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Lakeside BDO World Darts Championship

  • 29-12-2009 3:17pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭


    4 days left to the Lakeside World event. Out of the 32 players taking part there's at least 8 players with a genuine chance of winning this championship in my opinion. First game on Saturday is Tony O'Shea v Robbie Green,a hard game for O'Shea to start off with. Ted Hankey plays Gary Robson Saturday evening and i reckon Hankey will be exiting the tournament that night. A good tournament in prospect,it kicks off on Saturday on BBC1 at 1 30pm.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭mr.jingle


    A good tournament and i think for most darts fans its a tradition to watch this but over the last few years its lost its atmosphere(maybe its just me) with all the changes regarding scores and losing some of its best players. At least it looks more open than the PDC Worlds and on form i suppose Waites would have to be the fav for me with Adams,O'Shea and Hankey also in with a shout as always. Robbie Green if he gets through his first game and the luck of the draw i think he can go far but for me i'd have to go with Waites


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,182 ✭✭✭dionsiseire


    ive a 5er on McCloskey and Waites outright, could be a good tournament, but it wont be near the standard of the PDC

    from the quarters onward the PDC WC is super averages, super darts and i wont be surprised to see a second 9 darter

    doubt we'll see a 9 in BDO


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭damo180


    any Irish lads in the BDO worlds ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭dartbhoy


    damo180 wrote: »
    any Irish lads in the BDO worlds ?
    There is 2 Irish players taking part Martin McCloskey from Donegal and Daryl Gurney from Derry. McCloskey plays 11th seed Steve West in the 1st round next Monday at 8 40pm and in my view has a great chance against a player who has lost in the 1st round in his previous 2 appearances. Gurney plays 14th seed Scott Mitchell the same evening and i reckon Daryl will beat Mitchell and set up a 2nd round clash against Martin Adams,a repeat of last year's 2nd round clash when Gurney was unlucky not to beat Adams.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭shockframe


    ive a 5er on McCloskey and Waites outright, could be a good tournament, but it wont be near the standard of the PDC

    from the quarters onward the PDC WC is super averages, super darts and i wont be surprised to see a second 9 darter

    doubt we'll see a 9 in BDO

    what about wade v nicholson last year.80 averages for both if i remember correctly


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭padr81


    I remember posting about this last year, the averages in the bdo's last 16 and last 8 were higher than the pdc equivalent or at least on a par. It was only the last 32 where the pdc stood higher as the semi's and final were kinda skewed by Taylor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭dartbhoy


    Leaving Taylor out of the averages the players in the BDO have equal if not higher averages than the PDC players. The 2008 BDO World final was played between Mark Webster and Simon Whitlock and in the final both players were averaging in the mid 90's. In the PDC final that year John Part won with a 92 average and his opponent Kirk Sheperd averaged 85. Both Webster and Whitlock are through to the quarter finals of the This year's PDC Worlds at their first attempt,this proves that the BDO has top class quality players. Unfortunatley the BDO doesn't have the money to match the PDC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭shockframe


    it should be a good tournament.there is a lot of potential winners.at this stage o'shea and waites would be favourites.adams should be there or thereabouts but having made at least the semis since 2004 he may be due an early exit.

    as an outsider chisnall has been in good form,gurney can blow hot and cold but he looked promising last year.ten berge is a player who hasnt shown his best yet but could be a serious dark horse.

    its not as bad as some people make it out.at least 13 of the first round games will be watchable.much depends on the inevitable talk on switchovers throughout the tournament.a lot of talk about o'shea and waites especially so will these players be put out by an early exit.

    anyways enjoy it.look forward to the lakeside every year.darts is darts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭dartbhoy


    There is some brilliant 1st round clashes at Lakeside this year and i could see a good few 1st round games going the distance. I've put a few euro each way on Scottish player John Henderson. He's had a good year on the BDO tour winning the German,Belgian and Didam opens and has the potential to average around the 100 mark. Waites,O'Shea,Adams and Hankey will be among the favourites to win it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,006 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    whats the prize money throughout rounds in this?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭shockframe


    callaway92 wrote: »
    whats the prize money throughout rounds in this?

    is there prize money?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭ratinakeg


    2010 prize money - Men:

    Champion: £100,000
    Runner-up: £30,000
    Semi-finalists: £11,000 x 2
    Quarter-finalists: £ 6,000 x 4
    2nd round winners: £ 4,250 x 8
    1st round winners: £ 3,000 x 16
    TOTAL: £258,000
    2010 prize money - Women:


    Champion: £6,000
    Runner-up: £2,000
    Joint 3rd: £1,000 x 2
    Joint 5th: £ 500 x 4
    TOTAL: £12,000
    Highest Checkout:
    Men & Women: £3,000
    9-Dart 501:
    Men & Women: £52,000
    Total available prize fund: £325,000


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭shockframe


    just to add look out for ian white.adrian lewis said recently that they were practising together before the world championships.whites odds have slashed i believe since lewis said that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭dartbhoy


    shockframe wrote: »
    just to add look out for ian white.adrian lewis said recently that they were practising together before the world championships.whites odds have slashed i believe since lewis said that.
    A lot has been said about Ian White the last week or 2 but about 3 weeks ago i saw him playing in a Dutch tournament on a live internet stream and to be honest he didn't look like a player that will win a World Championship. He was well beat in the 2 games he played and averaged in the low to mid 80's only.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭Jake The Fat Ma


    Tony O'Shea should win the lakeside with ease,just as long he gets by Robbie Green,I reckon this will be his hardest match.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭cooker3


    That is 1 top heavy prizepool


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 554 ✭✭✭spongeman


    Cash is King and money talks. Get ready for the defections.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭superref


    Darryl Fitton a good each way bet he is always there or thereabouts plus he is in good form coming into the tournment ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭dartbhoy


    superref wrote: »
    Darryl Fitton a good each way bet he is always there or thereabouts plus he is in good form coming into the tournment ?
    Fitton won a Dutch tournament 3 weeks ago where all the top BDO players were playing. He beat Martin Adams in the final with an average in the high 90's and he beat Alan Norris in the semis with an average around 103! Defintley a player to look out for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭shockframe


    dartbhoy wrote: »
    Fitton won a Dutch tournament 3 weeks ago where all the top BDO players were playing. He beat Martin Adams in the final with an average in the high 90's and he beat Alan Norris in the semis with an average around 103! Defintley a player to look out for.

    fitton is a good player but he has failed to live up to expectations before.not to mention a tough first round game.

    o'shea has a great chance should he win tomorrow but with talk of a switch to the pdc id be wary of backing him.

    looks like the dream final - hankey v adamsicon6.gif


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭dartbhoy


    Day 1 of Lakeside kicks off today in a few hours time with Tony O'Shea v Robbie Green 1st game on. A lot of talk about O'Shea making a move to the PDC but personally i reckon he'll stay with the BDO because his in his late 40's now and making a move now might be of no great advantadge to him at this stage of his career. Robbie Green is a brilliant player and O'Shea will have to play at his very best to beat Green. The very much talked about Ian White also plays today against Stephen Bunting and White is odds on to win this game and is as low as 14/1 with 1 bookmaking firm to win the Lakeside outright. Hopefully we'll have a good day of darts and it's live on BBC 1 from 1 30pm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭Devastator


    hink the form and level headedness(is that even a word?) os Scott Waites in the GSOD could see him make an impact. I don't know how his form has been since, but if anything like he had few months back could nick it.

    He's joint favorite at 7/2 :confused:

    Waites I reckon is 100% certain PDC mover! If anyone remembers his interview after the GSOD match playing against Spankey. Aul Ted was giving his usual guff about crowds, blah blah and Waits stood next to him and stared at the floor. He looked like he didn't want to be there and was afraid of being asked(obviously not to upset anyone). Even when Ted looked to him for support he kept quiet.

    dartbhoy wrote: »
    Day 1 of Lakeside kicks off today in a few hours time with Tony O'Shea v Robbie Green 1st game on. A lot of talk about O'Shea making a move to the PDC but personally i reckon he'll stay with the BDO because his in his late 40's now and making a move now might be of no great advantadge to him at this stage of his career.


    late 40's, so he has maybe 5 years at the very top? A player of his quality could make £500k in that time....which would set him up for the rest of his life.

    Personally.....I would consider the potential to earn that kind of money as a great advantage


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 79 ✭✭CORRO77


    The only reason these players are still playing in this is that they know there not good enough to play with the taylors lewis barneys of this world if they were they would leave the BDO.No disrespect to the players in the Bdo There good players in there own right but put them in the Pdc and see just how good they really are.Half of them i have never even heard of you have the usual suspects fitton hankey adams o shea walton.Why are they still playing for buttons in the Bdo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭shockframe


    anybody know of a good link to watch it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭shockframe


    CORRO77 wrote: »
    The only reason these players are still playing in this is that they know there not good enough to play with the taylors lewis barneys of this world if they were they would leave the BDO.No disrespect to the players in the Bdo There good players in there own right but put them in the Pdc and see just how good they really are.Half of them i have never even heard of you have the usual suspects fitton hankey adams o shea walton.Why are they still playing for buttons in the Bdo.

    Every year we have this stupid debate.look sky have been saying this every year since 1994 but time and time again the bdo players prove themselves to be decent players.

    were you one of the many people who said in 2006 that the likes of barneveld,king,anderson,webster,whitlock,stompe couldnt cut it in the pdc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭shockframe


    BBC showing favourtism towards wolfie already.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭dotsflan


    this is fairly pathetic after watching the pdc the last few days!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭shockframe


    dotsflan wrote: »
    this is fairly pathetic after watching the pdc the last few days!!

    ok granted it wasnt whitlock and wade standard and the missed doubles were terrible but it had its moments aswell.good few 180s.the last 16 is where it gets going.

    green should have won that.o sheas scoring was very poor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭shockframe


    not a bad game here either.woods is a good scorer but brutal on the doubles.ten berge just needs to hold his throw.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭shockframe


    must have put the jinx on ten berge.brian woods was very good around 95 average.

    disappointed for ten berge but he has a future in the game.a bit erratic on the throw.similar to klaasen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭shockframe


    Plastic bats ahoy.its ted at the oche.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,984 ✭✭✭Degag


    Lol at the BBC commentators calling his performance "clinical"..... He didn't play badly by any matter of means - averaged just above 90 i think - but certainly not clinical:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭shockframe


    Degag wrote: »
    Lol at Tony Green calling his performance "clinical"..... He didn't play badly by any matter of means - averaged just above 90 i think - but certainly not clinical:pac:

    Fixed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,984 ✭✭✭Degag


    shockframe wrote: »
    Fixed

    Is Tony Green not a BBC commentator now or something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭shockframe


    Degag wrote: »
    Is Tony Green not a BBC commentator now or something?

    i dont think croft is that bad.its green thats been a fool.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,984 ✭✭✭Degag


    shockframe wrote: »
    i dont think croft is that bad.its green thats been a fool.

    That fella who is presenting the show is a pure numpty.... knows nothing about the game i'd say.... he presented some poker show years ago i remember....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭Devastator


    Degag wrote: »
    That fella who is presenting the show is a pure numpty.... knows nothing about the game i'd say.... he presented some poker show years ago i remember....


    that wee tosser colin murray was doing it today. last time I seen him he was presenting football on ch 5...seemed to know FA about football either


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭Antoine56


    Degag wrote: »
    Lol at the BBC commentators calling his performance "clinical"..... He didn't play badly by any matter of means - averaged just above 90 i think - but certainly not clinical:pac:

    Here we go again :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭brick tamland


    Was I the only one worried by hanky's shirt. he had so many buttons undone and showing so much chest belly, i couldnt eat my dinner


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭Antoine56


    1st Round (Best of 5 Sets)

    Ian White 0 - 27.96
    Stephen Bunting 3 - 30.54

    Tony O'Shea 3 - 28.86
    Robbie Green 2 - 28.69

    Joey ten Berge 2 - 29.84
    Brian Woods 3 - 31.91

    Alan Norris 2 - 30.08
    Robert Wagner 3 - 28.75

    John Walton 2 - 27.45
    Willy van de Wiel 3 - 26.29

    Ted Hankey 3 - 30.84
    Gary Robson 0 - 27.74


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭damo180


    didnt see all the darts today, but heard presenter saying to bobby george about a player being drunk playing, thought he said bunting (who i see won ) could anyone verify this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,984 ✭✭✭Degag


    damo180 wrote: »
    didnt see all the darts today, but heard presenter saying to bobby george about a player being drunk playing, thought he said bunting (who i see won ) could anyone verify this

    Yeah, he said he was "three sheets to thw wind!" Didn't see the match mind, so can't verify it.
    Antoine56 wrote: »
    Here we go again :rolleyes:

    No, i am not starting any BDO vs PDC discussion. In fact, that is all you are trying to do. All i was saying is that a 90 average is not clinical.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭dartbhoy


    Best performance of the day yesterday came from Brian Woods. Robbie Green could have won his game against Tony O'Shea,when he was 2-0 up in the 2nd set he missed loads of doubles to level the game 1-1 and from there he could have went on to win it. Ian White played poorly after been hyped up big time by Adrian Lewis. Overall there was plenty of high scoring but the double shooting was poor in most games. Today Scott Waites starts his championship with a 1st round game against Scotland's Paul Hanvidge. I reckon Scott could be a definte mover to the PDC. Game of the day should be Darryl Fitton v Dave Chisnall. Coverage starts on BBC 2 at 1 00pm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 79 ✭✭CORRO77


    shockframe wrote: »
    Every year we have this stupid debate.look sky have been saying this every year since 1994 but time and time again the bdo players prove themselves to be decent players.

    were you one of the many people who said in 2006 that the likes of barneveld,king,anderson,webster,whitlock,stompe couldnt cut it in the pdc.

    I think my point has been proven by yesterdays standard absolutely shocking Waltons game for instence.These are scores while the players were in the 400s 300s and 200s 26,27,43.45.6times 41, 4times 46 ,47,as for saying the above players wouldnt cut it in the pdc i think your argument just went downhill because your saying players who are playing in the pdc are alot better than bdo. were all intitled to our opinion and im not going to have a fight over yours and i hope you dont over mine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,882 ✭✭✭sc86


    shockframe wrote: »
    Every year we have this stupid debate.look sky have been saying this every year since 1994 but time and time again the bdo players prove themselves to be decent players.

    were you one of the many people who said in 2006 that the likes of barneveld,king,anderson,webster,whitlock,stompe couldnt cut it in the pdc.

    in fairness bar barney all the rest have had to raise there game considerably to compete in the pdc...

    i also found this hard to watch but its the 1st round and the 1st round of the pdc was bad aswell...
    scot waites is a cert for the pdc as will oshea, will it get to the stage where theres no1 left in the bdo any good?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭butter13222


    waites is throwing fair well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,337 ✭✭✭✭monkey9


    Yer man, Colin Murray, is wrecking me head. Whose bright idea was it to let him present the darts. He's brutal!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,984 ✭✭✭Degag


    CORRO77 wrote: »
    I think my point has been proven by yesterdays standard absolutely shocking Waltons game for instence.These are scores while the players were in the 400s 300s and 200s 26,27,43.45.6times 41, 4times 46 ,47,as for saying the above players wouldnt cut it in the pdc i think your argument just went downhill because your saying players who are playing in the pdc are alot better than bdo. were all intitled to our opinion and im not going to have a fight over yours and i hope you dont over mine.

    Yeah, not great. They both averaged around 80.... As it turns out though, 25 out of 64 players in the first round of the PDC World Championships averaged less than 85 with quite a few of them averaging considerably less.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭Devastator


    Degag wrote: »
    Yeah, not great. They both averaged around 80.... As it turns out though, 25 out of 64 players in the first round of the PDC World Championships averaged less than 85 with quite a few of them averaging considerably less.




    had to laugh earlier(can't remember who was playing) when a player on 146 checkout threw 46 and the commentator said "good darts there to leave himself on 100!"

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭shockframe


    Fitton out.beaten 3-1 by dave chisnall.

    chisnall played well.fitton missed lots of doubles.


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