mike brewer!!!!!

jimmyw

Just looking at" wheeler dealers" on disc realtime +1 and cant believe what MB done with the porsche 944. While showing Edd the car, he started the car and revved it up and then shut it off straight away :mad:................with a TURBO!!.Does this fella know anything about cars?!!!.Never do that with a turbo MIKE:(:confused:

carchaeologist

Mike Brewer is a bit of a clown IMO.

Max_Damage

Edd China on the other hand makes great mad 'cars'!

mike65

He's a geezer, a bit woo, a bit wayyy. Yaknowwarrralmean?

jimmyw

Ah jaysus!! look at those silly orange wheels:eek::D

alpina

Well for a 'Wheeler Dealer', which he reminds us of every 5 min. he can't barter/bargain for crap! No matter what car, "I've sold loads of these"
Muppet.:rolleyes:

jimmyw

alpina wrote: »

Well for a 'Wheeler Dealer', which he reminds us of every 5 min. he can't barter/bargain for crap! No matter what car, "I've sold loads of these"
Muppet.:rolleyes:

"Why do people always do this"about people bidding too low a price As if he would not do that!!!!!!:mad:

unkel

Ah don't be too harsh on the lad. He's a bit of a chancer - a bit like Del Boy even

Don't tell me the world of second hand car dealers isn't full of types like him. At least he made it onto the telly

Saab Ed

Did someone say used car dealer !!!!!!

Dades

jimmyw wrote: »

Ah jaysus!! look at those silly orange wheels:eek::D

Didn't they ditch the orange wheels in that episode?

Tomebagel

''hold out your hand'':rolleyes:

franksm

"Ed..."
<falls over backwards>
"... you've done it again. I am... speechless"
<and he clearly isn't>

And my other favourite, when he was talking about Porsche 928s or something: "I have an infinity with these cars. Cracking motahs"

But I have learned a lot from watching Mr. Ed go to work, I must say.

bijapos

It's almost reality TV, has to be taken with a pinch of salt. I find it quite OK though and have watched a fair few of them on youtube.

Agree with franksm, I've learnt a fair bit from watching Mr China so for me its a worthwhile programme.

chiefwiggum

i enjoy it i have to say...and learn stuff...mike likes to play up to the camera thats all...

macplaxton

I'm gonna have to get a bigger telly. That pie lord Brewer gets bigger every series :pac:

carchaeologist

macplaxton wrote: »

I'm gonna have to get a bigger telly. That pie lord Brewer gets bigger every series :pac:

Funny you should say,he looked huge at the Classic Motor Show,and on all the cartoon pics of him on the merchandise he was all slimmed down.
Edd China is entertaining alright,in a very easygoing way.

unfit2006

Classic Mike Brewer gaffs:

1. Porshce 928 episode - Mike thinks he got a great deal swapping his BBS Rs's for a crappy set of kerbed teledials. His BBS worth about €1200, the teledials not even worth €150.

2. Golf Mk1 episode - body stripe put on upside down.

However, I still reckon it's an entertaining show overall and is a positive contribution to the classic car scene.

I PAINT CARS

jimmyw wrote: »

Just looking at" wheeler dealers" on disc realtime +1 and cant believe what MB done with the porsche 944. While showing Edd the car, he started the car and revved it up and then shut it off straight away :mad:................with a TURBO!!.Does this fella know anything about cars?!!!.Never do that with a turbo MIKE:(:confused:

Mike obviously knows a thing or two about these cars. As the owner of an 89 944 turbo myself, I can tell you that on the 944 turbo water is circulated through the turbo for a short period after switching off the ignition....it was a safeguard that porsche used on these cars to prevent the turbo from cooking the oil after shutdown.

voxpop

Wasnt that 928 up on ebay a while back. They do a decent job most of the time although Im not sure about the Ed China spray can paint jobs - you never seem to get a close up on them.


So Jimmyw hates chop shop and wheeler dealer - what next in the crosshairs jimmyw

Dades

voxpop wrote: »

Wasnt that 928 up on ebay a while back.

Someone here bought it!

Think it was back on the market again last year, though.

voxpop

Dades wrote: »

Someone here bought it!

Think it was back on the market again last year, though.

I though that but wasnt sure - must be a dud if it doing the rounds

unfit2006

voxpop wrote: »

Wasnt that 928 up on ebay a while back. They do a decent job most of the time although Im not sure about the Ed China spray can paint jobs - you never seem to get a close up on them.

The paint-can job on the metallic blue Capri was rough. . I can understand using the spray can for primer alright. (saves dirtying the gun), but you would imagine that you would get a better finish coat getting 1/8th of litre of paint mixed up for you and putting it on with the gun.

carchaeologist

I PAINT CARS wrote: »

Mike obviously knows a thing or two about these cars. As the owner of an 89 944 turbo myself, I can tell you that on the 944 turbo the oil is circulated through the turbo for a short period after switching off the ignition....it was a safeguard that porsche used on these cars to prevent the turbo from cooking the oil after shutdown.

How is this done?Is the engine on a turbo timer like alot of modern cars?

jimmyw

voxpop wrote: »

Wasnt that 928 up on ebay a while back. They do a decent job most of the time although Im not sure about the Ed China spray can paint jobs - you never seem to get a close up on them.


So Jimmyw hates chop shop and wheeler dealer - what next in the crosshairs jimmyw

No quite the opposite in fact. The two shows are good, but MB can a bit of a t*t sometimes. Bernie and leepu are a class act:).(Dont know about the cars though:rolleyes:)

I PAINT CARS

carchaeologist wrote: »

How is this done?Is the engine on a turbo timer like alot of modern cars?

Water is still pumped through the turbocharger via an electric water pump for 30 secs after shutdown ( or whenever normal operating temps are reached whichever first ) to prevent the oil from coking up or ' Cooking ' thus preventing damage to the balance shaft and or blocking the oilways.

alpina

Mike Brewer/Ed China...they're entertainers & such is fine. My gripe with the show is the false impression it gives many first time 'classic restorers' a false sense of reality. They buy a car for X, sell it for X plus a few bob, & there's a profit. There is no monetary value put on Ed's time/labour, which you or I would have to pay for, no garage is going to do any of us a favour of back to bare metal respray for £1, 000 or be lucky to come across a donor car for £350 with pristine leather int. unmarked alloys etc. Yes I understand the concept of the show, 'saving classic cars from the wrecker', but not very realistic for a budding restorer... I still watch every episode & thoroughy enjoy it however:o

niceirishfella

I like the shows - its popcorn telly.
Crack open a beer,sit back and just watch - never mind getting bogged down in the micro of it all, they're just entertainers!
Is there anycars they've missed, like they did the mini twice now??

VolvoMan

niceirishfella wrote: »

Is there anycars they've missed, like they did the mini twice now??

There's loads of Volvo's they could do like the 850 T-5 or R. They have instead chose to repeat themselves by doing both a Beetle and a Mini twice.

Whosbetter?

voxpop wrote: »

So Jimmyw hates chop shop and wheeler dealer - what next in the crosshairs jimmyw

I'd watch Wheeler Dealers all day long & have done so in the past!

Chop Shop is a diff story.

I watched the one where they tried to recreate the Rover gas turbine car for Jools Holland.

For background, they visited Spen King, a designer, who was directly involved in the original project with Rover, back in the old days.

King, who directly had a hand in the development in the P6, Range Rover, SD1, etc., was very polite courteious & sympathetic to what they were doing untill............

he discovered they had decided to put a Jaguar powerplant into the engine-bay.:eek:

All of a sudden, he, a very old distinguished polite & well respected pillar of British enginreering, turned into a foul mouthed foaming ball of anger!

Basicly, he told the team what he thought of them & what they proposed to do & ordered them to remove themselves from his house pronto!!!!!!

Great to see the passion that the men behind the cars we love is still there.

Hee Hee, Classic! :D:D

B11gt00e

Mike and Ed. Could and have watched them all day. Super lads. Sure TV is a bit tacky sometimes, and repetitive when they have a formula, but Ed is a mechanic extraordinaire and Mike is an honest guy who fixes and passes on much improved motors for very little profit. Like the fella said in a post earlier, if you took Ed’s labour into account, you’d have to add some serious bread to the selling prices.
Two S:)LID lads in my opinion. The Show is stretttttttttttttched out a bit, and if you watch in on Youtube, you can get a good jist as well as the full overview of the overhaul from watching the synopsis on what they did from the show’s conclusion. The production company drags each episode out a little too much is all.
I would never have a bad word about any of them. You can learn so much from their show and I’ve never seen them trying to skimp on a car or forgo any work that would render the car in dodgy in any way before selling it on. ..
I wish I knew Ed China as a mate and mechanic and if all salesmen had the characteristics and truthful integrity of Mike (He always tells the buyers what he’s had done to the car and plays up his FastShow type Geezer image for the camera, as its part of the show’s signature).
You have to enjoy how Mike adores certain cars and gets excited when he gets to take them for a spin after they’ve tightened and tidied them up. Even better, he enjoys the old cars before they've been tightened up and has an EAGLE eye for picking out the base car with the most potential for Ed to go to work on.

Mike Brewer and Tiff Needell always make me feel the experience of the car their driving via their enjoyment of the drive and how they use their personality to get that across to the audience via the camera. I reckon its not easy and I say fair play to them for entertaining.
As for their more famous counterparts at topgear... I reckon Clarkson was playing the opposite of the Geezer during his early days in Top Gear as he tried to come across as being a real Toff.

f4fay

voxpop wrote: »

I though that but wasnt sure - must be a dud if it doing the rounds

A very good friend of mine purchased that 928 in the UK and it certanley was not a dud.....Wheeler Dealers spent a five figure sum on that car even though i think they said 4k on the telly. It is probably one of the best 30 year old 928's around and i would have purchased it from my mate only i've too many cars.I would also like to add just because a car is for sale it does not mean there is something wrong with it..... or as you say it's a.... "DUD"..... !

carlosfandango

Thanks F4fay.
Yes, I did indeed buy that 928 and owned it for all to brief a period of time. It's now with a new owner who loves the car.
Nope, it wasn't a "dud" as might have been suggested earlier, in fact it was an amazing car and I really do miss it! I doubt I'll be able to find another from the era in as good condition.
I didn't buy it off eBay, don't recall it ever being on eBay but I could be wrong there.. I bought it from a man in the UK - never even met him or saw the car, I had it shipped to Dublin and my first time seeing it in the flesh as it were, was driving it off the transporter. I had done all of the research, including contacting the Wheeler Dealers team so knew I was getting a good car. They were quite helpful & the records they provided were kept with the car when I sold it.
I wouldn't have sold it at all (to a fellow forum member on Octane) only my circumstances changed. I'd say he'll be keeping it for a long time, but if he does sell - I'll be first in the queue, followed by F4fay no doubt.

I like the show & think that Mike is a bit of a show man but I admire his enthusiasm for cars that I personally love.


CFD

unkel

Thanks for your backing up both your car and "Wheeler Dealers", CFD

Must say I was a bit surprised that you put it back up for sale so soon while presumably keeping both your 911 and 912? The latter would suggest the lack of power of the early 4.5 928 wouldn't have bothered you?

carlosfandango

Hi Unkel,
The earlier 4.5 V8's power, or lack of, didn't bother me in the slightest. In fact, I was very impressed with it. I had heard & read a lot of discussion about the reputation of the pace of the car but personally I didn't think it was underpowered.
I liked the fact that it was the early model, that's what I was looking for. I have a preference for the first generation models of classics. My Dino was a 2.0 & my 912 is a swb 4 speed etc..

I also sold the 911. To be honest I simply wasn't getting the use out of it & it seemed a shame to let such a beautiful car stand in the garage with a cover on it. A good friend of mine now owns it & he treats it with the same respect I did, but gets to use it a lot more. - he's even been out on a track day.

Sorry to wander off topic from the OP.

CFD

oflynno

hey,don't knock the programme

i watch it in the midst of the wife,she sees the cars at the start,and with a half hour of work they make a profit. . . . .

so then i convince her that buying cars and spending hours at them is well worth it........the only problem is,i hate selling them afterwards