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Dollhouse S02E11 [US] **Spoilers**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    Holy ****.

    I did not see the ending coming despite my best efforts at guessing.
    Best episode of dollhouse yet. Why couldn't we have this quality from the start of the season... :mad:

    Crazy good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Also Starring LeVar Burton


    Whoa!!!!
    That was awesome... I went through a rollercoaster of emotions in that episode...
    What the f**k???
    Poor Topher... Really loved the relationship between him and Bennett and was not expecting it to end so abruptly and violently...
    And Boyd!!! Did anyone see that coming? I think not...
    Epic...
    Can't believe there's only two episodes left... I'm so sad...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,570 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    Yeah, superb stuff. The penny dropped for me (about the ending) when Saunders fired the gun, but I still think we have a surprise or two coming in the next two weeks. Since its the end of the series, they can literally kill anyone off. You just don't know who will survive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,722 ✭✭✭anotherlostie


    Wow it is epic stuff, give or take the odd bit of clunky dialogue. It is so satisfying to see a show taken to a conclusion like this, and gives me great hope that team Darlton can do the same for Lost. I never saw Boyd as the big bad, but had pretty much thought it could be anyone else in the cast. Just a pity there weren't two episodes tonight!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,081 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Oh my god, Bennett. At first I thought Saunders was just one cold hard bitch. As in "you programmed me to hate you Topher, now I'm taking away your chance at happiness".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭eVeNtInE


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 sworderer


    The last episodes have been the best ones of Dollhouse. It is nice to see a US TV series come to a good conclusion rather than drag on and come of an abrupt halt when cancelled.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 303 ✭✭Rob30888


    Wow, another truly incredible episode, I love this show so much at the moment it hurts. All through the episode I tried so hard to guess who Clide 2.0 and his partner would be (I thought when the elevator doors opened that the guy Caroline met was actually Alpha), but I never even considered Boyd, truly one of the greatest TV twists I've ever seen.

    The only problem is I fear the next episode will be very rushed. With episode 13 another Epitaph it doesn't leave much room to tie up the plot and this show can not end on a cliff hanger, though I'm sure it will...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    As everyone else says - Wow!

    I was just thinking to myself in that scene with Bennet, I wonder if she gets killed and that's why Topher goes a bit mad. Next thing, bang!

    - And the end!!! O.O
    I haven't been THAT surprised by any programme in a very, very, very long time!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,906 ✭✭✭J-blk


    A truly awesome episode and I've got high hopes for the finale. I do wonder if Epitaph Two will be a direct continuation of Epitaph One (so that future still happens - there was more to explore in that future anyway) or if Echo and friends succeed, changing things.

    I also like that even though Boyd was a major twist I didn't really see coming, there are clues throughout the series that there was a lot more to him than just an ex-cop that for some reason cared about Echo - so it wasn't a tacked-on surprise ending, but part of the plan all along. I still wonder about his main motive though for entering the LA Dollhouse and "helping out" but hopefully next week's episode will explain more about what his game plan has been all along.

    Great to at least see the show go out on a high.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    J-blk wrote: »
    I still wonder about his main motive though for entering the LA Dollhouse and "helping out" but hopefully next week's episode will explain more about what his game plan has been all along.

    Well it sort of seems from the final scenes that Echo's ability to retain all her memories and skills was designed by Rossum all along. Though I can't imagine why.:confused:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    Outstanding episode, all the cast were back!...Whiskey/Mellie and yer man in th attic!
    Acion packed, loads of twists and plotlines....superb stuff!

    My question is this...is Boyd a real person or an imprinted doll?....Clyde guy said he'd been Clyde #5, so i assumed whil watching Boyd was imprinted with the invisible partners mind. But then in the last series when Boyd and Echo go to the college in Tuscon and they got infected with that virus, he reacted like a human, not an imprinted doll?

    It's going out with a real bang!...did anyone noticed they re-used the Epitaph One footage of Boyd and Whiskey?....i'll bet they'll reuse more Epitaph One footage in the next two eps., saves time and is cheaper.

    My guess is Epitaph Two will pick up from when Echo and Ballard climb out the window, the future will still happen, but they still need to take out the mainframe and Rossum.

    Nice to see Mellie!...Bennett was a TOTAL shocker!, sleeper...wow!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    J-blk wrote: »
    ...there are clues throughout the series that there was a lot more to him than just an ex-cop that for some reason cared about Echo - so it wasn't a tacked-on surprise ending, but part of the plan all along...

    Yeah, that's really crappy when they do that. I wondered from time to time why they didn't have a back story for him, but never suspected something like that.

    Really looking forward to the next episode! - Too bad I'll be away and won't get to see it for a while. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87 ✭✭elleelle19


    I'm not so sure that Boyd is the Big Bad for one he killed one of the Rossum guys to save Echo and Topher and he made no attempt to stop Echo being imprinted with Caroline. Looked like he wanted to talk to Caroline.

    Also felt so bad for Topher but I just couldn't trust Bennett kept expecting her to do something evil and try and escape.

    Can't wait for next ep :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,081 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    I think Boyd knows that it's unavoidable that Rossum's enemies will eventually get access to/develop remote imprinting technology. Echo is his defence against the remote imprints.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    So I think we can assume that it was Boyd who sent the messages to Ballard via Echo and November in season 1? If so why was he so keen to have Ballard involved in the Dollhouse? I know Mr Domnick was working for the NSA but I don't think he was the one who was sending messages to Ballard, was he?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    who is Dominic's FBI/CIA/NSA contact then?....who was he communicating with?...Boyd?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    I think it's *too* obvious that Boyd is one of the two head Rossum guys, he might just be working security for Rossum, or he was imprinted at *that* stage, but later had his original imprint/wedge/mind.

    IMO....i think Caroline has more to do with Rossum, it could be SHE is the other member, but was wiped.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    elleelle19 wrote: »
    I'm not so sure that Boyd is the Big Bad for one he killed one of the Rossum guys to save Echo and Topher and he made no attempt to stop Echo being imprinted with Caroline. Looked like he wanted to talk to Caroline.

    Also felt so bad for Topher but I just couldn't trust Bennett kept expecting her to do something evil and try and escape.

    Can't wait for next ep :D

    ^ it was a PERFECT way to explain why Topher went mad in the future, his tech killed her and destroyed the world.

    I *still* want to know who did Topher imprint into Sierra to be his friend in S1...remember that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87 ✭✭elleelle19


    IMO....i think Caroline has more to do with Rossum, it could be SHE is the other member, but was wiped.

    Don't think Caroline could be the partner seeing as Clyde had been in the attic since 1993 but she definatley has more to do with rossum than we have seen.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭beanyb


    I just got to watch this episode now... and just holy crap. That was some twist. I cant remember the last time I was as shocked by a tv show... My brain isnt functioning at its normal level.

    I cant wait for the last 2 episodes now. I cant even imagine what they'll bring. I'm half delighted the show got cancelled because it meant we got all this, but half devastated that there's only 2 episodes to go...

    Ah!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,081 ✭✭✭ziedth


    I just managed to knock this out tomorrow night. What a great twist, I only guessed it just before the reveal cause I read there was a big twist before i watched it. Still though, epic stuff.

    I for one am delighted its ending like this then say a show like prision break that was epic for the first two seasons but faded away from then on.

    I was just thinking if you could make a single season out of the two cutting the active of the week episodes from each season I think you would have a season that would rival anything.


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