Budget off €10000-€25000 tractor AND loader

John deere 6920

Im looking for tractor wit loader.. wit 120hp+ i wud like a john deere 6020 series from 02-03 6320-6920s... wit tls. power quad + and all that... Maybe bucket and grab wit it ... our own tractor is always giving trouble and its really annoying and costing us money to keep her...

massey 133

i am afraid with a buget of that you will only get a high hour reck. your will need to at least 35 000 for a good condition jd 20 series + loader

John deere 6920

massey 133 wrote: »

i am afraid with a buget of that you will only get a high hour reck. your will need to at least 35 000 for a good condition jd 20 series + loader

umm.... €35000 is nearly price for a 6330........ in england there john deeres for around 20-€25000

dasheriff

Well what would ye be mainly it for a 6920s is a very big tractor for yard and loader work if its just for general work you wud be better off with a 6410/20 no need to go any bigger and you might scrape 1 for ur budget..JDs are still making alot of money..

John deere 6920

dasheriff wrote: »

Well what would ye be mainly it for a 6920s is a very big tractor for yard and loader work if its just for general work you wud be better off with a 6410/20 no need to go any bigger and you might scrape 1 for ur budget..JDs are still making alot of money..

ya or a 6610 . i found one from farm power. all she needs is a loader..

dasheriff

Ya i know the one soood but keep in mind that a new loader will set you back about €6,000..

pajero12

John deere 6920 wrote: »

umm.... €35000 is nearly price for a 6330

No nearer to E50,000
http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/tractors/1069952

John deere 6920

dasheriff wrote: »

Ya i know the one soood but keep in mind that a new loader will set you back about €6,000..

Hmm thats for a very good loader thou? .. like a stroll.. maybe a second hand.....

John deere 6920

pajero12 wrote: »

No nearer to E50,000
http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/tractors/1069952

she is auto quad and is 09...... lol i dont want a brand new one... thank you

mossfort

what about this.
http://www.alexandertractors.com/ab-show.php?listid=126053001715610&page=3&category=&make=JOHN%20DEERE&model=%20[%20All%20Models%20]&yearlow=&yearhigh=&mileage=&pricelow=&pricehigh=&s=modelyear%20DESC&p=5
or this
http://www.alexandertractors.com/ab-show.php?listid=126147772331753&page=2&category=&make=JOHN%20DEERE&model=%20[%20All%20Models%20]&s=modelyear%20DESC&p=5

pajero12

Does it definately have to be a john deere?

John deere 6920

pajero12 wrote: »

Does it definately have to be a john deere?

well it dont have to be a john deere

vincenzolorenzo

A 4 cylinder tractor is a better job for loader work. 6 cylinder machine would be too big and awkward for yard work. JD 6410 would be a good yoke i reckon

John deere 6920

vincenzolorenzo wrote: »

A 4 cylinder tractor is a better job for loader work. 6 cylinder machine would be too big and awkward for yard work. JD 6410 would be a good yoke i reckon

thanks ya i guess 6410 wud be good.

dar31

whats with the john deere, your limiting your self to one of the most expensive brands of tractors, you would get more for your money if you forgot about the auld jds lovely as they are
as was already said, a 4 cylinder is best suited for loader work.
like the looks of the class lately
think they have a 120 +, 4 cylinder with high flow hydraulics ideal for loader, heavy back end as well. uncle has one for farm and contract fencing done a lot of motor way stuff. seems to be very happy with it reminds me a lot of the jds
what happened to the zetor thought she was an animal:D

John deere 6920

dar31 wrote: »

whats with the john deere, your limiting your self to one of the most expensive brands of tractors, you would get more for your money if you forgot about the auld jds lovely as they are
as was already said, a 4 cylinder is best suited for loader work.
like the looks of the class lately
think they have a 120 +, 4 cylinder with high flow hydraulics ideal for loader, heavy back end as well. uncle has one for farm and contract fencing done a lot of motor way stuff. seems to be very happy with it reminds me a lot of the jds
what happened to the zetor thought she was an animal:D

ya our zetor is animal.. but our moffett wat a bitch............

dar31

John deere 6920 wrote: »

ya our zetor is animal.. but our moffett wat a bitch............

ya have one of them muppets know her inside out at this stage. missus rekons if she wins lotto she will buy me a new loading shovel

mossfort

have you given up the idea of buying your own silage machinery now?

John deere 6920

mossfort wrote: »

have you given up the idea of buying your own silage machinery now?

went ta bank.. i cant atm ! money shortage as the bank say.....

John deere 6920

dar31 wrote: »

ya have one of them muppets know her inside out at this stage. missus rekons if she wins lotto she will buy me a new loading shovel

i love the tractor but is very unreliable........... compared to anything.. our zetor on the other hand then is our most reliable tractor i have ever seen or heard....

dar31

John deere 6920 wrote: »

i love the tractor but is very unreliable........... compared to anything.. our zetor on the other hand then is our most reliable tractor i have ever seen or heard....

which version of the muppet have ye got

John deere 6920

dar31 wrote: »

which version of the muppet have ye got

moffett we got is the massey model based on the massey 390T isnt it.. the newer ones is ford 7840..

dasheriff

You should also look at the smaller valtra tractors they are as good as john deere but alot more affordable..
A massey 5455 or 5460 are also great tractors for loader work,they are very reliable and comfortable aswell.

John deere 6920

dasheriff wrote: »

You should also look at the smaller valtra tractors they are as good as john deere but alot more affordable..
A massey 5455 or 5460 are also great tractors for loader work,they are very reliable and comfortable aswell.

i found a massey 6290 wit loader for €18000........ very cheap horsepower.. ya massey ok

mossfort

the massey 5400 series are a bit soft in terms of build quality and way behind the 4200 series . their a bit lighter on diesel than the john deeres.

dasheriff

John deere 6920 wrote: »

i found a massey 6290 wit loader for €18000........ very cheap horsepower.. ya massey ok

Dat sounds laike a great bargain if in good condition definately worth giving a look at..

John deere 6920

dasheriff wrote: »

Dat sounds laike a great bargain if in good condition definately worth giving a look at..

ya she is in cork... +O loader and all...

John deere 6920

mossfort wrote: »

the massey 5400 series are a bit soft in terms of build quality and way behind the 4200 series . their a bit lighter on diesel than the john deeres.

i drove a 4255 massey she nice. i like the way u can adjust the clutchs respones.. and she good on loader. and has a 6ft shear grab =o massive...

dasheriff

John deere 6920 wrote: »

ya she is in cork... +O loader and all...

handy out is it private or a dealer?

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mossfort wrote: »

the massey 5400 series are a bit soft in terms of build quality and way behind the 4200 series . their a bit lighter on diesel than the john deeres.

really? we have a 00 reg 4245, we were thinking of trading it in for a 06-07 5445-5455. Love the 4245 though, great loader machine with the snoopy bonnet.

Bitten & Hisses

dar31 wrote: »

like the looks of the class lately
think they have a 120 +, 4 cylinder with high flow hydraulics ideal for loader, heavy back end as well. uncle has one for farm and contract fencing done a lot of motor way stuff. seems to be very happy with it reminds me a lot of the jds
what happened to the zetor thought she was an animal:D

Claas or Renaults have JD engines, and provide similar performance for much less money. I also prefer the transmission to the Deeres. There is serious value to be had if you buy in the Renault colours, especially if you go up North. Ashfield & Wilson or Erwins are both on the web and usually have decent stock, reasonably priced.

irish_bob

while JD is almost always my prefered tractor , i do like the claas and know severals with them who are more than happy , renault were a very good tractor and claas is a follow on from them , another tractor which would very much interest me were i to be in the market is a kubota , they are well priced ( no more dearer than a claas ) and when did the japaneese every make a dud

mossfort

steer clear of the claas celtis tractors . two neighbours of mine bought new celtis 456 tractors in 05 one guy only kept it for 6 months and lost thousands on a trade in against a john deere and the other guy still has his which needed a new tranmission sensor hydraulic pump new starter and it struggles to pull a 14 ton dump trailer.

mossfort

Nathaniel Plump Restaurant wrote: »

really? we have a 00 reg 4245, we were thinking of trading it in for a 06-07 5445-5455. Love the 4245 though, great loader machine with the snoopy bonnet.

the 4200 series were the last of the coventry built masseys and after that they were all made in france.

John deere 6920

some massey good. and more terrible not a fan off them.. put up maize pit wit a 6150 some yoke to push it..

corkcomp

John deere 6920 wrote: »

some massey good. and more terrible not a fan off them.. put up maize pit wit a 6150 some yoke to push it..

a 6180 or 6190 would be ideal for what ya need, as you would get one for reasonable money now as they are hitting 10 years old ..

Bitten & Hisses

mossfort wrote: »

steer clear of the claas celtis tractors . two neighbours of mine bought new celtis 456 tractors in 05 one guy only kept it for 6 months and lost thousands on a trade in against a john deere and the other guy still has his which needed a new tranmission sensor hydraulic pump new starter and it struggles to pull a 14 ton dump trailer.

Leaving aside the issues with the starter, pump and transmission sensor, I wouldn't be expecting a light tractor like a Celtis to fly away with a dump trailer. Nor would I be expecting a hectic trade in against a different brand on a 6-month old tractor, regardless of make. That said, I'd be recommending an Ares for the OP as being best suited to his needs.

mossfort

Bitten & Hisses wrote: »

Leaving aside the issues with the starter, pump and transmission sensor, I wouldn't be expecting a light tractor like a Celtis to fly away with a dump trailer. Nor would I be expecting a hectic trade in against a different brand on a 6-month old tractor, regardless of make. That said, I'd be recommending an Ares for the OP as being best suited to his needs.

i dont expect it to fly away with a dump trailer its 100hp and struggles to pull it in the field in 2nd gear. the dealer didnt even want to take it as a trade.
the claas ares are fine its just the celtis an old renault with a different badge.

deglance

what bout a case i have a case 4230 never gave me trouble, I would love a JD 6620 too dear though

Indubitable

irish_bob wrote: »

when did the japaneese every make a dud

Toyota accelerators.....

laurence997

mossfort wrote: »

the 4200 series were the last of the coventry built masseys and after that they were all made in france.

We have an 02 Massey 4370, built in Coventry, basically a slightly more modern 4200 series. Its given no trouble whatsoever in the 2/3 years we have it.:)
Its a bit long for use with a loader, esp. in a yard, as its a 6 cyl. A four cylinder would be much handier for turning tightly in a yard.
The newish Kubutos have a tight turning circle too but there aren't too many second hand ones about so they might be a bit expensive new. Back axel looks fairly light on the ones I've seen of them aswell.:(

ormondprop

did u look at any cases, my neighbour who we help out has a cs110, great tractor never gave any trouble and its a good few years old now

john 8530

dont waste your money buying the larger jdeere 6920 the chance of you getting a good one are zero .the people who bought them new have the life knocked out off them and probably have a lot of cheap bad repairs made to them. the back end of a jd 6920 is not up to the job for heavy work and the common rail is good when working right but pumps and ijector can be easly damaged with bad fuel.if you do buy one check the control units for trouble codes