Points scored against teams with 14 players...

komodosp

Are there any statistics about how many points actually get scored against teams with a player in the sin bin as opposed to a full team (not counting 3 points from the penalty which lead to the sin-binning)? It seems an awful lot that the commentators are "surprised" that the 15 haven't scored against the 14...

Stev_o

Dunno about statistics but from memory in most cases these days the most teams come up with are 3 or 6 points. The only situation i can think of where a team took advantage of a team down on numbers is Cardiff vs Leicester, and even at that Cardiff didn't score when Leicester were down to 13 men and only got their tries when Craig Newby returned from the sin bin.

If you look at where most yellow cards are given out these days your looking around the the 5 meter line and closer and when given the choice most teams will decide to take 3 instead of going for the kill and going for the try. Again this has more to do with a overall problem that is plaguing rugby at the moment ( Improved defences, pressure to win etc).

Victor

Is ground lost / gained a better measure?

I think its over the course of a game where the loss of players for 10 minutes hurts a team. A team can be very defiant when down to 14 and hold out but the effort expended in those 10 minutes often comes back to haunt them later in the game.

I'd be very interested to hear any results on it as a whole though.

I doubt its very much,the most common thing you will see when a team goes down to 14 is commentators going mad that the other team isnt using their advantage.

Digifriendly

One simple question here - when teams are down to 14 and an injury takes place is clock stopped or does time taken up for injury be included in time for sin bin? If it is the latter then the rule should be changed shouldn't it?

danthefan

Digifriendly wrote: »

One simple question here - when teams are down to 14 and an injury takes place is clock stopped or does time taken up for injury be included in time for sin bin? If it is the latter then the rule should be changed shouldn't it?

A sin binning has no effect on the clock, refs usually stop it when there's an injury but a man being in the bin is no grounds to change the rules imo.

phog

Digifriendly wrote: »

One simple question here - when teams are down to 14 and an injury takes place is clock stopped or does time taken up for injury be included in time for sin bin? If it is the latter then the rule should be changed shouldn't it?

The sin bin last for 10 mins of playing time, so a stopped clock for an injury stops it for the sin bin too.

Shelflife

I read somewhere that the average points scored is 10 including the immediate pen.