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EEEKKK I wont ever eat burgers from the USA or in the USA

  • 06-01-2010 3:49pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭


    http://www.naturalnews.com/027872_ammonia_beef_products.html

    Its horrible in the USA under "licence " they allow to inject ammonia into the minced up beef mostly left over gunk on the factory floor to kill the bugs and then the feed it to the people in fast food burger chain shops.Worser still the ammonia doesnt even kill all the bugs.
    When they say to you they have a "licence "it doesnt ,mean that it is safe it just means they have a "licence " to the activity sorta like 007 a "licence " to kill the bit they dont tell you when they use the term "licence "
    I wonder what the European EU "licence "for beef is??:pac::pac:
    I will stick to big cuts of meat instead or get them to mince big chunks in front for me
    boards really needs a barf up smiley to say it properly ,Any good barf up smileys out there

    Derry


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    derry wrote: »
    I wonder what the European EU "licence "for beef is??:pac::pac:
    I will stick to big cuts of meat instead or get them to mince big chunks in front for me

    Derry
    I'd assume European standards are much higher which is why European farmers can't compete with other markets. Just about all Irish beef is organic when you compare the conditions they enjoy compared to other countries. Ireland is one of the only developed countries where a bull can still get the ride.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭General Zod



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    I won't believe a word from a site that advertises books like the above.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    feck that, if the burger tastes good then I'm happy, just no bloody gherkins in it please


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,945 ✭✭✭D-Generate


    Pffft, if its ammonia that is in a Double Double from In n' Out Burger then I demand we start injecting ammonia in to our burgers too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,320 ✭✭✭Teferi


    derry wrote: »
    Worser

    This made me check your post count. I was surprised to see you have several hundred posts.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    D-Generate wrote: »
    Pffft, if its ammonia that is in a Double Double from In n' Out Burger then I demand we start injecting ammonia in to our burgers too!
    In n' out Burger for the Fcuking win!!!

    Food in the US is so much nicer than here, IMO. Plus, I'm in no doubt that our food is full of sh!te as well, only they have a better health service with which to fix you up with when it tries to kill you. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,530 ✭✭✭dub_skav


    ScumLord wrote: »
    I'd assume European standards are much higher which is why European farmers can't compete with other markets. Just about all Irish beef is organic when you compare the conditions they enjoy compared to other countries. Ireland is one of the only developed countries where a bull can still get the ride.

    While I agree with you on the quality of european meat, beef production standards and beef usage standards are very different things.
    So while we may produce beef of a high and sanitary quality that's not to say that a burger producer is barred from injecting a variety of sanitisers*

    *pure speculation by the way, no proof whatsoever


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭derry




    I won't believe a word from a site that advertises books like the above.

    Well since I orginally got sick some few years ago and the normal doctors tablets made things worse I was forced to look outside the chemical phama solutions.With sites similar to this and cures that mostly are using good diets and taking vitims I am after two years nearly back to 100% . I now only use fraction of the expensive large snake oil pharma poison tablets the doctor gives me which dont really work and use cheaper cures that work.
    I hope before the end of 2010 to be completly of the large snake oil pharma poison.

    Here is a you tube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQuODiMlUsc )example of what happens to a top cancer doctor in a hospital who finds a cure to most all types of cancer and refuses to use the large phama poison methods any more as all his patients are cured in days
    I am in no hurry anymore to rush off to get the LICENCED witch doctors and large Pharma snake oil stuff they give out.
    Been there done that got the T shirt

    Derry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭WEST


    Teferi wrote: »
    This made me check your post count. I was surprised to see you have several hundred posts.

    Its a Derry thing, I used to work with a guy from Derry and he used words like 'worser' and 'yous' all the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭General Zod


    derry wrote: »
    Well since I orginally got sick some few years ago and the normal doctors tablets made things worse I was forced to look outside the chemical phama solutions.With sites similar to this and cures that mostly are using good diets and taking vitims I am after two years nearly back to 100% . I now only use fraction of the expensive large snake oil pharma poison tablets the doctor gives me which dont really work and use cheaper cures that work.
    I hope before the end of 2010 to be completly of the large snake oil pharma poison.

    Here is a you tube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQuODiMlUsc )example of what happens to a top cancer doctor in a hospital who finds a cure to most all types of cancer and refuses to use the large phama poison methods any more as all his patients are cured in days
    I am in no hurry anymore to rush off to get the LICENCED witch doctors and large Pharma snake oil stuff they give out.
    Been there done that got the T shirt

    Derry

    *headdesks*

    All his patients are cured in days? Of cancer?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,575 ✭✭✭✭PFJSplitter


    Before condemning 'ammonia', it may be useful to read about the widespread applications and uses of the chemical which includes its global use as an agricultural fertilizer.

    http://www.ammonia21.com/faq.php


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭General Zod


    Before condemning 'ammonia', it may be useful to read about the widespread applications and uses of the chemical which includes its global use as an agricultural fertilizer.

    http://www.ammonia21.com/faq.php


    the same people who will go "AMMONIA!!!!!" will also go "MERCURYYY!!!" in the vaccination debates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭Jev/N


    Conspiracy theories forum perhaps??

    edit: please stop highlighting the word licence


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Jev/N wrote: »
    Conspiracy theories forum perhaps??

    edit: please stop highlighting the word licence
    Don't you dare!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,749 ✭✭✭tony 2 tone


    After a quick look at that "news" piece on burgers, I have a shockin' hunger for one, but could make do with a bottle of window cleaner and some bread. Damn burger places have brain washed me!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭derry


    the same people who will go "AMMONIA!!!!!" will also go "MERCURYYY!!!" in the vaccination debates.

    Amonia in larger quantities is toxic and can be fatal to humans who injest it .
    Mercury is extremly toxic period in virtualy any amounts
    It takes long periods of time for humans to excrete the heavy metal .Vaccine use another type of mercury compond (ethel mercury)which is even 50 times more toxic than normal mercury as it takes a lot longer for humans to excrete that type of mercury.

    In the USA the big steaks to the my knowledge have a film of vaccine put on them to kill the bugs. This exposes you to mercury when you eat big staek cuts of meat Not sure what the story for the EU is .
    Me I prefer to buy a big joint and cut off the outside stuff and feed that to the pets (yeah I know cruelety to pets feeding them human licenced food) and cut the joint into my own steaks

    Worser is special for speeling nazi works every time to get thier head in a spin :p

    still no good barf smileys?? preferably with red bits in the green stuff

    Derry


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,494 ✭✭✭citizen_p


    sound like some peta type cr&p...

    their website is hilarious btw.....:P all people insuits and stupid storys about saving like 3 rabbits


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭derry


    humanji wrote: »
    Don't you dare!

    Cant resist a dare "Vaccines are licenced but that doesnt mean they are safe sorta like 007 "

    Derry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,728 ✭✭✭dilallio



    I won't believe a word from a site that advertises books like the above.

    Some of those books look very dodgy alright.

    Here's the NY Times article which was referred to by the article from the OP:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/31/us/31meat.html


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭derry


    dilallio wrote: »
    Some of those books look very dodgy alright.

    Here's the NY Times article which was referred to by the article from the OP:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/31/us/31meat.html

    I read 2 of the four pages from the NY times articale before falling asleep dreaming of burgers dripping in ammonia yum yum
    Still no good barf smileys so that I can recycle the same hamburger and get twice as much value for my money

    Derry


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Voodu Child


    We used to get fed ammonia as kids and it never did us any harm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,475 ✭✭✭drkpower


    derry wrote: »
    Amonia in larger quantities is toxic and can be fatal to humans who injest it .
    Mercury is extremly toxic period in virtualy any amounts
    It takes long periods of time for humans to excrete the heavy metal .Vaccine use another type of mercury compond (ethel mercury)which is even 50 times more toxic than normal mercury as it takes a lot longer for humans to excrete that type of mercury.

    In the USA the big steaks to the my knowledge have a film of vaccine put on them to kill the bugs. This exposes you to mercury when you eat big staek cuts of meat Not sure what the story for the EU is .
    Me I prefer to buy a big joint and cut off the outside stuff and feed that to the pets (yeah I know cruelety to pets feeding them human licenced food) and cut the joint into my own steaks

    Worser is special for speeling nazi works every time to get thier head in a spin :p

    still no good barf smileys?? preferably with red bits in the green stuff

    Derry

    When are the schools back, again?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 147 ✭✭DarrenMSP


    Derry,

    Why don't you raise and kill the cow yourself, then your sure nothing is gone into it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭derry


    DarrenMSP wrote: »
    Derry,

    Why don't you raise and kill the cow yourself, then your sure nothing is gone into it.

    When the cow presents itself I do rise to the occasion.:D
    Not sure I could go along with the kill bit though.

    Derry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭Kaizer Sosa


    derry wrote: »
    Me I prefer to buy a big joint and cut off the outside stuff and feed that to the pets (yeah I know cruelety to pets feeding them human licenced food) and cut the joint into my own steaks

    Worser is special for speeling nazi works every time to get thier head in a spin :p

    still no good barf smileys?? preferably with red bits in the green stuff

    Derry

    I suspected this after reading some of your posts......:rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 7,396 Mod ✭✭✭✭**Timbuk2**


    Oh I thought the thread title said 'FEEEKKK' - that's why I clicked into it.

    Never mind then :(


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,578 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Ammonia would raise the apparent protein content of the meat depending on the method of analysis. Bit like the melamine in the Chinese mik.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    derry wrote: »
    . expensive large snake oil pharma poison tablets the doctor gives me

    I am in no hurry anymore to rush off to get the LICENCED witch doctors and large Pharma snake oil stuff they give out.
    Well to be honest if your going to LICENCED witch doctors (Whoever the hell they are) and you take their "expensive large snake oil pharma poision tablets" then your probably right that they don't help. I've never heard of anyone getting better from large pharma poison tablets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,230 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Thread should have been called:

    A Moan Here about Ammonia.

    That would have been good..



    :o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭wilson10


    An engineer friend of mine was asked into one of the biggest meat processing plants in Ireland a few years back to help sort out a problem with part of the plant.

    Passing by a conveyor he was told that this was feeding the meat grinder feeding the burger processing line.

    He stopped to have a look and as he said himself "I was looking in at the meat and the meat was looking out at me".

    Put him off burgers for life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Teferi wrote: »
    This made me check your post count. I was surprised to see you have several hundred posts.
    I suspected this after reading some of your posts......:rolleyes:


    Grammar Nazis, read the Charter. :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,560 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    wilson10 wrote: »
    He stopped to have a look and as he said himself "I was looking in at the meat and the meat was looking out at me".

    Put him off burgers for life.
    Nah, nah, nah.

    Said it before and I'll say it again. Want to make a proper burger? Go into your local butchers, point at a cut of steak and say 'mince that', then go fry it yourself.

    The amount of people who are ignorant about MRM is astounding. You're eating meat containing anal and fecal matter (cow-sh*t basically) that's been boiled so the bacteria is dead.

    It's a bit like that survey they did in the UK about Chicken McNuggets a while back, where the respondants didn't know they were actually eating a meat product (honestly, the clue is in the product name).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭Kaizer Sosa


    Didn't mention Grammar tbh. I merely felt some of the ideas conveyed seem a bit out there...;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 181 ✭✭Occam


    derry wrote: »
    Here is a you tube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQuODiMlUsc )example of what happens to a top cancer doctor

    He is not, nor never was a top cancer doctor. He is no longer a qualified doctor.

    derry wrote: »
    doctor in a hospital

    He doesnt work in a hospital.

    Instead he charges outrageous amounts for his "treatments". Usually muchmore than what you call big pharma. Often 30k plus.

    derry wrote: »
    who finds a cure to most all types of cancer and refuses to use the large phama poison methods any more as all his patients are cured in days

    He hasnt found a cure to cancer, and his patients are not cured in days. He has killed a number of his patients, and has indeed been convicted of a number of crimes, including manslaughter and fraud.

    Indeed his lies are best illustrated by the story of his former proponent Marjolein bouwman. http://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2008/12/07/young_mother_marjolein_dies/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    derry wrote: »
    Well since I orginally got sick some few years ago and the normal doctors tablets made things worse I was forced to look outside the chemical phama solutions.With sites similar to this and cures that mostly are using good diets and taking vitims I am after two years nearly back to 100% . I now only use fraction of the expensive large snake oil pharma poison tablets the doctor gives me which dont really work and use cheaper cures that work.
    I hope before the end of 2010 to be completly of the large snake oil pharma poison.

    Here is a you tube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQuODiMlUsc )example of what happens to a top cancer doctor in a hospital who finds a cure to most all types of cancer and refuses to use the large phama poison methods any more as all his patients are cured in days
    I am in no hurry anymore to rush off to get the LICENCED witch doctors and large Pharma snake oil stuff they give out.
    Been there done that got the T shirt

    Derry

    I've noticed a common pattern with Big Pharma Conspiracy believers, they cant spell very well and have poor grammar, not sure why..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 664 ✭✭✭craggles


    Derry how can you honestly believe any of that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    To be fair theres nothing horridly wrong with USDA beef [its not the best quality or anything]. I'd still rather have Grass-Fed Irish beef. Delicious.

    Blog type webpages will spew out **** like that to scare their readers into buying into their business/agenda. Like the crazy ass hyperbole site I found one time that was some neochristian family site where they were trying to scaremonger parents about grade-2 gay clubs and other such lunacy. You cant buy into everything you see read or hear. And even the news outlets get it wrong. For instance Show me where in this video that "she throws a cash register".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,984 ✭✭✭Degag


    Teferi wrote: »
    This made me check your post count. I was surprised to see you have several hundred posts.

    Alot of posts isn't a prerequisite to good grammar!


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