at that range.

dicky82

dont suppose your anywhere near dublin? im training my jacker on the rats. . hes grand at nailing the small onese running from my cage trap. a few big fellas in a yard would be the next step. . .;)

fiestaman

dicky82 wrote: »

dont suppose your anywhere near dublin? im training my jacker on the rats. . hes grand at nailing the small onese running from my cage trap. a few big fellas in a yard would be the next step. . .;)

im not no. sorry

fiestaman

CJhaughey wrote: »

That stuff patterns badly out of a rifled barrel, you get a donut pattern.
I use Winchester super-x subs for rats at 15m you should be bang on as long as you allow for scope height at that range.

mmm thought that. i was afraid to use subs at this distance 20-30yrds,what about ricoshea

dicky82

no bother, rats arent exactly an endangered species. hahaha thanks all the same

lucy333springer

fiestaman wrote: »

mmm thought that. i was afraid to use subs at this distance 20-30yrds,what about ricoshea

Fiesta,
Buy some CB Long's, they are a bullet that shoot's
half the speed of sub's, they are known to be the bullet
for squrriel's high on a tree, no speed or hitting force after
35 meter's, super round for your job, slan, 333.

CJhaughey

Hard to find those ceebee rounds though Lucy, never seen them in the flesh myself.
[mod edit: er no, let's not tell folks to modify bullets that way please, if it went wrong it'd be hideously bad]
Are you shooting at concrete? what kind of backstop?

lucy333springer

[mod edit: er no, let's not tell folks to modify bullets that way please, if it went wrong it'd be hideously bad]
Are you shooting at concrete? what kind of backstop?[/quote]

Sparky,
I shoot these CB Long's at crow's eating bread I'v
left in the back garden, the back drop is a stone wall
about 30 feet away, with no wizzing bullet's, only dead crow's
or a flat piece of lead at the wall, slan, 333.

Sparks

Lucy, it wasn't CBs that CJH was talking about there.

lucy333springer

CJhaughey wrote: »

Hard to find those ceebee rounds though Lucy, never seen them in the flesh myself.


Am I missing something

Sparks

Yes, the part I edited out where he was talking about modifying .22lr rounds.

happyjack

CJhaughey wrote: »

That stuff patterns badly out of a rifled barrel, you get a donut pattern.
I use Winchester super-x subs for rats at 15m you should be bang on as long as you allow for scope height at that range.

I've used 40 grain hollow point winchester sub sonics on rats and their a great killer, those wee point twenty two shot shells are ****e, the shot size is tiny, found them really disapointing, I've used CB longs from CCI to and they are accurate but dont expand, so they put 5.5mm holes in and out of the rats, not killing them very fast, a twelve gauge shotgun is great on rats to, I used a 410 years ago with a silencer on rats and it was ok, but ammo is just far to expensive which is a shame.

I'd go with the winchest sib sonics, get a alarm light, you know one that comes on when their movement the rats get used to it after couplke of weeks, and it will let you know when they are their easy, lamping is good to, oh theirs nothing as much fun as shooting rats.

Good hunting


HJ:)

fiestaman

lucy333springer wrote: »

Fiesta,
Buy some CB Long's, they are a bullet that shoot's
half the speed of sub's, they are known to be the bullet
for squrriel's high on a tree, no speed or hitting force after
35 meter's, super round for your job, slan, 333.

Thanks lucy,where can i find CB Longs?? Are they good for killing?

jwshooter

lucy333springer wrote: »

[mod edit: er no, let's not tell folks to modify bullets that way please, if it went wrong it'd be hideously bad]
Are you shooting at concrete? what kind of backstop?

Sparky,
I shoot these CB Long's at crow's eating bread I'v
left in the back garden, the back drop is a stone wall
about 30 feet away, with no wizzing bullet's, only dead crow's
or a flat piece of lead at the wall, slan, 333.[/QUOTE]

you are joking right ,you feed starving crows into a garden to shoot them .

your shooting them at less than 10 yards with a .22.

the less said the better .

lucy333springer

Fiesta,
Don't know we're your at, but I get them in Anderson's Omagh,
@ £4.50 for 100, great wee killing low powered low noise
.22 bullet @ only 700fps, also known as YARD AMMO,
no more powerful than an air rifle, some folk only think they
know their caliber's, weight, distance, diameter, sshhhh say
no more, slan, 333.

jwshooter

iv used them to shoot farm yard pigeons in and around sheds .

there terrible for ricochets ,as there fairly hard lead in them.i think some one pointed out that they dont expand well.

i had to look up this .

the rws 16.1grs will give you 959fps with 32.9ft/lb making it very capable .

they can be still travel at over 600/fps and have 27/lbs of enegry at (50 )yards. depending on grain weight. now that would hurt.

kakashka

Hard lead??
Expansion would be minimal at that velocity anyway,depending what you hit
Hurt?tink he's shooting crows.

Sparks

kakashka wrote: »

Hard lead?

Very very few bullets are pure lead, they're usually a lead alloy or lead with additives. Changing those additives changes the hardness, as will the method used to form the bullet or pellet (some methods can set up a kind of 'skin' on the metal that increases surface hardness).

sfakiaman

Sparks wrote: »

Very very few bullets are pure lead, they're usually a lead alloy or lead with additives. Changing those additives changes the hardness, as will the method used to form the bullet or pellet (some methods can set up a kind of 'skin' on the metal that increases surface hardness).

I saw a program on TV about ballistics a year or two ago. It showed bullets being made and most of the lead was actually from scrap car batteries.

CJhaughey

Antimony is commonly used as a hardening agent in lead. Look it up, it is pretty poisonous stuff, even compared with lead.
I have done a fair bit of casting but would never use battery lead, it is toxic stuff, I guess the big bullet companies can deal with it but not recommended for joe soap casting at home.

sfakiaman

sfakiaman wrote: »

I saw a program on TV about ballistics a year or two ago. It showed bullets being made and most of the lead was actually from scrap car batteries.

I think the company was Speer, the quantity they were making was awsome.

lucy333springer

jwshooter wrote: »

iv used them to shoot farm yard pigeons in and around sheds .

there terrible for ricochets ,as there fairly hard lead in them.i think some one pointed out that they dont expand well.

i had to look up this .

the rws 16.1grs will give you 959fps with 32.9ft/lb making it very capable .

they can be still travel at over 600/fps and have 27/lbs of enegry at (50 )yards. depending on grain weight. now that would hurt.

CB Long's 29 grain, muzzle speed 565fps, and 14ft/lb,
air rifle stuff, primer only no gunpowder, boy scout's stuff,
take heed, please.

jwshooter

air rifle stuff ? . iv a .177 iv shot and killed pigeons with at at 40 + yards .its older than im am a BSA with open sights.

complacence breeds contempt .

kakashka

jwshooter wrote: »

air rifle stuff ? . iv a .177 iv shot and killed pigeons with at at 40 + yards .its older than im am a BSA with open sights.

complacence breeds contempt .

Hope you have a licence for that JWya:D

fiestaman

i found remington .22 short and there accurate as hell, there powerfull enough 925fps with a solid 29grain bullet,just in case anybody else is looking for somthing like this i can let you kno where to buy them. 35yrds group no bigger than €1 coin.