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The Mucky Duck

  • 21-12-2009 12:49pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭


    Anyone ever been in here? When you read a story like this you really have to wonder what world the judiciary are living in. Surely a strong garda objection is reason enough not to grant a pub licence.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 314 ✭✭allimac


    No harm to let these lads have their own place if it keeps them away from other places.Still though where do these judges get their ideas from?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭mike kelly


    allimac wrote: »
    No harm to let these lads have their own place if it keeps them away from other places.Still though where do these judges get their ideas from?

    Maybe it will encourage them to expand. Perhaps they could offer a security service for pubs and clubs as next. This kind of thing needs to be nipped in the bud.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭Itsdacraic


    Surely it would be likely target for attack from the rival gangs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭mike kelly


    Itsdacraic wrote: »
    Surely it would be likely target for attack from the rival gangs?

    I suppose that was part of the motivation for the "peace deal".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,534 ✭✭✭sioda


    Its closed awful place altogether


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭mike kelly


    sioda wrote: »
    Its closed awful place altogether

    must be going to reopen if they have applied for a licence


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭Raiser


    allimac wrote: »
    No harm to let these lads have their own place if it keeps them away from other places.Still though where do these judges get their ideas from?

    Exactly - We need the Mucky Duck as a containment unit for these Cnuts; Its not as though if the liscense is not renewed they are going to decide to stay home and embroider hankies.......

    - The Judiciary in Ireland are for the most part Morons. This fact is re-enforced by every third Court report published in our local and national Press.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 967 ✭✭✭Jigga


    allimac wrote: »
    No harm to let these lads have their own place if it keeps them away from other places.Still though where do these judges get their ideas from?
    Was it not a bar man that got his throat slit? They should be able to make an honest living without being attacked by these vermin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭mike kelly


    Jigga wrote: »
    Was it not a bar man that got his throat slit? They should be able to make an honest living without being attacked by these vermin.

    I thought it was one of the Caseys, after they caused trouble there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 967 ✭✭✭Jigga


    mike kelly wrote: »
    I thought it was one of the Caseys, after they caused trouble there.
    Possibly, I don't know, if it was one of that clan that you mention than I say kudos to whoever did it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭eyebrows63


    mike kelly wrote: »
    must be going to reopen if they have applied for a licence
    it,s already open and the same barman as when the collopy,s had the lease is still there


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 967 ✭✭✭Jigga


    http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/Three-Collopy-brothers-in-Limerick.6045033.jp :rolleyes:

    Lets hope a few more of them have a go at the Russian Roulette


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Jigga wrote: »
    http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/Three-Collopy-brothers-in-Limerick.6045033.jp :rolleyes:

    Lets hope a few more of them have a go at the Russian Roulette

    That story says published 6th Feb 2010 - does this mean it has'nt happened yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭Raiser


    Mc Love wrote: »
    That story says published 6th Feb 2010 - does this mean it has'nt happened yet?

    The Limerick Leader - Photos from 50 years ago, balanced by articles from the future.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭ReefBreak


    The judge fined Mr Collopy €250.
    You've got to be sh*tting me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭mike kelly


    This is the same judge that gave them the licence in the first place?
    Actually this is quite a heavy fine for being on a premises after hours. Normally they just ask you to leave (as I know only too well). I do remember one fellow being brought to court a few years back and getting a £2.50 fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭mike kelly


    Big story on this in the Sunday World this week

    BADDEST PUB IN IRELAND

    Lawless Limerick lounge is headquarters for one of the country's most violent and ruthless gangs

    brian-collopy-2.jpgRUNNING THE SHOW: Brian Collopy behind The Mucky Duck bar
    RUNNING THE SHOW: Brian Collopy behind The Mucky Duck bar

    IT looks, from the outside, like any other respectable city-centre bar. But this lawless pub is Ireland's answer to Tony Soprano's Bada Bing Club.For the last 18 months, The Mucky Duck in Limerick has seen drugs seizures, violent brawls, a vicious stabbing and dozens of garda raids.
    Gardai claim the pub is being controlled by the notorious Keane/Collopy gang and that there has been "a total breakdown of the law" in the bar.
    Crimelord

    This exclusive picture shows feared crimelord Brian Collopy pulling pints for his pals in the once-quiet city centre bar.
    By day, feared mobster Collopy (37) is leader of one of Limerick's two feuding violent drug gangs.
    The chubby gangster ruthlessly controls the Keane/Collopy crime family who are locked in a bloody 12 year war with their rivals, the McCarthy-Dundons. But by night, Collopy can be found doling out the drinks for his crew in the Mucky Duck - dubbed Ireland's dodgiest pub by locals.
    Gardai claim senior members of the feuding mob can be found drinking after hours in the pub almost every night of the week.
    kieran-collopy.jpgA LOCK IN: Kieran Collopy and friends in The Mucky Duck bar
    A LOCK IN: Kieran Collopy and friends in The Mucky Duck bar

    A source said: "The Collopys name is not on the licence but they have a huge influence in how the pub is run."The door is locked some of the time and you have to ring a buzzer to get it.
    "They are in there after hours getting pissed every night of the week, they don't even bother answering the door if there is a raid - God help any tourist who ends up in there by accident."
    He added: "It is out of control, a guy had his throat slit in there last year and by the time gardai got there the floor had been bleached clean."
    The pub is being investigated by the Criminal Assets Bureau (CAB) as profilers attempt to piece together a list of the assets acquired by the Collopy gang.
    Gardai believe Collopy and his crew are controlling The Mucky Duck - just like Tony Soprano controlled Bada Bing Club in the smash-hit US Mafia series, The Sopranos.
    Last week, gangster Brian Collopy was fined in Limerick District Court after he was caught serving drink at the Mucky Duck bar at 7 o'clock in the morning in April 2009.
    At the same court sitting, Brian's brother, Jonathan, was also fined for shutting the door on gardai who called to inspect in the early hours of June 26th.
    Contempt

    In court, Inspector Seamus Gallagher said gardai were treated with contempt whenever they tried to inspect the Mucky Duck.
    He said: "The gardai were made fools of."
    Detective Sgt Ronan McDonagh also told how he was refused entry by Jonathan when he called to inspect the pub at 1.25am last June.
    "Jonathan Collopy came to the door and opened it, saw that it was us and shut the door."
    mucky-duck-christmas-day.jpgOPEN ALL HOURS: Mucky Duck was open on Christmas Day
    OPEN ALL HOURS: Mucky Duck was open on Christmas Day

    In another exclusive image, Brian's brother, Kieran, can be seen boozing with pals in the pub. In 2003, Kieran narrowly escaped with his life after members of the McCarthy/Dundon gang planned to murder him.The feuding mobsters abducted Kieran Keane and his nephew Owen Treacy and tried to use them to lure brothers Kieran and Philip Collopy into a trap. But they refused and Keane was shot dead.
    The photograph seems to have been taken inside The Mucky Duck on Christmas Day - despite the fact it is illegal to serve alcohol on that day.
    Brian Collopy has headed up the Collopy/Keane faction since his pal godfather Kieran Keane was murdered in 2003.
    In 2006, he narrowly survived an assasination attempt after he was shot twice in a drive-by shooting while walking in a laneway near the city centre. He has also been hit with a bill from CAB for over €500,000 for drug-dealing and the illegal sale of guns.
    In 2005, CAB seized and sold a threebedroom home belonging to him - Ashby House, in Fedamore, Co Limerick, for €225,000.
    The crime bureau was awarded possession of the property in the High Court under the Proceeds of Crime Act. But now, gardai claim Collopy has added bar-keeping to his "business" interests.
    Licence

    kieran-collopy-2.jpgSMILING: Kieran Collopy in the Duck
    SMILING: Kieran Collopy in the Duck

    In January, former publican Michael Joyce (25) - who held the pub licence for the Mucky Duck - was fined €5,000 for breaching the licensing laws and for failing to allow gardai enter the pub. Garda Patrick O'Hanlon told the court how he was refused access when he called to the pub on 3 March 2009. He said he could hear people shouting "gardai" inside the bar when he arrived at the scene but nobody answered the door.
    "They could hear us," he told the court. "We clearly identified ourselves as gardai."
    Solicitor Ted McCarthy said his client, Mr Joyce,was not in control of the pub - despite having his name on the licence.
    "He bit off more than he could chew, from very early on, he had difficulty controlling the bar and the customers. He found it almost impossible."
    The court heard that when it came to closing time, Mr Joyce would go home, leaving the Mucky Duck open. In September 2009, he closed the premises with another three months to go on his licence. Mr McCarthy his client was pleading guilty to the charges.
    "He has no desire to ever get involved in the pub trade again.
    "He just wasn't able to handle it."
    The solicitor told the court that the Criminal Assets Bureau visited his client's home to see if he had profited from running the bar.
    "They satisfied themselves that he had no money," Mr McCarthy said. In court, Judge O'Donnell asked if Mr Joyce allowed drinkers to take control of the pub after hours.
    He said: "Am I to understand that this premises opened on a regular basis and if there was any trouble, staff left and clientele were left to run the premises?" he asked.
    Summing up, the judge described the gang's influence over the pub as a case of the "lunatics taking over the asylum."
    He said: "In the annals of licensing history at Limerick District Court I don't think I've come across a more outrageous set of circumstances."
    The Collopy/Keane crime gang are a major target for CAB profilers. CAB chiefs believe the gang recently bought 32 acres of land in north Munster.
    Pleaded

    They were leasing the land from the owner, but it is suspected that they purchased the entire property in a hardcash deal believed to have been worth in the region of €300,000.
    In another sitting in December, gardai pleaded with a judge not to grant a licence to the bar in Limerick District Court.
    Sgt Donal Cronin claimed "nefarious interests" had a controlling influence at The Mucky Duck. He described how blood had been
    removed from inside the bar when specialists from the Scenes of Crime Unit went to the pub to examine the scene after a man "had his throat slit by means of a knife".
    In January 2009, the man had his throat slashed after a fight broke out as up to 100 people celebrated a Traveller marriage at the Mucky Duck. In court, Sgt Cronin said the injured man lost a lot of blood after he was "deposited" on Nicholas Street outside the bar.
    The court was told that the barman, Lukaz Rudnik, who applied for the pub licence, declined to make a written statement to assist gardai in their investigation.
    "I am extremely concerned about the bona fides of all the people in the premises at the time, including the applicant," Sgt Cronin said.
    He said he did not think Mr Rudnik had the strength of character to deal with the "stronger personalities that have had influence" at the bar.
    "I don't think he appreciates the need to comply with the law."
    However, Judge Tom O'Donnell agreed to grant a temporary licence for the pub saying "it would be unfair to visit all the sins of the past licensee on the applicant",
    He said: "It is a temporary transfer, which has to be confirmed, if the Gardai have concerns between now and then they can bring those concerns before the licensing court."


    THE SCUM INN

    Mucky Duck boozer is Ireland's most lawless pub

    brian-collopy.jpgGANGSTERS’ BAR-ADISE: Brian Collopy and pals in The Mucky Duck
    GANGSTERS’ BAR-ADISE: Brian Collopy and pals in The Mucky Duck

    This is gang boss Brian Collopy doubling as a barman in Ireland's most lawless pub.Top gardai claim that the Keane/Collopy crime family have effectively taken over the running of The Mucky Duck pub (right) - turning it into a den of anarchy.
    The pub has seen "a total breakdown of law", as feuding Limerick mobsters pull themselves pints and drink late into the night with no staff present.
    Last month, Collopy (37) was fined €250 after he was caught pulling pints in the bar at seven o'clock in the morning. The Mucky Duck's reputation is so bad that locals now dub it: "The Scum Inn."
    It has also been the scene of several assaults, including a vicious attack in which a man had his throat slit


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