young people being pushed aside

Drawing Dead

hi,

my situation - college graduate, 22yrs old, in receipt of JA.

i'm not too annoyed that my allowance is being reduced to 196euro as i'll just have to make a few cutbacks, but i am outraged, absolutely disgusted with the way young people in this country are being treated with the lower rates of JA!!

how is it that an apprentice of college graduate is somehow worth less than everyone else??? why are we being pushed aside?? we are one of the most intelligent and well qualified generations of irish people ever and the government wants to fob us off, having the dispicable attitude of telling us to do some poxy fas course in introduction to computers or first aid in an attempt to 'upskill'?? what kind of bullsh*it is that??
what is the government doing to put well qualified people back to work? nothing. by giving us a lower wefare rate we're being pushed aside, told we aren't wanted, forced to emigrate or take on a massive debt to do postgraduate courses.
is there no representive body standing up for us? why aren't we marching on the streets? i think its disugsting we're being told we're surplus to requirements; please leave, ireland can't afford young people.

what a load of horse manure the government has served us, and i can't believe we're swollowing it.

msg11

Just to back up his post, I have a job here. But as soon as I am finished my studys I am out of here ! There is no way in hell, I am staying in this place, Im 19 & working since 17, if I lost my job tomorrow I get a scabby 100€.(do me ok)

Another point I have to raise, is young people are used to the luxurys during the good times. And 100€ aint gonna be seen as much, and I know they will turn to the gangster style life for money.

Grafenwalder

Hi drawing ,

Are u not being reduced to €150 cos u are under 25?

I'm 24 and a graduate on JA .

Fentdog84

Drawing Dead wrote: »

hi,

my situation - college graduate, 22yrs old, in receipt of JA.

i'm not too annoyed that my allowance is being reduced to 196euro as i'll just have to make a few cutbacks, but i am outraged, absolutely disgusted with the way young people in this country are being treated with the lower rates of JA!!

how is it that an apprentice of college graduate is somehow worth less than everyone else??? why are we being pushed aside?? we are one of the most intelligent and well qualified generations of irish people ever and the government wants to fob us off, having the dispicable attitude of telling us to do some poxy fas course in introduction to computers or first aid in an attempt to 'upskill'?? what kind of bullsh*it is that??
what is the government doing to put well qualified people back to work? nothing. by giving us a lower wefare rate we're being pushed aside, told we aren't wanted, forced to emigrate or take on a massive debt to do postgraduate courses.
is there no representive body standing up for us? why aren't we marching on the streets? i think its disugsting we're being told we're surplus to requirements; please leave, ireland can't afford young people.

what a load of horse manure the government has served us, and i can't believe we're swollowing it.

Drawing. You should actually be counting yourself as very lucky. I'm in the same boat, down 8 euro a week which is ****ing measily but could be alot worse. If you were a year younger, 21, you would be cut down to 100 euro a week. I think its really lousy on those people, as they dont get the 204 euro unless they are living a way from home, renting anyway. So what they're actually expected to do to survive anyway is beyond me.. Its a sad sate of affairs..:(

Drawing Dead

Grafenwalder wrote: »

Hi drawing ,

Are u not being reduced to €150 cos u are under 25?

I'm 24 and a graduate on JA .

hey, no, its only new claims that will recieve 150euro.

so that means some of my friends that managed to get christmas jobs in shops will be penalised for wanting to work when they have to sign on again in january.
backwards country.
i'd say the government is expecting another 10 to 20,000 graduates to find no job for them in may so they're cutting their welfare now.

not only is the government spitting on us but reading comments on other threads saying, why don't you get a job, they should get rid of the dole, move in with your parents etc just makes you wonder at what kind of society ireland is turning into.

ondarack

hi, i'm 24 in january, currently claiming jobseekers benifit as i was made redundant january last, but that is to run out in jan coming and i'll hav to go onto allowance, does that mean i will be penalised and i will only get 150?? its an absolute disaster!!

Maebh

Ondarack: if you're already on JB then when you move to JA you'll still be on 196. The lower rates are only for absolutely first-time applicants.
The person who said their friends would get Christmas jobs and go on the dole again in Jan, I understand completely how much of a bitch it'd be if they're put on 100/150. But I have a feeling that if you're signing on, then get a job, then go back to the social that you still get the full amount. Again, the lowered rates are for new applicants only.

That doesn't make it any better, though. It's still a pittance to live on. And you don't get any money if you're living with parents, so it's really the gov trying to get out of paying young people anything at all...

There was a letter in the indo that said young people should be given 10,000 lump sum to emigrate, with the proviso that they can't sign on in this country for a year. I think that's a good idea, and it'd be honest of the gov if they did, because they'd be admitting that all they really want is for young people to feck off...