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  • 10-01-2010 1:35pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 566 ✭✭✭


    Farm land sold. Between the solicitors, banks and other agents, there could be 2 months etc. before the new owner takes possesion. In the meantime, another "farmer" has run in cattle and sheep to graze all they can.

    This happens regularly in my area by the same "farmer".

    The practice is frowned upon by us decent living, hardworking folk but is it legally wrong?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭snowman707


    Best for the Vendor and buyer to discuss with their solicitors


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    open the gate and let them out - dont let any one see you doing it though:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,613 ✭✭✭✭Clare Bear


    That can't be right surely?

    If it isn't illegal it's still morally wrong. Maybe you should play him at his own game and let them out "by accident" Especially if this isn't the first time he's done it. Teach him a lesson.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 609 ✭✭✭mossfort


    if you let them out they are likely to cause an accident if they are let onto the road and its breaking the law.
    as snowman said better for the vendor and buyer to contact their solicitors about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 566 ✭✭✭westwicklow


    With scarce grazing, the "farmer" in question has made many enemies around West Wicklow and Kildare over the years and when challenged, he laughs that the seller has no right to stop him as he no longer owns the property and the buyer has no rights to stop him until all the paperwork has been done.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭mayoireland


    is there a animal compound down there ,it will cost the intruder alot of money to get them back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 566 ✭✭✭westwicklow


    Good suggestion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,339 ✭✭✭convert


    Would they be willing to do something about it or would they be too busy with this weather to worry about a few cattle in the wrong field?

    It's people like this who get farmers a bad name. Don't suppose anyone could put a lock the gate and stop this guy from getting his cattle out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 566 ✭✭✭westwicklow


    This isn't a recent development due to bad weather. It has been going on for ages.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 573 ✭✭✭MacGyver


    Do away with them and give us all free meat. if they're not on his land he's responsible for any damage done etc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,339 ✭✭✭convert


    What I meant was would they be willing to do anything at the moment, given the bad weather? Have they been contacted about this guy before? If it was a second or subsequent offence maybe they'd be quicker to do something than just leaving him continue this type of behaviour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭foundation10


    Department should be advised of this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    what about his sfp arent you suppose to have all the parcel numbers where you graze your cattle on it , perhaps ring the dept of ag and play dumb that these cattle are on your land and you dont know who owns them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,339 ✭✭✭convert


    Just thought - if you can get close enough to the cattle (or had a powerful pair of binoculars) you could get the farmer's code number off the tags and use it to report them to the department.

    Edit: just saw above posts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 531 ✭✭✭mylittlepony


    +1 to the post above by Whelan.

    Inform the buyer + seller of this and they can contact thier solictior and guards of trepassing.
    What if these animals are damaging property/fencing etc?
    Who gonna pay to fix it??

    Wow the cheek of this man :eek::mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 566 ✭✭✭westwicklow


    Clarification: this situation does not involve my lands. It has happened in my area. Has it happened anywhere else and if so, how was it sorted out?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,271 ✭✭✭irish_bob


    Farm land sold. Between the solicitors, banks and other agents, there could be 2 months etc. before the new owner takes possesion. In the meantime, another "farmer" has run in cattle and sheep to graze all they can.

    This happens regularly in my area by the same "farmer".

    The practice is frowned upon by us decent living, hardworking folk but is it legally wrong?

    if you ring the dept of agri and tell them you suspect the cattle or sheep have some high risk disease , hint at it , as far as i know they are obliged to do something and can impound the animals , dont let on you know who owns the cattle , in fact , better to suggest they are akin to stray dogs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,722 ✭✭✭maidhc


    Ring the dept of agriculture and explain the situation. All going "well" trucks should arrive within a day or two and the animals will quite possible be destroyed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭Pacoa


    Run 'em into a shed and ring the owner. Tell him they have water but you can't give 'em any feed cause your short yourself. See how long they'll remain there then. This is what we used to do when the neighbours cattle strayed in. They were usually gone within a few hours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭mayoireland


    If all comes to all you could do this


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  • Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Cut off the water (if it isn't already frozen)


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,286 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    Cut off the water (if it isn't already frozen)

    Inappropriate advice.
    Regardless of what the nature of the issue- cutting off the water would cause untold hardship for the animals.
    I'd echo the advise above and tip-off the Department and see what happens.


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