€160 to watch what on TV?

sold

Well its that Time again, To fork out the 160 euros. I suppose there are those who like RTE1&2 and TG4, but if you are like me and work most of the week it seems a waste. I'm not going to get rid of the TV as we watch the news on it, but thats about all (and the odd movie) Are there any good programmes on RTE to watch? How is it that TV3 can stay in business without the Licence fee? would it not be better to have free market decide?. in Uk the BCC has no adds and better programming.

Biggins

Welcome to RTE - if you like it or not, your paying for it!

Personally, I think RTE sucks BIG time.

Mr. CooL ICE

sold wrote: »

the BCC has no adds and better programming.

The UK has over 11 times more people to pay the fee. 11 times the fee = 11 times the quality

Alvar

RTE is bad. But TG4???!?!! Does anyone watch it?

anniehoo

Pay it by direct debit ..€13/mth..doesnt seem as bad then Still sickening though!

admiralofthefleet

pat kenny

Mike 1972

LordChessington wrote: »

The UK has over 11 times more people to pay the fee. 11 times the fee = 11 times the quality

The UK licence fee isint €1760 or anything like it. Ther rest of your post suggests Ireland should never have left the UK.

FearDark

The Panel.
Dave McSavages show.
The Late Late.
Fair City.
etc etc...














All SHIT

Biggins

Alvar wrote: »

RTE is bad. But TG4???!?!! Does anyone watch it?

Ask this lot: http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055793871

Me? I have never watched anything on that station.
Might as well be a blank screen or a test card (I can hear the younger ones now going ""Whats a test card?" - I'm old ).

Guy:Incognito

Mike 1972 wrote: »

The UK licence fee isint €1760 or anything like it. Ther rest of your post suggests Ireland should never have left the UK.

He means they collect teh fee from 11 times as many people.:rolleyes:

thomond2006

Just avail of your "Squatter's Rights".

Liam Byrne

OP - can I ask if you pay for Sky ?

If so, why ?

I agree that RTE is not really worth €14 a month, but then neither is the amount of ****e that's usually on the non-FTA satellite channels.

Aidric

TV is shit 90% of the time but that 10% of quality keeps us coming back for more.

I dont agree with being forced to pay the license fee especially when RTE also advertise. I do watch some thing on RTE like the news, the champions league matches, the late late sometimes and a few other things. 160 looks like a lot but when compared to our sky bill which is 70 euro a month it doesn't look that bad I suppose.

Not paying the licence fee looks like the best option you would be very unlucky to get caught imo.

Shulgin

I watch a lot more bbc/c4 programming than RTE, Tv3 is the absolute pits though, I wouldnt watch RTE at all if it dropped to that standard. Commercial tv in general is very poor. Tv would be not watchable if the ITV/SKY model was only available.

I have a freesat box and an RTE antenna and everything I want to see is there.
The licence fee is high, but at least we get all of the beeb/uk stuff for free, so it all balances out.

Xluna

Never watch T.V. Hopefully I'll inconviniently "miss" Mr License man when he calls down.-again.

sold

anniehoo wrote: »

Pay it by direct debit ..€13/mth..doesnt seem as bad then Still sickening though!

But all I watch is 15 mins of news at 6 to 9pm. any maybe primetime the odd time. Thats it, To be honest what is there to see for those of us who work and get home a 6pm?

Fair city, They had it one twice today?! Wake up for work and all there is in the morning is teleshopping add for 1.5 HOURS!!! So it seems like my 160euros dosent go to getting value for money.

sold

Xluna wrote: »

Never watch T.V. Hopefully I'll inconviniently "miss" Mr License man when he calls down.-again.

I doubt it.

sold

Liam Byrne wrote: »

OP - can I ask if you pay for Sky ?

If so, why ?

I agree that RTE is not really worth €14 a month, but then neither is the amount of ****e that's usually on the non-FTA satellite channels.

I have a sky box and dish. Used to pay for it for 3 years. Then my wife and I said why are we paying for a service we hardly every used. So we canceled. But even if you cancel your subscription to sky there are still a lot of free channel on the sky box, BBC1,2,3,4 Ch4, 1TV, Channel 4 movies. ITV1,2,3,4. news, and others all free. and when I did pay for sky that was all we used!!!>

so as it stands all I pay now is the 160euros Irish Licence fee. thats it. and that is a waste.

My name is URL

Where do you put the money? I don't see a slot =/

anniehoo

sold wrote: »

But all I watch is 15 mins of news at 6 to 9pm. any maybe primetime the odd time. So it seems like my 160euros dosent go to getting value for money.

Well for that little amount of telly you watch..then definitely its a complete waste. But regardless of how much or how little you watch it still has to be paid if you have a TV.

You'd be better off watching it online or listening to the news on the radio tbh.

plein de force

but without paying that we'd miss such jems as:

The All Ireland talent show
Oireachtas Report
Ear to the Ground
Endless repeats of Murder She Wrote


:rolleyes:

Mike 1972

Stekelly wrote: »

He means they collect teh fee from 11 times as many people.:rolleyes:

Should have said that then :P

Korvanica

Ah yea. Just do what i do... No tv, 23" monitor, rte player...... Awww yea....

Liam Byrne

sold wrote: »

But even if you cancel your subscription to sky there are still a lot of free channel on the sky box, BBC1,2,3,4 Ch4, 1TV, Channel 4 movies. ITV1,2,3,4. news, and others all free.

They're only "free" (to you) because someone else is paying for them.

sold wrote: »

and when I did pay for sky that was all we used!!!>

Not sure what you mean by that - you ignored all the "free" channels that you've listed above ?

sold wrote: »

so as it stands all I pay now is the 160euros Irish Licence fee. thats it. and that is a waste.

That allows you to own a TV, via which you can receive the "free" channels lke BBC1,2,3,4 etc.

If you're only watching 15 mins of news, then you have a point; it'd be a bit like owning a car and driving 5 miles a week. But if you're watching any of the above "free" channels, then that's what you're paying for.

I do think it's a disgrace that the licence doesn't cover having RTE free-to-air to Irish people on Sky, but unfortunately that's what happens when the monopoly is in another country.

And count yourself lucky, in a way......if you were in an apartment block you'd probably have no choice but to pay Chorus or Sky in order to get any decent signal.

I've said it before; once upon a time, the TV licence included soccer and rugby matches and a whole host of other stuff, but the powers-that-be decided that those could be paid for another way : allowing pay-tv to outbid RTE in a business model that involved you paying even more.

There's more choice now, admittedly, but the stuff that RTE used to provide for the licence fee was decent enough until Sky & Setanta and whoever else got in on the act.

Subscription TV should have been allowed offer EXTRA stuff (stuff that wasn't being shown) and should never have been allowed take from what we were already paying for and getting.

The Pontiac

sold wrote: »

Well its that Time again, To fork out the 160 euros. I suppose there are those who like RTE1&2 and TG4, but if you are like me and work most of the week it seems a waste. I'm not going to get rid of the TV as we watch the news on it, but thats about all (and the odd movie) Are there any good programmes on RTE to watch? How is it that TV3 can stay in business without the Licence fee? would it not be better to have free market decide?. in Uk the BCC has no adds and better programming.

I don't think the BBC has better sports coverage/analysis than RTE. In fact, I think RTE is the best channel for sport by a country mile. Sky have the live matches and the money behind them, but when it comes to actual analysis, then it's nonexistent really. You could clearly see how shocked Graham Souness was with the bluntness and honesty by RTE's soccer commentary when he started here first.

Most countries have a licence fee anyway, and the ones that don't receive funding from the government. Some countries also have radio licence fee eg. Denmark's have a TV licence of €288 and a Radio licence fee of €43.

RTE bashing is as old as the hills anyway. RTE were the first station in Europe to start showing The Sopranos. I remember the series would be over here and just starting in the UK. We don't have a fraction of the budget the BBC has, but bar Top Gear (which has an astronomical budget) and the axed Friday Night with Jonathan Ross (€6 a year salary), I think we compete very well for such a small country.

Herb Powell

Alvar wrote: »

RTE is bad. But TG4???!?!! Does anyone watch it?

TG4 is better than RTE

Biggins

I know of a good few places that are paying for RTE twice.
Places where ariels are not able to be put up - so folk have to pay for the likes of SKY (etc) just to get RTE and the basic channels. Then they have to pay for the Licence fee for RTE on top of that again.

That to me is a rip-off in this day and age.
(paying twice over for the same stuff!)

My name is URL

Korvanica wrote: »

Ah yea. Just do what i do... No tv, 23" monitor, rte player...... Awww yea....

RTE & the government believe that the software they use is an "apparatus capable of exhibiting television broadcasting" and that needs to be licensed :rolleyes:

under 'part 9'

Korvanica

My name is URL wrote: »

RTE & the government believe that the software they use is an "apparatus capable of exhibiting television broadcasting" and that needs to be licensed :rolleyes:

under 'part 9'

Damn it! I spent ages looking into if i needed one, even asked on here, ah well.

Im paying in 1c coins.

Alun

My name is URL wrote: »

RTE & the government believe that the software they use is an "apparatus capable of exhibiting television broadcasting" and that needs to be licensed :rolleyes:

under 'part 9'

In Germany they think the same.

DanGlee

If you bought a massive 32" monitor and had good Broadband that cold stream TV from BBCi Player (and before a smart ass chirps in, you could spoof your IP address! ) and maybe Hulu and many other internet channels, football, everything. You might need a few quid for subscriptions, but it would be cheaper than TV Licence / Sky / NTL etc.

Technically you don't have a TV licence?


Actually, on that note... here is a ponder on the same lines. I have a monitor with built in freeview (which is not available in Ireland) if that would my only display, would I need a TV licence for that?

DiarmaidGNR

LordChessington wrote: »

The UK has over 11 times more people to pay the fee. 11 times the fee = 11 times the quality

BBC also have many more channels as well as more radio stations, RTE gets money from ads and from the government as well. RTE is another bloated piece of ****, - like aer lingus and leinster house. If TV3 can do it, - why can't RTE?

Guy:Incognito

DiarmaidGNR wrote: »

BBC also have many more channels as well as more radio stations, RTE gets money from ads and from the government as well. RTE is another bloated piece of ****, - like aer lingus and leinster house. If TV3 can do it, - why can't RTE?

BBC gets revenue from ads too, just not on BBC 1,2,3 and 4 television.

Mike 1972

DanGlee wrote: »

Actually, on that note... here is a ponder on the same lines. I have a monitor with built in freeview (which is not available in Ireland) if that would my only display, would I need a TV licence for that?

Daft as it sounds yes you would.

Freeview is available in some Border areas and parts of the East coast

DanGlee

Freeview is available in some Border areas and parts of the East coast

Actually, I heard a little while back that it was coming to the whole of Ireland, but that could have been before Freesat?

Its kind of a balls that if you can't get freeview (if you live at the far south, then you still have to pay for a TV licence.

DonkeyStyle \o/

My name is URL wrote: »

RTE & the government believe that the software they use is an "apparatus capable of exhibiting television broadcasting" and that needs to be licensed :rolleyes:

Anyone with a device capable of receiving videos of me dancing around, singing into a hairbrush on youtube needs to pay their fair share of my expenses.
Oh wait, I'm not the government

mikom

My name is URL wrote: »

an "apparatus capable of exhibiting television broadcasting" and that needs to be licensed

Gonna need a licence for my mirror as well so.

HardyEustace

I think it's the fact that it's used to pay the likes of Pat Kenny, Joeeeeeeee Duffy and Gerry Ryan <<pause while I suck back the bile from my throat> vastly over-inflated salaries.

Who decided they were worth > 800,000 / year EXACTLY?

WIZE

How to I setup to pay for my Licence monthly

mikom

Most Haunted wrote: »

How to I setup to pay for my Licence monthly

Drop trousers..... bend over......... await Kenny, Ryan, Shortt, etc.
Rinse... repeat.

bonerm

DiarmaidGNR wrote: »

BBC also have many more channels as well as more radio stations, RTE gets money from ads and from the government as well. RTE is another bloated piece of ****, - like aer lingus and leinster house. If TV3 can do it, - why can't RTE?

BBC also has to appeal to more demographic groups due to having a greater cultural diversity. Judging by their output RTE seems to be only obliged to make programmes for the middle-aged-middle-class and single unmarried idiots in thier late 20's who'll laugh at any old shíte on a weeknight?

BTW I think the reason so many people resent paying the licence (other than the fact that RTE produce wall-to-wall rubbish) is that the station is inevitably compared to BBC (which is undeniably the best broadcasting service in the world). RTE can never win in that situation. It's like LeagueOfIreland football vs the Premiership.

WIZE

mikom wrote: »

Drop trousers..... bend over......... await Kenny, Ryan, Shortt, etc.
Rinse... repeat.

I didn't ask you what your doing right now .

mikom

mikom wrote: »

Drop trousers..... bend over......... await Kenny, Ryan, Shortt, etc.
Rinse... repeat.

Most Haunted wrote: »

I didn't ask you what your doing right now .

Close............. but today happens to be a skirt day.

Overature

do you not want to watch Operation Transformation that started tonight on rte 1 about fat people losing weight?

El Weirdo

<Ollie> wrote: »

... and the axed Friday Night with Jonathan Ross (€6 a year salary), I think we compete very well for such a small country.

No wonder Wossy told the Beeb to fuck off then. Surely he could demand a higher salary elsewhere.

Biggins

Overature wrote: »

do you not want to watch Operation Transformation that started tonight on rte 1 about fat people losing weight?

LOL My wife is on that!
She loses weight on it and I lose weight in my wallet paying for it!
Go figure!

Mike 1972

DanGlee wrote: »

Its kind of a balls that if you can't get freeview (if you live at the far south, then you still have to pay for a TV licence.

Even if one lives in a part of the country which cant even get a terrestrial signal from RTE they are still liable for the licence fee if they own a TV set (or TV enabled device)

My name is URL

Biggins wrote: »

LOL My wife is on that!
She loses weight on it and I lose weight in my wallet paying for it!
Go figure!

Oh Biggins, what mischief will you get up to next?!

ScumLord

LordChessington wrote: »

The UK has over 11 times more people to pay the fee. 11 times the fee = 11 times the quality

It's this kind of attitude that's ruining this country, more money doesn't automatically make things better. Throwing more money at the hospitals wont fix bad management and throwing more money at a tv show won't make up for complete incompetence in every other area.

sold wrote: »

But all I watch is 15 mins of news at 6 to 9pm. any maybe primetime the odd time. Thats it, To be honest what is there to see for those of us who work and get home a 6pm?

It is foolish to be paying for something you rarely use. Anything worth watching on RTE can be seen on the RTE player without paying the TV licence. There are other legal ways of getting tv shows, I watch channel4, completely legally on their website, the RTE player and blinkbox.com, they're still not up to the standards of some illegal sites that use divx but I don't really miss anything and I don't have to sit through crap just because there's nothing else on.

Biggins

My name is URL wrote: »

Oh Biggins, what mischief will you get up to next?!

LOL Me? Wot about my wife!
She's taken up a course of pole dancing in order to lose weight for the programme! :eek:
Seriously!

(I'm paying for that as well but I hope to gain from it too )