January ZV registrations

BSPOKE20

Hi folks,

Anyone aware of the speed of ZV registrations in January of a new year - do they fly up as another batch of cars become classics?

MorrisCooper

It doesn't work that way. ZV regs aren't released on an annual basis

macplaxton

I see where you're coming from, but it doesn't shoot up in the New Year, it's a constant trickle as there are cars reaching their 30th birthday throughout the year.

Why you ask anyway?

dillontobin

hi zv is only import cars from england or what ever.old irish reg eighter have a z or i in them but zv not inclueded

MorrisCooper

ZV was an old Dublin registration long before they started the 87C reg system.

BSPOKE20

Thanks all for your input, I know ZV plates are not an annual thing, however when a car registered in 1980 will on the 1st of January 2010 become 30 years old, it becomes a classic and the owner has the option to give it a classic ZV plate. Thus there are surely many 1980 car owners out there who will opt for this, and it also opens up the UK market for 1980 cars to be brought in from the UK for €50 VRT.

However my query really is the pace of registration of the ZV's, reason being I have a 30 year old car that is on eg. 78 D XXX, I have my eye on a ZV plate that will suit my car and going by cartell.ie its not too far away. So I need to be on the ball and register my car with immpecable timing, so that I get the plate I want.

And yes I've checked and ZV reg's can't be booked, and anyway i wouldn't have the €1,000 booking fee to give to Brian Cowen.

macplaxton

I'm guess they go at about 2 or 3 a day for Dublin. Which reminds me I must get my act together and get my DAF registered. You never know, I might be getting your number :pac::p

BSPOKE20 wrote: »

Thanks all for your input, I know ZV plates are not an annual thing, however when a car registered in 1980 will on the 1st of January 2010 become 30 years old, it becomes a classic and the owner has the option to give it a classic ZV plate. Thus there are surely many 1980 car owners out there who will opt for this, and it also opens up the UK market for 1980 cars to be brought in from the UK for €50 VRT.

Still irrelevant, as a car first registered on 31st December 1980, won't have the option to get a ZV until 31st December 2010. So it's still a trickle rather than flood. There are plenty of folk who don't opt for ZVs as well.

Dades

OP, I think the only thing you have to go on is the rate you've been watching so far.

Though the fact that eligibility doesn't go on the calender year but on the date of first registration is probably in your favour - as you won't lose your number in a January rush.

What number are they at now, and how often is cartell updated?

overdriver

They can't even tell you in the office when you're at the desk what reg you'll get, so you'd want to be VERY lucky to get the exact one you're after.

They will sell it to you if you like. For around a grand, I think I recall.

I recently got zv 447 and 448 registering two cars in Dublin for Cavan, but she couldn't say while she was registering 447 that i'd get 448 for the other one.

Fishtits

MorrisCooper wrote: »

ZV was an old Dublin registration long before they started the 87C reg system.

Really?

BSPOKE20

Are you sure that a car becomes deemed a classic on it's exact "birthday" +30 years? Would it not just go by the year. For a car first registered in June 1980 would you have to wait till June 2010 until it becomes a classic, versus simple maths 1980 - 2010 = 30 years - becomes a classic in January....?

unkel

BSPOKE20 wrote: »

Are you sure that a car becomes deemed a classic on it's exact "birthday" +30 years?

"Deemed a classic" is not an objective term

All cars are classics for motor tax when they are 30 years old. Some cars are classics for insurance when they are 15 years old (like Ferraris or Porsches), others when they are much older than that.

macplaxton

BSPOKE20 wrote: »

Are you sure that a car becomes deemed a classic on it's exact "birthday" +30 years? Would it not just go by the year. For a car first registered in June 1980 would you have to wait till June 2010 until it becomes a classic, versus simple maths 1980 - 2010 = 30 years - becomes a classic in January....?

A vehicle qualifies for "vintage"* motor tax (the Revenue's expression, not mine ) concession rates generally on the 30th anniversary of it's first worldwide date of registration**.

*A Vintage car is quite specific term for one built between 1919 and 1930
**There are exceptions, probably, but maybe only where there's a huge discrepancy between the year of manufacture and first registration date

hi5

I was wondering about this myself,particularly with new cars,could you actually stand around in the office and wait for a nod from a member of staff when the reg you want comes up.this would be a way around not paying the thousand Euros providing the number wasnt already booked:)

MorrisCooper

Years ago I was after ZV1500 for a 1960 Sunbeam Alpine I had imported. I waited months for it to go from ZV1494.... The VRO in Galway were very helpful and would let me know whenever I rang up. Finally I rang on Friday afternoon to hear that ZV1499 had been issued. I headed home to Galway that weekend and got ZV1500 on the Monday morning. Later that year I came on another Sunbeam Alpine with ZV1499. The owner was disgusted when he saw ZV1500 on my car. He felt his reg was like a Dunnes Stores pricetag.

carchaeologist

Fishtits wrote: »

Really?

Yep..AZV1 to YZV999 were issued between March '85 and January '86.
ZV was to have been the next issue after ZS,but ZS wasnt exhausted before January 1st 1987.