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Nobody at the head of OCU, Traffic, and many more due to recruitment ban

  • 24-12-2009 2:42am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭


    from http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/1223/garda.html - very concerning if the situation is as it reads, tbh. Something will have to be done if AGS is losing 1,000 members a year, almost?
    Vacant senior garda positions, responsible for investigating and prosecuting terrorism and gang crime cannot be filled because of a Government embargo on recruitment and promotion.

    The heads of the Organised Crime Unit, the Special Detective Unit, the Limerick Division, the National Traffic Unit and the Technical Bureau have all retired in the last month and have not been replaced.

    800 members have retired from the force this year and there are also vacancies at senior level in Sligo, Mayo, Clare and Cork.

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    More than 200 other serving gardaí who have been told they would be promoted have not been - despite vacancies at the rank of sergeant, inspector, superintendent, chief superintendent and assistant commissioner.

    The Department of Justice said last night the Minister was aware of the situation but there was no definite commitment to fill any of the vacancies.

    Garda associations said the Government has created a crisis within the force.

    Today there is no dedicated Chief Superintendent in charge of the Organised Crime Unit, which tackles Ireland's criminal gangs.

    There is no chief in charge of the Technical Bureau, which examines serious crime scenes, no chief in Community Policing and with the Christmas road safety campaign under way there is no Assistant Commissioner in charge of the National Traffic Bureau.

    Officers have been forced to double up all over the country, with three chiefs covering the western seaboard from Donegal to Kerry - in an area where there should be seven.

    There are over 20 vacancies at superintendent rank all over the country and in the Fraud and National Drugs Units.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 923 ✭✭✭djtechnics1210


    id say it will get worse before it gets better.
    theres so much talk in the news every couple of days about ocu, national drugs etc,i thought there would be a couple of the same rank at the top of the unit.

    with the way crime is gone in the country, ags would want to fill those positions quickly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭Corcioch


    As long as Murphy remains in Charge the Force will find itself completely at the mercy of Gov.

    We need a Commissioner who will stand up to this decimation of numbers, budgets and cessation of recruitment. . . . .


    and say NO!!!, we cannot run the Force under these manpower conditions!!!!!! . . .
    . .they are all yes men at the top I know but he is the King of all Yes men . . . .

    He'll take what ever they throw at us and simply reply by telling us all to carry the burden more!!!! . . . .


    Christ we were short staffed before any of this craic started!!!!!!! . . . .


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,601 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    Corcioch wrote: »
    As long as Murphy remains in Charge the Force will find itself completely at the mercy of Gov.

    Cannot see that happening for sometime, considering the appointment is basically a political one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭Hooch


    Corcioch wrote: »
    and say NO!!!, we cannot run the Force under these manpower conditions!!!!!! . . .
    . .they are all yes men at the top I know but he is the King of all Yes men . . . .

    So was Conroy.....and Byrne.....and Culligan and so on and so on.....

    Thats why they were appointed the top man.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭Corcioch


    So was Conroy.....and Byrne.....and Culligan and so on and so on.....

    Thats why they were appointed the top man.;)


    There are varying levels here though . . . . . . . Publicly Yes they are chosen as they will do as they are told, that's been the way since the foundation of the state and will continue to be the way until we have fundamental reform . . . . . .but even some of them have had a spine to stand up to the Gov behind closed doors and try to get a bit more for us, to speak up some bit on our behalf . . . . to tell a Gov that the plan just wont work. . . .before then coming out in full support for what ever the latest Gov move was.


    The man who is there now is widely acknowledged as being one of the most subservient of all, of all who have gone before him. . . . . no wonder there is a possibility of an extension of term of office beyond the mandatory retirement age.


    <snip>

    Mod edit by psni: No confidential information may be posted on this forum. Ta.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭Delancey


    Corcioch wrote: »
    . .they are all yes men at the top I know but he is the King of all Yes men . . . .

    In fairness to the present commisioner it could be argued that in all modern European democracies the Police remain firmly under political control and thus the senior leadership can appear to be ' Yes Men ' but practically speaking they are at the mercy of the political leadership.
    I remember a Garda Commissioner being dismissed in mysterious circumstances in the 1970's - he subsequently sued the state which settled out of court to prevent details being publicly aired.
    Is it perhaps a tad unfair on the current Garda leadership to label them as ' Yes Men ' ?


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