A test for those living by the sea

Just The One

Can anyone living by the sea do a test for me.

Can you go get a bucket of sea water this evening, throw it on a path and see if it freezes. Also, leave some in the bucket and see if it freezes.

I am trying to find out if the salt content is high enough to resist freezing and/or will it disolve frozen paths

epgc3fyqirnbsx

ooooohhhh, clever clogs

Diabhal Beag

I did the research for ya. I'm not arsed was the result

Cookie_Monster

water + sea salt = sea water

tommyhaas

It'l begin to freeze over again in about two hours

neil_hosey

with the water trying to freeze and the salt trying to melt it, im fairly sure it will just blow up.

Captain_Generic

I'm pretty sure if it does melt any of the water on the path the salt will get so diluted it will re-freeze in 20-30 minutes

admiralofthefleet

i live a few minutes from dollymount beach but i wont be arsed going down to 'experiment'

ScissorPaperRock

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

i live a few minutes from dollymount beach but i wont be arsed going down to 'experiment'

that's very interesting

Captain_Generic

ScissorPaperRoc wrote: »

that's very interesting

Good observation

Just The One

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

water + sea salt = sea water

yes but the ratio of water to salt will not be right

hobochris

Im near the sea but not arsed going down to the beach , getting a bucket or even leaving my apartment for that matter.

how about I get some tap water, throw a bit of salt in and spill a drop on my balcony?

neil_hosey

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

i live a few minutes from dollymount beach but i wont be arsed going down to 'experiment'

i hear alot fo 'expermenting' goes on down there..

neil_hosey

hobochris wrote: »

Im near the sea but not arsed going down to the beach , getting a bucket or even leaving my apartment for that matter.

how about I get some tap water, throw a bit of salt in and spill a drop on my balcony?

ye so how come you can drink water, and eat salt... but you cant drink salt water?

ScissorPaperRock

Captain_Generic wrote: »

Good observation

Thanks.

fikay

neil_hosey wrote: »

with the water trying to freeze and the salt trying to melt it, im fairly sure it will just blow up.

That pretty much made my day.

CountingCrows

Just The One wrote: »

I am trying to find out if the salt content is high enough to resist freezing and/or will it disolve frozen paths

What's your plan, once your armed with this knowledge?

CountingCrows

Pour a cup of water over a slug, if it dissolves immediately question answered and time saved.

Just The One

CountingCrows wrote: »

What's your plan, once your armed with this knowledge?

plan? get some and pour it on my driveway and immediate area

trad

Considering the Artic ice cap is frozen sea water what is the point?

ScissorPaperRock

trad wrote: »

Considering the Artic ice cap is frozen sea water what is the point?

Salt gets left behind when sea water freezes

Jello

Well considering I was in Kerry there last week and I saw the sea frozen over in places I doubt it would work!

Just The One

trad wrote: »

Considering the Artic ice cap is frozen sea water what is the point?

temperature is the point... the arctic ice cap is a lot colder than we are experiencing so it will freeze and we are not experiencing tghat sort of cold.

All sea water will freeze at a certain temp

Blisterman

Sea water freezes at about -2 degrees celcius.

So if the temperature is lower than that, the water will still freeze.

ScissorPaperRock

Jello wrote: »

Well considering I was in Kerry there last week and I saw the sea frozen over in places I doubt it would work!

That would be the best source for the test actually. When sea water freezes the remaining water is left with a higher salt content.

CountingCrows

Just The One wrote: »

plan? get some and pour it on my driveway and immediate area

Own a kettle?

My name is URL

I live near the sea.. there's iceberg like structures forming when the tide is out so the salt doesn't make a huge difference

neil_hosey

CountingCrows wrote: »

Own a kettle?

to clear your driveway??


ye mine just happens to hold about 20 gallons..

Cookie_Monster

Just The One wrote: »

yes but the ratio of water to salt will not be right

only if you mix it wrong

ScissorPaperRock

neil_hosey wrote: »

to clear your driveway??


ye mine just happens to hold about 20 gallons..

That must quite a long time to boil.

CountingCrows

neil_hosey wrote: »

to clear your driveway??
ye mine just happens to hold about 20 gallons..

Jesus, do people have to ring ahead if there calling over for a cup of tea?

Cookie_Monster

Blisterman wrote: »

Sea water freezes at about -2 degrees celcius.

So if the temperature is lower than that, the water will still freeze.

only if still

trad wrote: »

Considering the Artic ice cap is frozen sea water what is the point?

its fresh water actually

CianRyan

CountingCrows wrote: »

Own a kettle?

Hot water freezes a lot faster than cold water.

CountingCrows

CianRyan wrote: »

Hot water freezes a lot faster than cold water.

A bucket of boiling water will freeze before a bucket of cold water - were you home schooled?

McTigs

Galway docks is sea water and was frozen over this morning.


is that true about boiling water?

neil_hosey

CountingCrows wrote: »

Jesus, do people have to ring ahead if there calling over for a cup of tea?

It generally stays boiled.. ive a massive herbal tea addiction.

hobochris

neil_hosey wrote: »

ye so how come you can drink water, and eat salt... but you cant drink salt water?

Because dancing midgets said so. :rolleyes:

neil_hosey

hobochris wrote: »

Because dancing midgets said so. :rolleyes:

it wasnt this fella that told ye? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSJtvNZf5j0

hes a known chancer

captainspeckle

would in not just be easier to buy a bag or salt, rather than sea water?

neil_hosey

captainspeckle wrote: »

would in not just be easier to buy a bag or salt, rather than sea water?

we have no more salt!! i thought that was the problem? we are running out on sunday, and we have a weekend of snow... even though outside now theres blue skies and sun

ressem

Or a bag of sugar (needs lots though), or alcohol.

runnnerrr

The Crescent Quay in Wexford has a layer of ice across it today and it's sea water.

robtri

jesus just go down to tesco and buy a bag of dishwasher salt..... better than normal salt and tesco own brand is 1.25 for 3kg....... problem solved... without having to drive to the beach to get a bucket of fecking sea water...

KerranJast

neil_hosey wrote: »

ye so how come you can drink water, and eat salt... but you cant drink salt water?

Humans can't drink salt water because the kidneys can only make urine that is less salty than salt water. Therefore, to get rid of all the excess salt taken in by drinking salt water, you have to urinate more water than you drank, so you die of dehydration.

CianRyan

McTigs wrote: »

is that true about boiling water?

Get two trays of water; One cold, one boiling. Place them both in the freezer (or outside, I guess) and see which freezes first. Science says Boiling water will.

Also, the fun way of doing it.
Though, you do need -40c...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_ku3oY4hss

Instant snow.

jumpguy

OP this test can be done at home. Look up the average concentration of salt in sea water.

According to Wikipedia, it's 3.5% salt on average. 96.5% of the rest is water. So if you get 35 grams of salt and 965ml of water, mix them together and you have...salt water!!!

You can then do it yourself.

lightening

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

i live a few minutes from dollymount beach but i wont be arsed going down to 'experiment'

I think we are neighbours.

jester77

CianRyan wrote: »

Get two trays of water; One cold, one boiling. Place them both in the freezer (or outside, I guess) and see which boils first. Science says Boiling water will.

You've must have a magic freezer if the boiling water boils first!!

biko

Just The One wrote: »

Can anyone living by the sea do a test for me.

Can you go get a bucket of sea water this evening, throw it on a path and see if it freezes. Also, leave some in the bucket and see if it freezes.

I am trying to find out if the salt content is high enough to resist freezing and/or will it disolve frozen paths

http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&q=can+salt+water+freeze

neil_hosey

KerranJast wrote: »

Humans can't drink salt water because the kidneys can only make urine that is less salty than salt water. Therefore, to get rid of all the excess salt taken in by drinking salt water, you have to urinate more water than you drank, so you die of dehydration.

so piss is salty??

can we all just not piss in the streets for a few days?

jumpguy

neil_hosey wrote: »

so piss is salty??

can we all just not piss in the streets for a few days?

Yeah but we have to make sure we salt everything we eat and drink as little water as possible.

And then we'll all die of heart attacks.