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Inspiring Display of Defiance at the Fountain

  • 12-12-2009 1:07am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭




    Discuss.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭Cadyboo


    Saw this earlier, it's fantastic!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 136 ✭✭johncm


    on Thursdays echo it said he got 3 months jail for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭Cadyboo


    That's a disgrace. There are people mugging and raping and stealing and they get less time than that, if any at all. Saw the original version of it, and the crowd are really egging him on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    Looks like a drunken moron. If that's 'inspiring' then the human race really has lost it.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,654 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    what exactly is inspiring about this?
    It's not inspiring it's not anything really, it's a guy dancing on a fountain, getting Jail for this is lunacy though on the side of the government.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭hideous ape


    Inspiring Display of Defiance...against what exactly?

    Keeping a few Gardai and firemen occupied while some family elsewhere burns to death or more heroin enters Cork city undetected!

    The Gardai need to be given every non-lethal armament there is. I'd like to see this plonker getting hit with a few tasers or plastic bullets. Your in a democracy so you are entitled to peaceful protest but if the Gardai and Fire brigade are busy dealing with some clown on top of a fountain then they can't be doing their real work.

    I have relatives in the fire brigade and the Gardai and the bull**** they have to put up with is a disgrace.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,018 ✭✭✭✭jank


    what exactly is he defying?
    a1 idiot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,463 ✭✭✭run_Forrest_run


    I'd say he got a few slaps once he was in that van, hopefully anyway. idiot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,609 ✭✭✭Flamed Diving


    Moron. It seems he will have plenty of time to think about it in the slammer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 420 ✭✭tommmy1979


    Legend!!

    He couldn't have been that drunk i can tell you.. tisn't an easy climb.. the first ledge is particularly tricky;).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭DamienH


    Non-lethal armaments don't even come into this IMO. They were obviously there to try and make sure that he didn't fall, if he got hit with a taser he'd have had an awful fall. Personally, the idea of Gardaí with anything more lethal than a pen worries me, they're not exactly known for their common sense and decency. I don't see why there were so many gardaí there in the first place, let alone the fire brigade.

    He's just acting the maggot, langers drunk. I think he should of been taken down, given a night in the cells and get a fine in court. Not jail anyway ffs, he's done absolutely no harm to anyone and only endangered himself. Who was the judge?
    Keeping a few Gardai and firemen occupied while some family elsewhere burns to death or more heroin enters Cork city undetected!
    Please tell me that's a joke? It reads like some mental Daily Mail madness, won't somebody think of the children!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭Sleipnir


    How is a drunken idiot on a fountain 'inspiring'?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 420 ✭✭tommmy1979


    Keeping a few Gardai and firemen occupied while some family elsewhere burns to death or more heroin enters Cork city undetected!
    DamienH wrote: »

    Please tell me that's a joke? It reads like some mental Daily Mail madness, won't somebody think of the children!!!!

    +1... he harmed nobody ffs!! Just entertained a few people for a few minutes that's all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭bumpintraining


    *yawn, thought it was boring until 2.16 when that fella took the hopper down the fountain:D that one had to hurt!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 210 ✭✭104494431


    2040 wrote: »


    Discuss.


    Why in the name of **** did that require a (nearly) 4 minute video.

    What a dickhead, he deserves the jail time for wasting the fire brigades time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 210 ✭✭104494431


    The Gardai need to be given every non-lethal armament there is. I'd like to see this plonker getting hit with a few tasers or plastic bullets. Your in a democracy so you are entitled to peaceful protest but if the Gardai and Fire brigade are busy dealing with some clown on top of a fountain then they can't be doing their real work.

    The Gardaí do not need tazers or rubber bullets.

    1) Tazer or rubber bullet is used on him.

    2)He slips and falls.

    3)Mangles his head.

    4)Is now paralysed or handicapped (treatment paid for by the taxpayer).

    5)Family sue the government/gardaí (legal fees paid for by the taxpayer)

    6)They get a settlement for a few million (paid for by the tax payers).

    7)The gardaí involved never get promoted, ever.

    8)The guy spends the rest of life as a vegetable/furniture.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭11811


    What about the couple of hundred idiots cheering him on?
    Sure if nobody was egging him on I'm sure he would have come down on his own accord.

    Some drunk dude standing on a fountain - Inspiring? No wonder the countries shagged.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭thorpe


    3 Months inside not half enough for an idiot like that. Wasting CCFBs and Garda time, a year minimum plus a nice fine. Hit him where it really hurts, the pocket.
    If that was definance well it shows how screwed this country is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 800 ✭✭✭CB19Kevo


    Not very inspiring in my humble opinion,
    He was foolish enough to climb a wet surface and expose himself to the elements for 40 minutes while yet more drunken idiots applauded his ability to wash himself for all to see, He could have slipped and done serious damage to himself or others standing near the fountain.Yet and all he decided to waste the Guards and fire services time by entertaining his followers.

    We can all have a joke but your man here just went overboard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭hideous ape


    DamienH wrote: »
    Please tell me that's a joke? It reads like some mental Daily Mail madness, won't somebody think of the children!!!!

    I couldn't give a toss if someone dances on top of a fountain for 10 hours or dances through the streets naked but once the emergency services are involved then it crosses a line. Some of us prefer to have these people doing their real jobs and not tied up providing entertainment for a few drunks.

    Some people will always lack the intelligence to see the bigger picture and do not understand that incidents like these involving the emergency services do have knock on effects.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Red Hand


    The dumb fuck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭Papa_Lazarou


    Surprise surprise a facbook page has been set up for him :rolleyes:

    http://www.facebook.com/#/pages/FREE-THE-FOUNTAIN-1/357468465093?ref=nf


    "free the fountain 1" What a load of bull****.

    They guy wasted the time of numerous Gardaí and fire officers and deserves to be in jail for the minimum sentence he recieved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭DamienH


    I couldn't give a toss if someone dances on top of a fountain for 10 hours or dances through the streets naked but once the emergency services are involved then it crosses a line. Some of us prefer to have these people doing their real jobs and not tied up providing entertainment for a few drunks.

    Some people will always lack the intelligence to see the bigger picture and do not understand that incidents like these involving the emergency services do have knock on effects.

    Point taken. I was just saying that it's highly unlikely that the fire bridgade will 'rescue' a guy from the fountain before they go to help a family being burned out of their house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Is it just me or were there far more firemen/gards than were actually needed? I laughed anyway, I love the way people talk as if they haven't ever been stupid or beligerent under the influence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,609 ✭✭✭Flamed Diving


    Kold wrote: »
    Is it just me or were there far more firemen/gards than were actually needed? I laughed anyway, I love the way people talk as if they haven't ever been stupid or beligerent under the influence.

    That stupid? On behalf of the posters of this forum and myself, I can categorically say no to that statement above.

    Thanks for your input, though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    That stupid? On behalf of the posters of this forum and myself, I can categorically say no to that statement above.

    Thanks for your input, though.
    I'm glad the posters of this forum have elected you as spokesman.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,609 ✭✭✭Flamed Diving




    Ireland's answer is some pissed up spastic on a fountain, mooning the crowd.

    Mad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    I do believe that the title of the thread was somewhat 'tongue in cheek'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 393 ✭✭sherdydan


    fair enough this guy wasted garda time.... but who the hell decided to send so many gardai and firemen?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,508 ✭✭✭Lemag


    Man, some people would do anything for a Hillbillies' Breast in a Bun ;-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 ileprechaun


    Wow, I wish I'd been able to see this!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,629 ✭✭✭raah!


    It doesn't really make sense to say that he wasted the time of the guards. One would have done really.... or even none.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,379 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    *yawn, thought it was boring until 2.16 when that fella took the hopper down the fountain:D that one had to hurt!!!

    That was by far the best part........jeez he took some hopper alright!!! :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,422 ✭✭✭Tirabaralla


    This made me miss Cork...
    Btw the underwear coordinate to the Xmas hat is class :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    3 months?

    That's lunacy ... not to mention incredibly expensive!

    Prisons should be reserved for those who are a danger to society - not people who can't pay fines, dance in fountains or do other minor stupid things.

    It's no wonder the prisons are dangerously over-crowded.

    Surely something like that warrants a community service order or something really minor!

    It seems the justice system here has absolutely no sense of proportion. There are various fraudsters collapsing the economy and walking away without a single charge, child molesting clergy going unpunished and uninvestigated etc etc etc.. drug problems, etc

    Meanwhile, they give a guy who gets drunk and dances in a fountain 3 months!

    The only person he was putting in danger was himself!!

    Talk about lack of priorities!

    What a country!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,609 ✭✭✭Flamed Diving


    Solair wrote: »
    The only person he was putting in danger was himself

    Not true. The reasons why have already been pointed out and ignored by you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    Not true. The reasons why have already been pointed out and ignored by you.

    I really cannot see where it was pointed out. They could have cordoned off the area and offered him a ladder. Unless the guy was waving a gun around, I really don't see what the major risk was, other than to himself.

    As for jailing him. It costs approximately €100,000 / year to keep someone in prison in Ireland. So, a 3 month sentence costs about €25,000.

    Assuming that he's employed, 3 months in prison will probably also cost him his job and he will have serious difficulty finding a new one after a jail sentence. So, you can probably add years of social welfare payments to that bill too.

    Where as he could have been given a community service order e.g. maybe 150 hours or something. This would have a net benefit to the community i.e. might get some streets swept, some drains unclogged or whatever.

    The guy would be able to fit it around his work schedule and get back to normal.

    The state saves probably anything up to €200,000 in the long run and he learns his lesson.

    We are using prison for FAR FAR too many stupid offenses.

    Those prison places need to be reserved for people who are genuinely a danger to society and/or have committed the most serious offenses. Not for muppets who climb fountains and people who didn't pay their TV or Dog license for their chiwawa!!!

    Meanwhile, at the other scale of offenses i.e. serious attacks on people, massive financial crimes, etc people are getting away with pathetically short sentences and/or fines.

    Justice has to be reasonable and proportionate and it's certainly not demonstrating that here.

    Don't get me started on jailing people for non-payment of debt due to their inability to pay... that's a whole other essay-length post!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,609 ✭✭✭Flamed Diving


    I couldn't give a toss if someone dances on top of a fountain for 10 hours or dances through the streets naked but once the emergency services are involved then it crosses a line. Some of us prefer to have these people doing their real jobs and not tied up providing entertainment for a few drunks.

    Some people will always lack the intelligence to see the bigger picture and do not understand that incidents like these involving the emergency services do have knock on effects.
    Solair wrote: »
    I really cannot see where it was pointed out.

    Up there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    Up there.

    I still don't see why this requires a prison sentence at a cost of vast amounts of money.

    What's wrong with a community service order or a very large fine?

    He's a drunken muppet, not a dangerous criminal!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Sorry, I know I'm bumping a very old thread

    Would anyone know the name of the song that was played for this?
    I tried contacting the youtube user but no reply and the video is take down now

    Just I watched the video many times, mainly for the music but I never did find out the band or song

    Any help appreciated :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,508 ✭✭✭Lemag


    If memory serves me correctly I think that the song was by Cork band 'Hope Is Noise'. I can't remember which song it was though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Very helpful, found it
    You've some memory to remember back to 2009

    Hope is Noise
    Under Friendly Fire
    Speak over you

    Wasn't aware they were an Irish band
    http://hopeisnoise.bandcamp.com/

    Tune bought online :)


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