Opel Astra Diesel - Engine Explained

potsy11

Hi

I am looking at bringing in an astra from the UK. I had the first one checked out by a mechanic and was just about to buy it until I realised teh VRT on this particular model (1.9 CDTi Design) is at least double than that of a 1.7 or 1.3.

Can anyone explaint the difference and why its so much more expensive?

Thanks

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colm_mcm

emissions and open market selling price on the 1.9 are higher.

You saying the VRT on an 05 1.9 is twice that of an 06 1.3?

potsy11

colm_mcm wrote: »

emissions and open market selling price on the 1.9 are higher.

You saying the VRT on an 05 1.9 is twice that of an 06 1.3?

Yeah. It's 1300-1500 for the 1.3/1.7 and 3400 for the 1.9. I don't get why the 1.9 is double the money. Seems a little crazy.

R.O.R

You do realise they aren't Opel Astra's?

Having a Griffin on the badge means it will be worth a lot less than the equivalent Opel when you come to sell it on?

furtzy

On a side note. On the CDTi 16v Astra check to see if the swirl valve and inlet manifold were changed. Major problem with this engine that could cost you upwards on €800 if not done. Lots were done under warranty in the UK so you might be lucky

lifer_sean

furtzy wrote: »

On a side note. On the CDTi 16v Astra check to see if the swirl valve and inlet manifold were changed. Major problem with this engine that could cost you upwards on €800 if not done. Lots were done under warranty in the UK so you might be lucky

They are all CDTi 16Vs, which one are you talking about ? 1.3/1.7/1.9 ?

Pdfile

R.O.R wrote: »

You do realise they aren't Opel Astra's?

Having a Griffin on the badge means it will be worth a lot less than the equivalent Opel when you come to sell it on?

depends on the consumer really, its only Truely a badge.

furtzy

lifer_sean wrote: »

They are all CDTi 16Vs, which one are you talking about ? 1.3/1.7/1.9 ?

The 1.9

R.O.R

Pdfile wrote: »

depends on the consumer really, its only Truely a badge.

And who would the consumer be? Yes, the general public - who are afraid of things which are slightly different.

We've had a few Irish Reg Vauxhalls to sell this year on behalf of a customer and they've made no where near what the equivalent Opel would make.

EPM

lifer_sean wrote: »

They are all CDTi 16Vs, which one are you talking about ? 1.3/1.7/1.9 ?

There's an 8v 1.9. It's the 120 brake model. This one avoids the swirl valve problem afaik but open to correction

furtzy

EPM wrote: »

There's an 8v 1.9. It's the 120 brake model. This one avoids the swirl valve problem afaik but open to correction

Correct. Its only on the 16v. €650 parts plus 6 hours labour to fix apparently :eek:...and mine has started giving the exact error codes for this problem

potsy11

Not too concerned about the badge. I intend hanging onto the car for 3-5 yrs so it won't be worth much then anyway.