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2010 challenge of a 1000 miles , what would you change

  • 16-12-2009 12:44AM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,492 ✭✭✭


    Well it's nearly time to start from scratch again. I think it's been a huge success across all levels and I can't wait for the next one.
    When motivation was low I used to check out the thread for the days movers and if donothoponpop had added a few miles well that was normally enough to get me out the door, then I found myself watching Jlang and Krusty and for a time I had hopes of a top 10 :D

    Anyway enough of that, I'm just curious to how we can make it better.
    I was thinking for one, that you pretty much have to be in before you reach your 1000 so no jumping in when all is done as it's a race in it's own right and in a race you should be able to see your competition (misty :D)
    Are people happy with miles or should we call it the 1,610 kilometers thread? (does not work for me but I can change with the times)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,095 ✭✭✭--amadeus--


    I think the annual challenge is great - my only comment is that it's quite exclusive. If you're not in at the start you're left out really, so it might be nice to have a monthly challenge as well (100km thread to keep the metric heads happy?) while keeping the main 1000 miler going as well?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,492 ✭✭✭Woddle


    Good idea or a possible mover of the week section under the 1000 list but maybe only do a top 5 for this


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Not sure that is needs changing. Once everyone figured out how to update the posts it all seemed to run smoothly.

    I plan to actually reach the 1000 next year.


  • Posts: 3,226 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yeah, 'if it ain't broke don't fix it' would be my view.

    Going to give it a right proper effort next year!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    I like it how it is. I liked the A, B and C targets but I think the meanings may have got lost over time. I started in the C(250mile) zone but hope I can still hit the 500 (B) target by the end of the month.
    Maybe if the different target zones were clearer (headings?) it would remove some of the exclusivity of the 1000 mile thing.... though I don't think that has put anyone off... in fairness there are loads of us in there for whom it's a motivational exercise in ranking up as many miles as possible as opposed to thinking we'll reach 1000.

    It was a great idea Woddle. I don't think it has ever left the front page?

    Eta... maybe change colour for hitting each target zone on the way up?


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,368 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    What about the 2000k challenge if you want to change to kilometres?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 987 ✭✭✭ekevosu


    I like it the way it is now in miles. The different colours for the different landmarks, 250, 500, 750, 1000 is a good idea as littlebug suggested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭christeb


    yeah I think it was finetoo, no changes needed. Sorry I didn't join in, as I didn't effectively run until Feb and I didn't want to be so far behind! But I'll be in it to win it this year (well at least beat Wod, misty, shels, robin et al....)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,103 ✭✭✭BeepBeep67


    Maybe a 2nd thread could open for those that hit the 1k, I'd be interested to know the total annual mileage for the boardies that were hitting 1k in March / April.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 721 ✭✭✭Highway_To_Hell


    I presume most people record their running time aswell as miles covered, would be interesting to see a total time running as well as miles covered.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭hunnymonster


    BeepBeep67 wrote: »
    Maybe a 2nd thread could open for those that hit the 1k, I'd be interested to know the total annual mileage for the boardies that were hitting 1k in March / April.
    Just shy of 3000 in my case (if I keep same rate up until end of year). I was hoping to hit the 3000 but most of November was a write off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭Condo131


    Probably a good idea to have a minimum entry hurdle, say 300 miles.

    I went straight in at 1,000, much to Woddle's (and others!) dismay, so it's probably a good idea for people to have an idea of how people are going, rather than have dark horses pipping at the post.

    Wrt Targets, in 1989 (I know, some of you guys weren't even born then :D), I did just over 4,600 miles (over 7,400k) - now happy to get by on approx. 50 mpw (that's the target anyway - it varies)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,525 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    I presume most people record their running time aswell as miles covered, would be interesting to see a total time running as well as miles covered.
    Ahhh GPs watches. Where would we be without them?!
    1,577 miles, in 207 hours 44 minutes, @7:54/mile, Average HR=146, Calories=209,026 (that's a lot of extra food!).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,095 ✭✭✭--amadeus--


    Here's a spin for the IMRA guys... Garmins track elevation changes. Mt Everest is 29,000 feet high (give or take). I wonder if anyone would do teh equivalent of running up Everest in a year?

    You could have intermediates for the highest mountain in Ireland and tehn teh 7 peaks from teh 7 continents on teh way up.

    It would be very niche but quite interesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,525 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    Here's a spin for the IMRA guys... Garmins track elevation changes. Mt Everest is 29,000 feet high (give or take). I wonder if anyone would do teh equivalent of running up Everest in a year?

    You could have intermediates for the highest mountain in Ireland and tehn teh 7 peaks from teh 7 continents on teh way up.

    It would be very niche but quite interesting.
    Forgot to mention: Elevation gain: 74,008m (that's 242,807 feet). But the Garmin is completely flakey (unreliable) on altitute, and can differ massively from one watch (version) to another.

    Sorry for de-railing this thread: The 1,000 mile challenge is perfect as is. Mark late arrivals in a different colour, or put them in a seperate table.

    Oh, and Condo, that's incredible. In 1989, I smoked about 4,200 cigarettes, and drank about 1,200 pints. Would like to know more about training regimes in the '80s, but that's for a different thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭christeb



    It would be very niche but quite interesting.

    Agreed, although I think the Garmin's notorious elevation inaccuracies rules this out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭hunnymonster


    Here's a spin for the IMRA guys... Garmins track elevation changes. Mt Everest is 29,000 feet high (give or take). I wonder if anyone would do teh equivalent of running up Everest in a year?

    You could have intermediates for the highest mountain in Ireland and tehn teh 7 peaks from teh 7 continents on teh way up.

    It would be very niche but quite interesting.

    good idea although ZL would claim he ran that entire elevation in that "wee flat ultra" I had him do the day before DCM (it was actually only 2.5 km)

    29000 ft (just shy of 9km) isn't that much over the course of a year for people who run on hilly terrain so maybe 7 highest peaks in the world or something like that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭hunnymonster


    The other adaptation that might be worth considering is if there is anyway we can incorporate the triathletes. Maybe we need a completely separate thread or maybe we (i.e. ask Tunney nicely) we can equivilate say 10 miles on the bike = 1 running mile, 1 swimming mile = 5 running miles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭macinalli


    I think the annual challenge is great - my only comment is that it's quite exclusive. If you're not in at the start you're left out really, so it might be nice to have a monthly challenge as well (100km thread to keep the metric heads happy?) while keeping the main 1000 miler going as well?

    I'd agree with this. I followed this thread during the year but never joined as due to a combination of an injury/other stuff I didn't do much for the 1st 2-3 months of the year. Feels silly joining when you're so far behind the 2nd last person!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    I thought it was as a great thread and some good points up there to develop it.

    For 2010 go all x factor on it, keeping the theme but making it bigger and better. For example to consider
    • The Ultra runners and Marathon focus people have in sown up too early and thus probably lose interest... how to keep them entertained for the year?
    • The IMRA guys deserve some recognition for their 5 miles vs the 5 miles the rest of us run, but hang on a sec.. yes they do run up hills but they also run the equivalent downhill in chocolate covered adrenalin glee too don't they ..ahem.. ;)
    • Late comers... yep fairly annoying when you are chasing someone on the table and in pops joe bloggs with 1000m in one post.. not discrediting their 100m at all but whats the rule?
    • I like the ideas of colours for targets or colour changing at 250, 500 etc.. as long as it doesn't become a feicin tapestry and a mind challenge to figure out how to format a post?
    • Set of little door magnet rules such as the etiqeutte around deleting posts :confused:
    • I like the idea of equating swimming and cycling as the likes of showry and myself would do better and it would attract more lurkers :) At a 1000mile running challenge it almost seems pointless if you don't have at least a marathon planned in your year...
    Its a great thread though. I was the one to give it the stars back in Jan :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭pete_mcs


    Is there a sign up to this challenge or just post your updates on this thread? Sorry new to this forum.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    pete_mcs wrote: »
    Is there a sign up to this challenge or just post your updates on this thread? Sorry new to this forum.

    There is a 1000mile challenge thread on the first page here somewhere where you'll see what we've been up to, this is just about how we do it for 2010. Woddle will create that thread in a couple of weeks and we'll start all the fun again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭hunnymonster


    MCOS wrote: »
    • Late comers... yep fairly annoying when you are chasing someone on the table and in pops joe bloggs with 1000m in one post.. not discrediting their 100m at all but whats the rule?

    How about in by the end of January (even if only to say ZERO miles due to injury) or you can't join. If you're not in by then, you can still join the monthly totals threads?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,608 ✭✭✭donothoponpop


    It was a great thread because it was so simple. Yes, it gets a little annoying when you are tailing someone, and then a new poster bangs up their 1000 miles in first post, but, really, what harm? My vote goes towards keeping it simple (the way it was), and not dilute that simplicity with new rules, or swim miles, or extra colours for 250 miles, etc.
    MCOS wrote: »
    [*]The IMRA guys deserve some recognition for their 5 miles vs the 5 miles the rest of us run, but hang on a sec.. yes they do run up hills but they also run the equivalent downhill in chocolate covered adrenalin glee boggy muck****e and extra gorsebush limbstoo don't they ..ahem.. ;)

    FYP;)
    To be fair on road runners, we mountain men don't have to contend with traffic, or dog poop, or sucking in our guts around cuties...:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,584 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    The other adaptation that might be worth considering is if there is anyway we can incorporate the triathletes. Maybe we need a completely separate thread or maybe we (i.e. ask Tunney nicely) we can equivilate say 10 miles on the bike = 1 running mile, 1 swimming mile = 5 running miles.

    I've only ran a couple of thousand km this year and as I'm not a pure runner I didn't feel right entering the 1000 mile challenge as for some weeks I might only run 50km but I've spent 5 hours in the pool and 15 hours on the bike.

    Those famiilar with Epic camps may know the points competition that they use, overly complicated for the requirements here but an establish system thats used and has been for years.

    With the bonus points stripped out it boils down to

    *Swim 2 mile : 1
    *Bike 60 miles : 1
    *Run 5 miles : 1


    A simplified and adapted version of this that maintains the ratio of swim:bike:run in a fair amount, but recognised the run focus of the board fos ease of calculation, could be

    *Swim 600m: 1 point
    *Bike 12 miles : 1 point
    *Run 1 mile: 1 point

    Runs over two hours get 2 bonus points
    Bikes over 120 miles get 2 bonus points
    Swims over 3.5 miles get 2 bonus points.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    tunney wrote: »
    Bikes over 120 miles get 2 bonus points
    Swims over 3.5 miles get 2 bonus points.

    These bonus points would be reserved specifically for IM athletes then :rolleyes:

    Introducing a points system takes away from the heart of the challenge IMO which must fundamentally be a 1000 mile challenge. Perhaps a handicap system could be initiated here to keep it simple. Let Individuals lay down their own guantlet by starting on the figure (max 0) that they wish

    So for example HM would start the challenge on -2000miles, Krusty on -600 etc... This would be a way of the pack fighting it out while the heavy mileage guys lay down honest challenges for themselves and come through to the top of the table as usual, only by Decemeber and not March.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭hunnymonster


    Hey, I'm still bitter that the biddy sahara flooded and the MDS started a day late meaning I was second to Bazman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,103 ✭✭✭BeepBeep67


    I presume most people record their running time aswell as miles covered, would be interesting to see a total time running as well as miles covered.

    1816 miles
    241:09:36 - time (just over 10 full days running)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    It's all starting to get far too confusing now.

    How about a thread where everybody updates how far they have run since the 1st January next year, and we see who reaches 1000miles of running first?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 747 ✭✭✭uglyjohn


    em, who starts it? i think i'll join in this year and since 2010 starts a few hours early here i reckon i can steal first place untill a few hang overs clear :cool:


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