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D-tuning pedal

  • 05-01-2010 6:34pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 640 ✭✭✭


    Is there or is`nt there such thing as a stomp box that you can configure to change your guitar tuning to drop D, C# e.t.c all the way down to the dirty C?

    Man that would be awesome! I have several guitar, All for different styles, but they all have floyd roses, so down tuning is a pain in the arse.

    Any ideas? if not, Does someone wanna invent one with me :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    Is there or is`nt there such thing as a stomp box that you can configure to change your guitar tuning to drop D, C# e.t.c all the way down to the dirty C?

    Man that would be awesome! I have several guitar, All for different styles, but they all have floyd roses, so down tuning is a pain in the arse.

    Any ideas? if not, Does someone wanna invent one with me :)
    You mean something like a chromatic tuner?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 640 ✭✭✭Thornography


    Savman wrote: »
    You mean something like a chromatic tuner?

    An Aid to tune my guitar? Still does`nt bypass my problem with manually changing my guitar tuning so suit some songs e.t.c


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭Welease


    None that I know of... you could try doing it using a midi pickup and changing the specific notes that way ( to simulate the change of tuning ).. would probably sound crap though and would lose the ability to modify sound by picking differently per note etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    There's the Morpheus DropTune, which can drop your whole guitar down, but it's just lower versions of standard tuning (so it doesn't change tuning, it just pitch shifts everything). And it doesn't sound particularly good.

    Robot Guitar?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 640 ✭✭✭Thornography


    El Pr0n wrote: »
    There's the Morpheus DropTune, which can drop your whole guitar down, but it's just lower versions of standard tuning (so it doesn't change tuning, it just pitch shifts everything). And it doesn't sound particularly good.

    Robot Guitar?

    Awesome, That pedal is exactly what im looking for aldoh im gona wait a while untill they bring out newer versions, this high stings are very sloppy and lose pretty much all tone the lower you go.

    Cheers for the vid :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    Awesome, That pedal is exactly what im looking for aldoh im gona wait a while untill they bring out newer versions, this high stings are very sloppy and lose pretty much all tone the lower you go.

    Cheers for the vid :)

    No worries!

    Yeah, it seems the lower you go, the worse it gets. There's a really good comment on YouTube,

    "You've gotta have a lot of balls to say, "Yeah it downtunes without any sort of warble or tone alteration", and follow that with a recording of it downtuning with warbling and tone alteration."

    :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,291 ✭✭✭-=al=-


    yeah theres a few that can change the pitch but it will change the pitch of everything,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭ball ox


    alternatively you could install one of these - Drop D at the flick of a switch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    ball ox wrote: »
    alternatively you could install one of these - Drop D at the flick of a switch.

    $102?? :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,616 ✭✭✭8k2q1gfcz9s5d4


    El Pr0n wrote: »
    $102?? :eek:

    LP Robot is a lot more!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    LP Robot is a lot more!

    Yeah, but I can understand paying a lot of money for all the technology stuff in that! That's a ****ing lever!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,291 ✭✭✭-=al=-


    it rears your children also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭68 lost souls


    Or you could save $50 and get an EVH D tuna for the floyds. http://www.dtuna.com/buynow.php

    p26586.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 JackMagic


    Yeah ever seen Selene by Michael Manring? Makes great use of them

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eTBc7aWBGw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 640 ✭✭✭Thornography


    The whole point is not for me to have 5+ guitars, and then 5+ more for dtunning. I want a one of salution that will enable me to not have so many guitars and the option to play the one, in any tune i like. :( cnt believe there is nothing accurate enough yet. :(:(:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,291 ✭✭✭-=al=-


    a non locking trem guitar is yo friend


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    Seriously, what's the problem with re-tuning your guitar? I have a few songs that I play in open Dmaj7, and I have a Korg Pitchblack. If you're looking for a pedal that pitch-shifts each string individually, then that's impossible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭68 lost souls


    El Pron the problem is he uses floating trems who are setup to play at a standard tuning and any variant form that tuning destroys the whole setup.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,817 ✭✭✭✭Dord


    If you have a Floyd Rose then get a D-Tuna.

    http://www.dtuna.com/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭68 lost souls


    Dord wrote: »
    If you have a Floyd Rose then get a D-Tuna.

    http://www.dtuna.com/

    Yup, linked to that on the previous page. Only problem is that only does drop D and he wants to use loads of tunings.

    A pedal will never sound the same as a guitar that is actually down tuned becasue it will be im sure 99% of time a digital pedal which eont sound right. Your best bet is just to pick a guitar to use for each tuning and leave it at that. You said you have 5+ guitars then leave each one as a different tuning.

    As was suggeested a midi pickup system could do it, like on the VG strat but they are very expensive.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCydOEBPIeo


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭Demeyes


    I think the Line 6 Variax has a tuning setting built into it. You can have different tuning presets and change them by turning a knob, obviously this only works well when you can't hear the unplugged sound.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    Future Sounds had a strat that tuned it's self. I had a loan of it for a few days, you just push a button for the tuning you want and the thing tunes it's self with servos on the tuning pegs. Very quick and accurate, oh and expensive.

    http://www.futuresounds.ie/

    http://transperformance.com/guitargallery/gallery_large_html/fender_strat_black.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,817 ✭✭✭✭Dord


    He could get a Gibson Robot either. I've seen a few going cheap recently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    El Pron the problem is he uses floating trems who are setup to play at a standard tuning and any variant form that tuning destroys the whole setup.

    Ah yes. Didn't read the OP properly :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    If you're just looking for a really low tuning try the Ibanez RG2228GK

    rg2228_gk_kopij.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭darrenw5094


    Gibson Dusk Tiger. Bit of a toy, but maybe the way to go in the future............200 years or so.

    Or maybe you could go for the 7 string.;)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭artvandulet


    Demeyes wrote: »
    I think the Line 6 Variax has a tuning setting built into it. You can have different tuning presets and change them by turning a knob, obviously this only works well when you can't hear the unplugged sound.

    +1

    OP, you can configure tunings with the Variax on a PC and save them to your guitar. Then, when you select one of the positions on the pot, the five way selector switch becomes a 5 way tuning selector - as far as I remember!

    Considering this can be done with the Variax, it is odd that there isnt a pedal available to do the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    Or maybe you could go for the 7 string.;)
    If you're referring to the guitar pic I posted, you might want to count the strings again :).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭darrenw5094


    Malice_ wrote: »
    If you're referring to the guitar pic I posted, you might want to count the strings again :).

    Nope. Referring to my boards signature.;) On the Q. T., B. .T. W.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    Nope. Referring to my boards signature.;) On the Q. T., B. .T. W.
    Ah okay, I've got sigs disabled so I presumed you meant the pic that I posted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    Considering this can be done with the Variax, it is odd that there isnt a pedal available to do the same.

    The Variax has piezo pickups in the bridge, which picks up each string individually, without any cross-contamination. So when you configure an alternate tuning, the computers in the guitar just pitch-shift each string accordingly, and then they're mixed down for the output from the guitar. A guitar pedal takes the signal from a normal guitar, all notes and overtones all together, and effects them. You can't separate a normal guitar signal into six to achieve the Variax kind of pitch shifting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭artvandulet


    El Pr0n wrote: »
    The Variax has piezo pickups in the bridge, which picks up each string individually.

    I realised the blatantly obvious by the time I finished that sentence. :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    I realised the blatantly obvious by the time I finished that sentence. :o

    Hehe, I'm sorry for the lecture :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭artvandulet


    El Pr0n wrote: »
    Hehe, I'm sorry for the lecture :D

    No, no. Sorry for my stupidity!:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭darrenw5094


    Malice_ wrote: »
    Ah okay, I've got sigs disabled so I presumed you meant the pic that I posted.

    Man, turn those sigs on...you don't realise what you are missing.;)

    Guitar with a fixed bridge would be the only easy way to tune manual with a TU-2 or similar. But Line6 witchcraft have some trickery for the different tunings.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,738 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    +1

    OP, you can configure tunings with the Variax on a PC and save them to your guitar. Then, when you select one of the positions on the pot, the five way selector switch becomes a 5 way tuning selector - as far as I remember!

    Considering this can be done with the Variax, it is odd that there isnt a pedal available to do the same.

    found this on dolphin music http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/product/43010-morpheus-droptune.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    Man, turn those sigs on...you don't realise what you are missing.;)
    I know exactly what I'm missing which is why I leave them off :).


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