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Electric shower and ordinary gravity shower

  • 29-12-2009 12:45pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 887 ✭✭✭


    I live in a dormer. The electric shower is in the en-suite and then in the downstairs en-suite there is an ordinary shower....as in gravity fed from tank in the attic.

    Question: Can you use the two showers at the one time? The electric is a Triton T90 and is fed from tank in the attic.

    Thanks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭ronaneire


    Yeah, your electric shower has a built in pump and most likely is fed from the mains. Whereas your gravity shower comes from your hot water supply i.e. hot tank or combi boiler.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,533 ✭✭✭✭Dan Jaman


    The T90 'should' have its own dedicated feed from the tank, but it's worth checking to see if it has. It's common for an installer to simply T off from an existing pipe (possibly even the gravity shower cold feed), which isn't a particularly good idea.
    IF it has its own seperate feed, there should be no problem running both showers at once.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 887 ✭✭✭suitseir


    Thanks.

    Yes the plumber did a good job and I know that the T90 has its own dedicated feed.

    The reason I ask is normally we are a small crowd in this house (2) and over the holiday period we have A LOT MORE BODIES around the place and what with THEY needing 24 hour warm house - too warm for me, they also seem to spend a lot of time in the showers. There is also a main bathroom, upstairs, in the house, which by and large, is never used, but as this has just a bath in it, and no one has time for a bath, the showers are getting the full whack at the moment.

    At least I know now! In any case, by end of the week it will be back to routine and I can't wait!:rolleyes:




    Dan Jaman wrote: »
    The T90 'should' have its own dedicated feed from the tank, but it's worth checking to see if it has. It's common for an installer to simply T off from an existing pipe (possibly even the gravity shower cold feed), which isn't a particularly good idea.
    IF it has its own seperate feed, there should be no problem running both showers at once.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    You cannot fit 2 pumped electric showers in a house without a special electric switch preventing both being used together.

    You can use a pumped electiric and a power shower if you wish but the power shower does not heat the water.

    I would consider it dodgy plumbing to take a T off the same pipe for 2 pumped electric showers but seen as though you cannot use both together why not.

    It is strongly rec by all shower manufacturs that electric showers power showers or pumped electric showers have there own feeds as water starvation will burn the shower out.

    The electric aspect can be better explained in the electrical section. I am not an electrician but know the rules just not the lingo.


    In your situation it is normal to have a gravity fed shower and a pumped electric shower and yes if you so wish both can be used together. Provided a. They are not on the same feed and B. there is enough hot water for the gravity one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 887 ✭✭✭suitseir


    Hi, thanks for that but you may have mis-read or I may have not explained myself properly.

    I have two showers - one is the Triton which is upstairs in the en-suite. The other shower is in the downstairs en-suite which is NOT electric and NOT a pump shower. It is an ordinary one, as in, it is fed from the hot water tank and has a good flow, in fact, it is the preferred one in this house. And my question was, can both be used at the same time.

    Cheers.:)










    You cannot fit 2 pumped electric showers in a house without a special electric switch preventing both being used together.

    You can use a pumped electiric and a power shower if you wish but the power shower does not heat the water.

    I would consider it dodgy plumbing to take a T off the same pipe for 2 pumped electric showers but seen as though you cannot use both together why not.

    It is strongly rec by all shower manufacturs that electric showers power showers or pumped electric showers have there own feeds as water starvation will burn the shower out.

    The electric aspect can be better explained in the electrical section. I am not an electrician but know the rules just not the lingo.


    In your situation it is normal to have a gravity fed shower and a pumped electric shower and yes if you so wish both can be used together. Provided a. They are not on the same feed and B. there is enough hot water for the gravity one


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    Understood you correctly just gave you extra information.

    Yes both can be used once you have a supply of hot water for the gravity shower and they are not working off the same feed. The feed prob is highly unlikely unless plumbed incorrectly.

    Enjoy
    suitseir wrote: »
    Hi, thanks for that but you may have mis-read or I may have not explained myself properly.

    I have two showers - one is the Triton which is upstairs in the en-suite. The other shower is in the downstairs en-suite which is NOT electric and NOT a pump shower. It is an ordinary one, as in, it is fed from the hot water tank and has a good flow, in fact, it is the preferred one in this house. And my question was, can both be used at the same time.

    Cheers.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 887 ✭✭✭suitseir


    Thanks Joey!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 554 ✭✭✭James Delaney


    You cannot fit 2 pumped electric showers in a house without a special electric switch preventing both being used together.

    You can use a pumped electiric and a power shower if you wish but the power shower does not heat the water.

    I would consider it dodgy plumbing to take a T off the same pipe for 2 pumped electric showers but seen as though you cannot use both together why not.

    It is strongly rec by all shower manufacturs that electric showers power showers or pumped electric showers have there own feeds as water starvation will burn the shower out.

    The electric aspect can be better explained in the electrical section. I am not an electrician but know the rules just not the lingo.


    In your situation it is normal to have a gravity fed shower and a pumped electric shower and yes if you so wish both can be used together. Provided a. They are not on the same feed and B. there is enough hot water for the gravity one

    (***************
    Joey I know its a few yrs since u posted the above.
    I would be interested to hear your view on the following project'.
    I have a power shower in an ensuite where the water must be preheated using the emersion or gas supply.

    I have just become disabled and I need to turn the ensuite into a wet room. I prefer to have an instant shower rather than wait for the water to heat up & in this regard I'm considering installing a Triton T90 Electric Shower while retaining the Power Shower.
    Also the nossel for the power pumped shower is built high into the wall - there is no hose - so its impractical for a disabled person.

    So given only 1 shower would b in use at any1 time it probably makes sense to take a T off the power shower especially as the piping route for a separate feed is awkward - What ya think ?

    A 'breaker' off course would be installed for the T90


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,189 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    (*************** Joey I know its a few yrs since u posted the above. I would be interested to hear your view on the following project'. I have a power shower in an ensuite where the water must be preheated using the emersion or gas supply.

    Joey was pointing out that 2 electric showers run at the same time is too much for a house. It would blow the ESB fuse and ESB would need to come out to replace it.
    Your setup is fine as you only have one electric shower. It's perfectly safe to use the electric & power showers at the same time.


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