Bad smell around Naas

Tyrant^

Anyone else getting the smell of sewerage around the Monread Road and the Ball as you come into Naas?

Its been coming and going really bad since thursday.... its rank!

Prenderb

I don't think that's sewage, I think it's the local meat processing factories...

strewelpeter

Neither, it seems to be methane and associated gases coming from a dump at kerdiffstown.

There was a quarry there that was used as some kind of a dump 30 ish years ago. It seems someone has had a license to fill it with dry filling for the last few years, whether they have been putting in stuff that they shouldn't have been or they have somehow released gas that was already there I don't know. But that is where its coming from.

Its been there and getting worse for months now but really vile in this kind of weather. I can catch a whiff of it here tonight about 4 or 5 Km away as the crow flies.

christy1971

Its the dog food factory / meat processing factory near the cinema. Been a problem for the last number of years, particularly bad during cold snap due to pervailing winds. There is also a food ingredients factory in the Monread Industrial Estate that omits a really bad odour as well.

Tyrant^

Ah right..... So I suppose there is nothing that can be done about it then ?
Unless all the people from the whole area do some kind of protest

BuffyBot

I'd imagine contacting Naas Town Council might be the first step

christy1971

Yes indeed will be contacting Naas Town Council in the morning. Just came back from town and yes there is an apalling and suffocating smell of Methane coming up towards the Big Ball. So agree with the previous poster re. possisble cause being the old dump at Kerdiffstown. We already had the other pollution problems to deal with and now this! Im pre empting NTC response already ......."this is a matter for the EPA and not us"......

Prenderb

It's not methane - methane is odourless. That smell's probably from the various food processing plants in the area. It may be a combination of wind direction and cold, maybe some other conditions at the factories?

strewelpeter

Of course Methane is odourless, what you are smelling is all the other stuff that is decomposing in the pit. I mentioned Methane to describe the typical 'dump' smell , which is pretty silly really, I think it should be called bio gas or landfill gas .

Anyway the point is that its fairly clear that it is not coming from any of factories in the town. If it was it would be much more straightforward to stop it.

I don't think the pit is in the UDC area so responsibility for sorting it is between KCC and the EPA. I'm told both of them have been working on this for months and that there is no quick and simple solution .

I've also heard that the people who own the pit have bought up all the houses that are right beside them.

Tyrant^

Will be getting in touch with someone aswell tomorrow.

Breathin all that ****e in is not healthy.... a few people in the house started gettin headaches could be related ... I dunno

pistolpetes11

strewelpeter wrote: »

Of course Methane is odourless, what you are smelling is all the other stuff that is decomposing in the pit. I mentioned Methane to describe the typical 'dump' smell , which is pretty silly really, I think it should be called bio gas or landfill gas .

Anyway the point is that its fairly clear that it is not coming from any of factories in the town. If it was it would be much more straightforward to stop it.

I don't think the pit is in the UDC area so responsibility for sorting it is between KCC and the EPA. I'm told both of them have been working on this for months and that there is no quick and simple solution .

I've also heard that the people who own the pit have bought up all the houses that are right beside them.

For sure smells like its from the factories, smells like gone off bacon today and has done for the last few days , before that it smelt like rotten chicken !

mad DIY

It has been really bad driving past Naas on the M7 in the last few days. Particularily on Saturday it was so choking I nearly threw up while driving the car. It's similiar to the bad smells that come out of the chilling plant in Kildare town, but much much worse. So I'd guess it is animal carcass related.

gsxr1

strewelpeter wrote: »

Neither, it seems to be methane and associated gases coming from a dump at kerdiffstown.

There was a quarry there that was used as some kind of a dump 30 ish years ago. It seems someone has had a license to fill it with dry filling for the last few years, whether they have been putting in stuff that they shouldn't have been or they have somehow released gas that was already there I don't know. But that is where its coming from.

Its been there and getting worse for months now but really vile in this kind of weather. I can catch a whiff of it here tonight about 4 or 5 Km away as the crow flies.

I was at the johnstown garden centre today .. And followed a massive lorry full of domestic rubbish in to that site.

I live in sallins and was wondering what that smell was . I can confirm

thats where its from. They are tipping rubbish into it. It stinks.

the last time i was up that way. It was a quarry with tipper trucks coming in and out. Last month....

Do they have the right to open a rubbish tip so close to a major town:mad:

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=53.241977,-6.633897&spn=0.014228,0.038581&z=15

coffee to go

gsxr1 wrote: »

the last time i was up that way. It was a quarry with tipper trucks coming in and out.

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=53.241977,-6.633897&spn=0.014228,0.038581&z=15

Another view of the extent and proximity of the quarry can be seen here:

http://ims0.osiemaps.ie/website/publicviewer/main.aspx?id=&utype=&ecom=S1&user=#V1,691519,721948,6

Not sure I'd want to be playing a round on the Palmerstown golf course these days!

strewelpeter

gsxr1 wrote: »

Do they have the right to open a rubbish tip so close to a major town:mad:

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=53.241977,-6.633897&spn=0.014228,0.038581&z=15

They do because it is a licensed facility, I was mistaken when I said that their license was only for dry filling, many people believed that that was the deal but apparently they are licensed to use part of the site for biowaste.
Hopefully they won't for much longer because the EPA are trying to have the place closed down for breaching the terms of their license.
The reality though is they probably won't actually be able to close it because the company (A1 Waste) will at the last minute promise to spend the money they need to spend to get the site working correctly. Its hard to follow all the technical detail of what is at issue but it is claimed that they are using a part of the site that they should not be using for bio waste. That part apparently is not lined and not covered or set up however they are supposed to do it to collect all the gases.
The EPA have been trying to get them into the High Court since the summer and they are still some way down 'the list'
When they get there, or even in trying to get into court earlier (I've heard that they could be waiting till March to be heard)t he number of complaints that they have may help strengthen their case. To that end anyone who is concerned about this smell should go to this page on the EPA website download the complaint form fill it in. the complaints can be mailed to info@epa.ie

The Gish

I pass by the "BALL" at Naas every morning and for the past while and the smell is very very bad. The smell I have been informed is from the local rubbish dump.
God help the people living in the vacinity.

elvis jones

The Gish wrote: »

I pass by the "BALL" at Naas every morning and for the past while and the smell is very very bad. The smell I have been informed is from the local rubbish dump.
God help the people living in the vacinity.

Snap !!!

I was going to post here about it and had a laugh when i seen there already was a thread.....i thought it was my jeep for a while, then i was in the car and it was the same !!!

thehylander

Yea unfortunately what we are smelling is now the second biggest dump in the country.The same company were prosecuted in the High Court for dumping without a licence in co.Wicklow but have somehow managed to gain one right on our doorsteps.They operate both a general waste and supposed recycling plant and undergo little or no inspections.

The smell here in Johnstown is insufferable and as much as we would love to move home away from the dump,houses wont sell here now because of the odour.The council have told us that the air pollution has only risen by 12% in past year and that is not grounds enough for them to take action!Seems that there is money to be made by turning a blind eye!

keep it tidy

went to heatons yest and as i got near the naas north exit i got this bad smell at 1st i otught it was the little lad after having an accident until i got to heatons and got out of the car well my holy moly the smell is feirce, to hear that nothing can be done is a joke, if you think about it over the next few yrs it wil get smellyer and spread further so we may do somehting about it :mad::mad:

strewelpeter

thehylander wrote: »

Yea unfortunately what we are smelling is now the second biggest dump in the country.The same company were prosecuted in the High Court for dumping without a licence in co.Wicklow but have somehow managed to gain one right on our doorsteps.They operate both a general waste and supposed recycling plant and undergo little or no inspections.

The smell here in Johnstown is insufferable and as much as we would love to move home away from the dump,houses wont sell here now because of the odour.The council have told us that the air pollution has only risen by 12% in past year and that is not grounds enough for them to take action!Seems that there is money to be made by turning a blind eye!

The EPA are in the process of taking them through the courts over this and are confident that if they operate the site according to their license that there will be no smell.
Lodge your complaints with the EPA because they are the only people who can help at this time.

gsxr1

thanks for those links. It unreal how they are getting away with this. So close to a large population. All to make 1 man rich....

I will be complaining for sure. No one made the residents aware that a dump was going to opened there.

I though it was a result of the sallin flooding..

till I followed the dump truck.

My godness. the smell at the site would make your eyes water.

L.O.F.T

Can anyone tell me the company who runs the dump?

strewelpeter

Its being operated by A1 Waste.
The holding company is, I think, called Nephin Trading Ltd.

lostinNaas

See

EPA licence http://www.epa.ie/terminalfour/waste/waste-view.jsp?regno=W0047-02

maxwell smart

Went past the ball today, the smell is getting worse!!

granturismo

I rang Neiphin/A1 today and was asked to send in a complaint in writing or email to info@a1waste.ie. Their office in Tallaght wasnt able to confirm the source of the putrid smell.

If I read the cre.ie website correctly, this dump is taking biodegradeable kitchen brown bin waste.

http://www.cre.ie/Compost%20site%20factsheets/Neiphin%20Trading,%20Naas..pdf

I've sent an email to A1 and used this link to send a complaint to the EPA;

strewelpeter wrote: »

To that end anyone who is concerned about this smell should go to this page on the EPA website download the complaint form fill it in. the complaints can be mailed to info@epa.ie

Have many people sent a complaint form to the EPA?

If A1/Neiphin are responsible, is anyone due to renew their domestic refuse collection with A1 in Jan?

christy1971

In the process of doing the following:

1. Email A1 waste to make the aware that in addition to contacting local government and councillors, a complaint is being made to the EPA in relation to their facility at Kerdiffstown info@a1waste.ie.

2.In addition a complaint should also be made to the EHO in Naas and the Environment Section in Kildare County Council: secretar@kildarecoco.ie

2. Complete the EPA form and submit:
Originally Posted by strewelpeter
To that end anyone who is concerned about this smell should go to this page on the EPA website download the complaint form fill it in. the complaints can be mailed to info@epa.ie


3. Make contact with Darren Scully, Naas Town Council and Kildare County Councillor. He lives in Kerdiff Park, just of the Monread Road, so he will be aware of the issue first hand. dpscully@hotmail.com Please put in link to this page so he can inform himself on the public opinion.

In addition I would be in favour of contacting KFM and local media i.e. Kildare Times / Leinster Leader to highlight if it continues to persist.

The more people that highlight this issue and start shouting a little louder I'm sure something will happen.

Keep posting.

Voltex

Guys..TBH I think the smell is from Osberstown Water Treatment.

http://www.bnm.ie/files/20060726044042_Osberstown.pdf

Voltex

maxwell smart wrote: »

Went past the ball today, the smell is getting worse!!

+1

from Johnstown to just past the ball...the smell is rank....much worse than usual.

strewelpeter

Voltex wrote: »

Guys..TBH I think the smell is from Osberstown Water Treatment.

http://www.bnm.ie/files/20060726044042_Osberstown.pdf

Its not though, it is from the dump at Kerdiffstown. There really isn't any doubt about it.

gsxr1

Voltex wrote: »

Guys..TBH I think the smell is from Osberstown Water Treatment.

http://www.bnm.ie/files/20060726044042_Osberstown.pdf

It 100% coming from the dump . Go there. you will be horribly enlightened.

granturismo

Voltex wrote: »

Guys..TBH I think the smell is from Osberstown Water Treatment.http://www.bnm.ie/files/20060726044042_Osberstown.pdf

The smell at the golf ball wasnt so bad today, Sat but I got the pong in Kill. Take a drive past Johnstown Garden Centre towards Naas Golf Club and :eek:

Birdnuts

Now you all know what the people living to the NE of the Arthurstown Landfill in Kill have been subjected to for the past decade or more. The prevailing wind and geography of the area means these people hardly ever get a break from the appalling stench of Hydrogen Sulphide, Methane etc.(Rotting cabbages). Many are now suffering from health problems like severe headaches, nausea et.

Sadly the so called Authorities (EPA, KCC etc.) don't appear interested despite numerious complaints.

PS: The EPA have failed many communities around the country.Their Bord is made up of poltical appointees most of them from the likes of IBEC and even ex big oil, incinerator company execs. The are very quick to issue licenses but hardly ever withdraw them despite what often mounts to brazen and continous flouting of the terms of such licenses by the likes of A1 waste etc.:mad:

Voltex

I cant believe they are leaving the locals to have to endure that smell...it really is so disgusting.

If ever there was an argument for inciniration....

BuffyBot

kfmradio.com wrote:

2009-12-21 12:06:48

Recommendations on the odour from the Kerdiffstown Lanfill in the Kill/Naas area are likely to be issued today

The Environment Protection Agency is in the High Court today seeking an injunction to prevent the operators from carrying out certain activities

The EPA also wants to ensure Kerdiffstown to keep the the provisions of it's licence

Anthony Lawlor is a Cllr living in Johnstown

He says the smell is attrocious

EPA seems to be taking some notice - and it's been mentioned on KFM. Surprised it didn't come up a lot sooner.

syngindub

was going to start a thread but realised one exists.
The first time i drove onto the M7 and got this pong i thought there was something wrong with my car. It's unbelievable. I have noticed a lot of cars stopping after this exit thinking they have an issue with their cars also. Glad to see you guys trying to get to the bottom of it.

ncit9933

Smell seems to have spread to Monread area today, I rang EPA to lodge a complaint and they say they have a case lodged with the high court.
She said the more people that contact them the stronger the case. 053-9160600.
She said the site has an indefinite license meaning it could be there for the long term...don't fancy that!!
I specifically purchased my house in Naas, rather that kill or kilcullen for those very reasons!

jonnner

I pass "The Ball" every day and I too thought there was something wrong with my car initially. Yesterday I was in the business park there with Woodies, Heatons etc. I could not believe people were expected to go about their lives with this disgusting stench in the air.
I don't live in the area but I will use all the contacts listed above to make complaints, its an absolute disgrace and it will be stopped :mad:

mad DIY

granturismo wrote: »

I rang Neiphin/A1 today and was asked to send in a complaint in writing or email to info@a1waste.ie. Their office in Tallaght wasnt able to confirm the source of the putrid smell.

If I read the cre.ie website correctly, this dump is taking biodegradeable kitchen brown bin waste.

http://www.cre.ie/Compost%20site%20factsheets/Neiphin%20Trading,%20Naas..pdf

I've sent an email to A1 and used this link to send a complaint to the EPA;

Have many people sent a complaint form to the EPA?

If A1/Neiphin are responsible, is anyone due to renew their domestic refuse collection with A1 in Jan?

I wonder are they also taking in offal from animal slaughtering facilities ? Because, quite frankly, that's what the smell is like.

However, the contents of a few hundred brown bins with leftover domestic rotting meat might also do it I suppose.

ncit9933

smell seems to be getting worse today, although EPA did say something about air pressure being a factor in this weather, still doesn't take away the fact that a dump was allowed in the first place even though there are 2 other dumps within 10 miles.
Hope people don't stop complaining to authorities once the weather changes

Hammer Archer

Was back with a vengeance today alright. Live in Meath but the girlfriend lives in Naas and it could even be detected inside today.
I've lived in the country all my life and I'm used to bad smells like fertiliser/manure/silage but these are tolerable. This smell actually makes me wretch at times it's that bad.

Atlantis26

I live in Kerdiff Close, its definately getting worse, got a smell in the house a few times lately that i never got before. Having to light scented candles to kill it.
Living in Naas 6 months, its getting worse and spreading further up the monread road, used to just be a little area around the cemex site when we first moved but its all over now

blackbox

I drove past Naas on the N7 on Saturday and couldn't believe that the smell is as bad as ever.

I don't know how you people that live there put up with it.

ncit9933

I haven't even see anything in the local papers exposing what is happening

Kaos Theory

Moved to Naas in the last 6 months, the first time I got the smell was on the N7 passing Johnstown Garden Centre, I thought I was after catching a bird in the rad of the bike or something, couldn't believe how bad the smell was.

Agree its getting worse, usually only get it round the garden centre, but recently been able to smell it in the Monread area. :mad:

Have noted the number above and will lodge my complaint.

Kaos

Damien360

Voltex wrote: »

I cant believe they are leaving the locals to have to endure that smell...it really is so disgusting.

If ever there was an argument for inciniration....

And where would you park the incinerator. I can see placards being hoisted saying "no incinerator here" already !!

dooglebee

The smell driving past kill on the m7 is so rancid that it fills your car with its foul odour and you have to open the windows so you don't choke to death on the way past. Those who say there is nothing you can do about it should try drive down that motor way and see if they can hold a straight face.

It is not fair on those in the area and something needs to be done about it, it need national coverage on the news or papers or something,

People in the area should hold a large protest on one of our very important roads to draw attention to the matter, the smell is like something from Bangladesh.

discovery98

This has now made the Leinster Leader -

http://www.leinsterleader.ie/news/Naas-residents-outraged-as-pungent.5978223.jp

I contacted the EPA, and they said that as well as making a complaint to the facility, you should make a formal complaint to the EPA. Also keep a diary of the intensity of the odour, any health effects etc.

There is more information and a form to download here
http://www.epa.ie/whatwedo/enforce/report/#d.en.12434

penexpers

Looks like this is going to court

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/0203/1224263658876.html

THE ENVIRONMENTAL Protection Agency (EPA) is taking a High Court case against the operators of a landfill site in Co Kildare, claiming they are in breach of a licence granted under the Waste Management Act.

The action is due to be heard by the High Court on March 22nd, having been rescheduled at least twice. People living in the vicinity of the site at Kerdiffstown, between Naas and Sallins, have complained of “obnoxious” odours emanating from a new composting facility where brown bin materials as well as “mixed waste” and garden waste are being treated.

Tyrant^

Awesome

ncit9933

Hope A1 get what they deserve from this court case i.e. shutdown!