Wild Boar Pictures

Boyle243

hi all,
here is a picture taken of two wild boar/pigs on the curlews on the Roscommon/Sligo border. It was taken a few days ago and it is genuine. I'll tell u the short story around them. About 2 weeks ago a fella i know went out to his dog pen and found three of these fella's in there. They had dug under the fence a bit. He was shocked to say the least!! Off he went and got his camera when he came back only two were there one had got out again and was gone. He managed to get the other two into a cattle trailer. He took photos of them and i have yet to see them but they were seen by two other fellas who i trust. Now this fella then took the Boar in the trailer and gave them to a man who lives on the Curlews. What this man did then i dont know, he might have let them go or maybe they escaped or maybe these two are two different Boars? But i think it is properly one of the first two.. But you cant deny that there is wild pigs/Boar out there...!
http://www.realboyle.com/dailyimage/january2010/pigs.jpg

Dusty87

They'd look nice in a pot!!
Where was pic taken? Looks like he let them off??

Boyle243

Was taken on the old Sligo rd across the Curlew mts. Ya I think tats wat he did...

Dusty87

Was thinking. Thought it looked a bit photoshopped at first. They look young enough. Where they fully grown

irish setter

something don't look right about that pic

Dusty87

irish setter wrote: »

something don't look right about that pic

Was thinking the same myself. Theres something just not right. By no means disputing what your saying op, just something looks out of place. Maybe its the snow or something.
Also if there out in open would they not be running away from humans instead of facing them and trotting towards them. Maybe im reading too much into it. I do be a bit skeptical about these things:o

Half-cocked

I think they look 'wrong' because the snapper used and flash and has boosted the contrast a bit high. If these were domestic animals released into the wild recently then they wouldn't fear humans, allowing a close shot like that. They certainly look like yearling boar I've seen in Germany, not like hairy domestic pig breeds.

4gun

how come you can shoot wild boar but it's illegal to kill your own pigs in ireland
is this what the English called a "little bit Oirish"

lordarpad

oh, they're definitely wild boar, I am much more wondering whether this is Ireland ...

Pkiernan

If this photo was taken in Ireland, it means that these animals (or theor forebears) were smuggled into the country at some point. They would appear to be 100% wild pigs, meaning that they are not escaped feral animals.

I hope that these pigs are in Ireland though - absolutley love to hunt them!! It will be bad news for farmers though, as they destroy crops as if you drove a bulldozer thru the field.

Boyle243

l can guarantee that the picture is real and where it was taken..
lm not asking anybody to believe me tats up to yourself....

calva

These guys are quite young it would be interesting to know where the parents are.Do you have anyone breeding in captivity over there? they could be escapees.It would be a bit silly to hunt them down at that age though

jwshooter

Boyle 243.

do you think its prudent to post towns lands etc on hear.

Sparks

Are we really going to go down that road again, with the yelling at other posters for posting information that you'd have to be a criminal to exploit? It's the same thing as Gardai telling us we can't have pistols because people might steal them from us to use in crime.

jwshooter

Sparks wrote: »

Are we really going to go down that road again, with the yelling at other posters for posting information that you'd have to be a criminal to exploit? It's the same thing as Gardai telling us we can't have pistols because people might steal them from us to use in crime.

whats your point.

Sparks

My point is that asking someone if it's wise to post locations, when you've previously explained that you do so because you fear poachers might misuse the information, is precisely the same argument used by the Gardai to try to ban pistols (and in the past, all fullbore rifles too). You cannot decry it on one hand (which we rightly do) and then use it on others yourself with the other hand.

jwshooter

Sparks wrote: »

My point is that asking someone if it's wise to post locations, when you've previously explained that you do so because you fear poachers might misuse the information, is precisely the same argument used by the Gardai to try to ban pistols (and in the past, all fullbore rifles too). You cannot decry it on one hand (which we rightly do) and then use it on others yourself with the other hand.

let me put it in terms you might understand .

if i left my bike against a tree in stephens green and went across to o Brains and put the location of the tree on a poster in there window .

do you think the bike would be there is the morning ? .well do you.

Sparks

It's a pretty bad analogy jw because (a) the bike's static, boars aren't; (b) stephen's green is small and lots of people go through there daily which isn't true of where the boars are (not to the same extent anyway); and (c) if you gave the location of the tree in the green, that's more infomation than was posted about the boar's location here. From the information posted above, you could narrow their location down to the borderlands between two counties - but that's not even close to a postal address yet.

Not to mention that (d) you're talking about banning people from putting up posters in a place you don't own on the basis that criminals might abuse the information, (e) you're therefore looking to restrict the actions of law-abiding people because of possible criminal abuses, and (f) the boar aren't technically supposed to be in this country to begin with.

Besides all of which, this has come up before in the surfing forum when someone posted a map of surfing locations. The boards.ie line on this got drawn then, and it wasn't to censor information on the basis of possible future abuses by third parties.

dwighet

this is gett`n good.......keeep it up lads....Im house bound allll night:eek:
And there`s nowt on the box

Dusty87

dwighet wrote: »

this is gett`n good.......keeep it up lads....Im house bound allll night:eek:
And there`s nowt on the box

Nothing BOARING about this......

God that was a dry one

jwshooter

sparks .
if you knew you history you would know of the curlews.
you possible have see the horse man standing on the pass.(Gealic Chieftain)standing guard on.
the range of mountains called the curlews is not massive on the border of the two counties.

thinking that boar will not stay on the tops it would be reasonable to think there on the lower ends of it now.

remember the large red stag that was shot in sligo last year when some one started talking. the area was flat out with lamps and boys driving it day and night until it was shot.
also a wild area but the animal still was killed.

come to think of it you could be still on the bike when it is nicked up there these days,ray darcy was of his off a second when his one was nicked just before Christmas.

so your rant about pistols and ful bore rifles has little baring on the fact that ,the less people know your business the longer you will be at it.

Sparks

So basicly, keep quiet, keep the head down and we'll be allright? :rolleyes:
Has it not occurred to you that there's no such thing as a secret in Ireland?

jwshooter

Sparks wrote: »

So basicly, keep quiet, keep the head down and we'll be allright? :rolleyes:
Has it not occurred to you that there's no such thing as a secret in Ireland?

I wish you would .

plenty of secrets ,boards is not the place to tell em

Sparks

There are no secrets jw, you just think there are. Hell, half the stuff I heard about shooters over the years (and that turned out to be true), I heard from people in the DoJ or Gardai before I heard it from any shooter. And as to keeping the head down and staying quiet, why don't you ask any of our IPSC shooters how well that policy works?

jwshooter

whats tactical pistol shooting got to do with wild boar ,i cant see the connection .can any one

Sparks

(1) I'm pretty sure the IPSC chaps would happily point out that 'tactical' has as much to do with their sport as 'animal torture' has to do with hunting;
(2) The point was that the policy of keeping quiet and keeping the head down (what you're advocating) doesn't work and does damage in the short, medium and long terms and the IPSC shooters are the most recent example of that.

dwighet

jwshooter wrote: »

whats tactical pistol shooting got to do with wild boar ,i cant see the connection .can any one

Not me...tis a hunting forum!!!! Mayby out of his league... big diff between paper and game.Me personally am not a paper shooter so im not one to throw stones in a glass house..
Now back to the pigs...PLEASE

jwshooter

Sparks wrote: »

(1) I'm pretty sure the IPSC chaps would happily point out that 'tactical' has as much to do with their sport as 'animal torture' has to do with hunting;
(2) The point was that the policy of keeping quiet and keeping the head down (what you're advocating) doesn't work and does damage in the short, medium and long terms and the IPSC shooters are the most recent example of that.

so your saying that IPSC pistol shooters should know about wild boar in sligo.

why ?

jwshooter

dwighet wrote: »

Not me...tis a hunting forum!!!!
Now back to the pigs...PLEASE

a guy across the fields bought two pigs in the summer .they a cross fairly breed ,hairy looking lads .
he raised them for his table,it would be the way to go if you had the time.

Sparks

No jw, I'm saying don't go telling folks what they can and cannot post because (a) you don't run the forum, (b) you're wrong if you think nobody knows where they are, (c) you're trying to get law-abiding people to tie themselves up in knots in a doomed attempt to forestall poaching of illegally imported animals, and (d) the approach of keeping the head down in the vain hope noone will notice you doesn't work, has never worked, and never will work, so stop telling people to do it.

meathstevie

Anyway, those two lads in the pictures are only just out of their stripey pyjamas and would be excellent eating. If they were in Sligo or Roscommon they must be very hungry to dig into a dog kennel of all places. Normally they're very shy and the last place they'd approach would be a house or a dog kennel.

dwighet

meathstevie wrote: »

Anyway, those two lads in the pictures are only just out of their stripey pyjamas and would be excellent eating. If they were in Sligo or Roscommon they must be very hungry to dig into a dog kennel of all places. Normally they're very shy and the last place they'd approach would be a house or a dog kennel.

I reckon those wee little pigs would snuff out any dog house out in any farm for a mile or two. Me being an Aussie from north east Australia Im familiar wit da dirty piggy..... my advice to ye.....7mm at the least for a good size pig..

Or what we do back home.....3 strong dogs with amour coats and a good knife...

And if that fails....... climb the nearest fecking tree

Boyle243

JW i have lived on the curlews all my life and can say that if i went out to find those Boar l would be looking for weeks. All thought only a small mt range it covers a lot of area most of which is bog and forestry and seeing as there is only two (that i know of) finding them would be near impossible. So any poacher is more than welcome to try and find them but i think he would be wasting his time..
Those are my reasons for posting the townland in my first post and of course i thought about weather to include it or not but i think my reasons why i could include it are acceptable and good. Also it adds credibility to this thread as im not just saying "there's Boar in Sligo". lm giving a place and evidence to back up my story..

Don't take this post personally JW i just didn't like the way you presumed that i didn't think about giving details before i submitted my thread.
Happy New Year to you and thank you for joining in the discussion.

Grizzly 45

dwighet wrote: »

I reckon those wee little pigs would snuff out any dog house out in any farm for a mile or two. Me being an Aussie from north east Australia Im familiar wit da dirty piggy..... my advice to ye.....7mm at the least for a good size pig..

Or what we do back home.....3 strong dogs with amour coats and a good knife...

And if that fails....... climb the nearest fecking tree

Of course a big caliber handgun[45 ACP upwards] could also be quite helpful in ahunting situation like this...
If JW has no objections of course...:D

jwshooter

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Of course a big caliber handgun[45 ACP upwards] could also be quite helpful in ahunting situation like this...
If JW has no objections of course...:D

thats if you can get a licence for one

meathstevie

If you shot one of those lads with a 7mm or a 300 win mag or something the likes of it the only thing you'd have left would be it's oink.

Grizzly 45

They are about a year old those lads,so they are pretty big and a 7mm is the std for them in Germany.

kakashka

Two Boar,approx 9/11 months,give's a rough idea of size,these were shot recently in northern Russian and believed to be as pure as you can get,of course conditions influence growth a lot but generally Boar dont grow at anything like the same rate as domestic,

meathstevie

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

They are about a year old those lads,so they are pretty big and a 7mm is the std for them in Germany.

Bullet choice would be quite important I suppose Grizzly. If you get an old boar or a mature sow with a couple of years under the belt I know you need some 7mm / .30 stopping power and energy transfer but for those half grown lads like the ones in the picture smaller would do the job quite nicely wouldn't it ?

jwshooter

meathstevie wrote: »

Bullet choice would be quite important I suppose Grizzly. If you get an old boar or a mature sow with a couple of years under the belt I know you need some 7mm / .30 stopping power and energy transfer but for those half grown lads like the ones in the picture smaller would do the job quite nicely wouldn't it ?

243 in the back of the left ear will stop all europen game ,
the classic JFK shot.

worry more about shot placement ,the ballistics end of it has been done for you.

Sparks

jwshooter wrote: »

the classic JFK shot

To be fair, a rather challanging shot even for experienced hunters...

jwshooter

not really ,

never judge another's capeabilities by your own standards .

Mellor

Pkiernan wrote: »

If this photo was taken in Ireland, it means that these animals (or theor forebears) were smuggled into the country at some point. They would appear to be 100% wild pigs, meaning that they are not escaped feral animals.

how do you know they aren't feral, or a few generations below a feral pig.
It takes very few generations, for all the hair and tusks to reappear. Very adaptable those piggies.

jwshooter wrote: »

let me put it in terms you might understand .

if i left my bike against a tree in stephens green and went across to o Brains and put the location of the tree on a poster in there window .

do you think the bike would be there is the morning ? .well do you.

Do you think your posting would have anything to do with the bike being stolen. well do you?

Pkiernan

Mellor wrote: »

how do you know they aren't feral, or a few generations below a feral pig.
It takes very few generations, for all the hair and tusks to reappear. Very adaptable those piggies. quote]

The piglets in that photo are of pure strain.

Feral pigs (from domesticated stock) will never revert to that level of purity. Quite often in 2 or less generations they will regrow denser hair (tusks will always be present), but feral piglets will never regain that striping seen in the photos. They will often be back, brown, or piebald.

I have seen and trapped many feral piglets over 12 years of hunting wild pig, and never seen those pictured. We used to sell them to Vietnamese restaurants - they would pay $50 a piglet!

rainbowtrout

Boyle243 wrote: »

JW i have lived on the curlews all my life and can say that if i went out to find those Boar l would be looking for weeks. All thought only a small mt range it covers a lot of area most of which is bog and forestry and seeing as there is only two (that i know of) finding them would be near impossible. So any poacher is more than welcome to try and find them but i think he would be wasting his time..
Those are my reasons for posting the townland in my first post and of course i thought about weather to include it or not but i think my reasons why i could include it are acceptable and good. Also it adds credibility to this thread as im not just saying "there's Boar in Sligo". lm giving a place and evidence to back up my story..

I met the girl who took the photo in Lough Key Forest Park two days ago (out taking photos). I taught her in school. She's about as straight down the line as you can get, and there's no BS with her. The photo was taken near where she lives, it was just a bit of a fluke that she saw them.

marlin vs

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100114/od_nm/us_boar

Koro

Reward offered after wild boar rampage

A REWARD has been offered after what is believed to have been a wild boar went on 'a complete rampage' in Kanturk on Wednesday morning

http://www.corkman.ie/premium/news/reward-offered-after-wild-boar-rampage-2120680.html

ghostmantra

Thursday April 01 2010............. i wonder:D:D

jwshooter

yes , but people reading this shxt will from now think boar are aggressive dangerous animals ,that attack with out reason .

Spunk84

:PNo offense or nothing but this looks like it was photo shopped:eek:

If you look at the little piggies feet there isnt an ounce of snow on them and if you look were they are coming from to the right of the pic they would off been in a bit of deep snow , but not a bit on their coat?

My view on it but looks out of place. plus were is the mommy pig, i thought they travel in packs? with other piggies , i think porkies are being told:mad:

ghostmantra

do you think..........:rolleyes: