Dell ST2410 24" Full HD Widescreen Monitor = 183 Euro

spanner_head

How ya boardsies...

I'm in the market for a new monitor and came across this...I might just take the plunge...

Dell ST2410 24” Full HD Widescreen Monitor = 183 Euro

Linky

Some Specs...

DISPLAY

Panel Size:
24"
Aspect Ratio
Widescreen (16:9)
Panel Type:
TN – Twisted Nematic
Optimal Resolution:
1920 x 1080 at 60Hz
Contrast Ratio:
Dynamic Contrast Ratio 50000:1 (max)
Brightness:
250 cd/m2 (typical)
Response Time:
5ms
Viewing Angle
(160 vertical / 160 horizontal)
Colour Support:
16.7 million colours
Pixel Pitch:
0.277 mm
Display Type
Anti-glare
Device Type
Full HD Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor

CONNECTIVITY

High Definition Multimedia Interface (HDMI)
Digital Visual Interface - Digital (DVI-D) with High Definition Content Protection (HDCP)
Video Graphics Array (VGA)

Ghost Train

one negative is the tn type display, reduces colour performance a bit, but that what helps bring the price down
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFT_LCD#Twisted_nematic_.28TN.29

slave1

remembered this post and just ordered one, still at this price

Tragedy

Pity it's TN, not going from IPS to it even though I want an upgrade!

peckerhead

As a possible alternative, what do you reckon about this for GB£121.73 (€136) delivered? 1920x1080 resolution and DVI. It seems to get fairly good reviews, but Digimate isn't what you'd call a top brand.

spanner_head

Tragedy wrote: »

Pity it's TN, not going from IPS to it even though I want an upgrade!

Any good deals (under €200) for IPS panels?

Tragedy

spanner_head wrote: »

Any good deals (under €200) for IPS panels?

Wish I knew! I spent €480 for my 20.5" monitor 2 years ago. Well worth it though

Nollog

peckerhead wrote: »

As a possible alternative, what do you reckon about this for GB£121.73 (€136) delivered? 1920x1080 resolution and DVI. It seems to get fairly good reviews, but Digimate isn't what you'd call a top brand.

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/monitors/268645/digimate-l-2362wd

No HDCP means a 1/10 if you ever plan to watch a BD movie or play a newish game on anything other than VGA.

Tragedy

/\/ollog wrote: »

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/monitors/268645/digimate-l-2362wd

No HDCP means a 1/10 if you ever plan to watch a BD movie or play a newish game on anything other than VGA.

What? It has HDMI, what does HDCP have to do with playing a newish game?

milltown

Tragedy wrote: »

What? It has HDMI, what does HDCP have to do with playing a newish game?

I only see VGA and DVI mentioned in the specs. This is Peckerhead's Ebuyer link btw.

Tragedy

milltown wrote: »

I only see VGA and DVI mentioned in the specs. This is Peckerhead's Ebuyer link btw.

Oops, I actually meant to say DVI.

I still don't see the problem with lack of HDCP and new games?

(DVI is basically the same as HDMI, only it doesn't carry audio and uses a different jack)

quiche

spanner_head wrote: »

Any good deals (under €200) for IPS panels?

You'd be lucky to find an IPS panel shipping to Ireland for less than €400... here's (i think) a Dell 22" widescreen e-IPS:

http://accessories.euro.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=ie&l=en&cs=iedhs1&sku=198660

price €423

Nollog

Tragedy wrote: »

What? It has HDMI, what does HDCP have to do with playing a newish game?

I've seen a game or two saying it needed HDCP.
Maybe I dreamt/had a nightmare about it... dunno.

HDCP is needed in connecting digital to digital, it was supposed to make sure everything works fine, but it can be a pain if one (device) doesn't have HDCP, and the other does.

Tragedy

HDCP is nothing to do with making things work.
Also, some DVI devices can support HDCP.

But as I said, it has nothing to do with gaming - it's more to do with movies and tv.

pauly3

I bought this monitor (the Dell ST2410) last week and I must say it is a very fine panel. It has VGA, DVI and HDMI connectors, also audio passthru and a place to add a soundbar. I recommend the AS500 from Ebay, best of the Dell soundbars.

The screen is crisp and well-calibrated from the go, though there are plenty of options in the menu to calibrate it yourself if you choose.

Reviews here:

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Monitors/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-1070#reviews

Jimmyboss

Looks like a massive buy!!!!
As for the soundbar, if you've got any contacts in the US, check this out.....

http://www.iso-technologies.com/shop/proddetail.php?prod=4Y463

Euro_Kraut

This looks like a bargin. Would this is good for playing Xbox 360 on? Thats basically what I would be getting a HD TV or monitor for.

jcrowbar

Euro_Kraut wrote: »

This looks like a bargin. Would this is good for playing Xbox 360 on? Thats basically what I would be getting a HD TV or monitor for.

I have a similar Dell monitor connected to my 360 via HDMI and it's perfect.

peckerhead

In that case, Mr Dell, I sink ve kan do business, yes?

I deserve a nice easy online purchase after all that queuing up outside Aldi last week... :pac:

Linoge

I am very tempted by this, have been waiting to buy a 24" with HDMI for a while.

I have looked at the description and cant find this. Can anyone tell me if the response time is 5ms G2G? Some posters were saying that they are going to buy this for gaming, but surely 5ms isn;t ideal, or is that a load or marketing crap by the 2ms pushers and 5ms is actually fine?

shoutman

Also after picking one up.
Thanks OP!

Euro_Kraut

Went ahead and ordered one of these too. Will let you know how it works out. There is a 7 Day return policy if it is not up to scratch.

ozt9vdujny3srf

The Dell 2209WA is available a good bit cheaper from a lot of the UK e-tailers:
http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=2209wa

It has an e-IPS panel (cheaper IPS, but still a lot better then TN IMO).
I bought it for 200 sterling before christmas, but it seems to have gone up in price over the last while. Its a lovely monitor, the only downside that I have found is the fact that the backlight is very bright.
There is piles of info on it across the web, in particular a ch (with a huge thread on the hardcop forus about it (couldnt find it with a quick google but it's there)

eman66

How does the Dell compare to this IIyama? Would they be much the same?

http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=481233

letitroll

Forgive my ignorance could you connect a UPC box to this.

Like does it have a scart connection the UPC box has the tuner so should just output the picture

Euro_Kraut

Guadalupe Millions Underachiever wrote: »

The Dell 2209WA is available a good bit cheaper from a lot of the UK e-tailers:
http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=2209wa

The cheapest I see for that product is £205 ex vat and delivery charges.

slave1

sitting here in front of my new Dell 24", spiffing value IMO, comes with a 3 year exchange service too

ozt9vdujny3srf

Euro_Kraut wrote: »

The cheapest I see for that product is £205 ex vat and delivery charges.

Yup, as I said it has gone up in price since I bought it. can be got for approx 250euros delivered though, which is a lot better then dell's 400 euros.

Papa_Lazarou

linky

Saw this on Dabs earlier. Its 5ms as some people were talking about earlier for the gaming

BenQ 24" G2420HD 5ms DVI HDMI HD LCD TFT

Max resolution of 1920 x 1080



Is this any good? Buying a new screen in preparation of a new build next month.

paddyp

eman66 wrote: »

How does the Dell compare to this IIyama? Would they be much the same?

http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=481233

As far as the komplett specifications go its vga only!

shoutman

Ordered this two days ago and it arrived today!
Very nice so it is.

Euro_Kraut

shoutman wrote: »

Ordered this two days ago and it arrived today!
Very nice so it is.

No fair! Mine hasn't arrived yet. Wont have my fancy monitor for the weekend

Take it it is working out well for you?

shoutman

Yep, does the job, still have to go up to power city and get a hdmi cable for it though, then i'll have dual monitors, totally unnecessary, but I wouldn't have it any other way.

Tweaky

Took the plunge !!! Thanks OP

ablelocks

fyi, this monitor got a sunday times best buy in todays in gear section. i can't find an online link to the article - but here's a selection of comments :

dell was the best all rounder....(still) image quality is excellent, with bright colours and fine contrast and detail. fast moving games were blur free and it was good with video too...more energy efficient than most rivals....excellent value for money

Tweaky

http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/personal_tech/article6989649.ece

Link to the article above that Ablelocks refers to - I'm even happier that I ordered one now !!!

Euro_Kraut

This arrived late on Friday so had it for the weekend after all.

Its excellent. Playing an Xbox on HD is a whole different experiece. Thanks OP for the tip!

peckerhead

Just took mine out of the box. It only comes with the standard VGA lead, so I'll need to pick up a HDMI cable.

If I want to switch input easily between the Xbox and the PC, where should I look for one of those 3-way switchers?

Euro_Kraut

peckerhead wrote: »

Just took mine out of the box. It only comes with the standard VGA lead, so I'll need to pick up a HDMI cable.

As far as I know HDMI cables are normally sold seperaty. Don't go spending anything over €15 on one though. A cheap cable delivers the same picture quality as an expensive one, depite what some guy in PC World might say

peckerhead

Oh indeed!

I'm thinking two of these and one of these. Look OK?

melekalikimaka

watch out on this. its cheap for a reason, anyone into video or photo editing i'd give this a miss

HoPpiE

I think I'd like to buy this but am not sure yet.

Anyone used it with a PS3?

Rev. Kitchen

peckerhead wrote: »

Just took mine out of the box. It only comes with the standard VGA lead, so I'll need to pick up a HDMI cable.

If I want to switch input easily between the Xbox and the PC, where should I look for one of those 3-way switchers?

Aldi had them i know the shop in castletroy Limerick still has about 15 left so i reckon a good root around the Aldi's might unearth one. Think they where 15 euro.

Euro_Kraut

melekalikimaka wrote: »

watch out on this. its cheap for a reason, anyone into video or photo editing i'd give this a miss

Why?

ablelocks

melekalikimaka wrote: »

watch out on this. its cheap for a reason, anyone into video or photo editing i'd give this a miss

why so? and can you recommend a monitor for photo editing then?

melekalikimaka

The ST2410 is cheap compared to high end monitors of the same size because it is NOT a high end monitor. It uses a cheap TN type panel, which is not recommended for photo editing. The main problem with TN panels is the (very) small viewing angle, which causes you to see uneven lighting across the screen. Also, colors do not display the same way when viewed from a different angle. These characteristics are particularly undesirable when working with photos on a (fairly) large screen.

The DELL Ultrasharp U2410 would be a much better choice for photo editing, but I must admit that this is not a truly cheap monitor. It offers excellent value for money, though. A similarly good choice in the "midprice" range of monitors would be the HP LP2475W. Both these monitors have IPS type panels, which are generally considered to be the best choice for serious photo (and video) editing.

Euro_Kraut

melekalikimaka wrote: »

The DELL Ultrasharp U2410 would be a much better choice for photo editing, but I must admit that this is not a truly cheap monitor. It offers excellent value for money, though. A similarly good choice in the "midprice" range of monitors would be the HP LP2475W. Both these monitors have IPS type panels, which are generally considered to be the best choice for serious photo (and video) editing.

And how much does that cost?

melekalikimaka

Euro_Kraut wrote: »

And how much does that cost?

alot more. just a heads up bout the quality of the screens. I'm sure theres cheaper, it depends on what ya want the screen for, for games and movies i'd be all for this, photos, id steer clear

Euro_Kraut

melekalikimaka wrote: »

alot more. just a heads up bout the quality of the screens. I'm sure theres cheaper, it depends on what ya want the screen for, for games and movies i'd be all for this, photos, id steer clear

Just checked. Its €664

Really not in the same league at all. Like comparing a Fiat Punto to a Merc. It seems to be that this is an excellent value entry level monitor.

melekalikimaka

Euro_Kraut wrote: »

Just checked. Its €664

Really not in the same league at all. Like comparing a Fiat Punto to a Merc. It seems to be that this is an excellent value entry level monitor.

large crt would be better quality, its a big poor quality screen, depends what your after

bohspunks

got one of these, definite issue with it being dark if you are looking at the screen from below - fine if you sit upright at a desk but a pain if you want to watch a film and you want to sink down in your sofa.