The budget

markpb

Does anyone know if the carbon tax on petrol and diesel will affect public transport companies and their ticket prices?

monument

Press release from the Department of Transport:

Press release 9 December 2009

Minister Dempsey announces €2.787 billion budget for Transport in 2010

€0.92 billion for public transport
€1.72 billion for roads of which
- €1.31 billion for national roads including €37.5million for road safety
- €411 million for upkeep and maintenance of regional and local roads
€53 million for the maritime sector, principally safety
€23.2 million for the aviation sector, mainly regional airports

The Minister for Transport today (9 December) announced the 2010 Estimates provision for his Department:

€2.1 billion for capital investment
€686 million for current expenditure.

The capital provision is down €298 million (12.4 %) on the revised Estimates allocation for 2009.

The underlying provision for current expenditure is down € 60.3 million on the revised 2009 allocation, following implementation of a range of cuts based on the McCarthy Report recommendations.

Following are the principal features of the 2010 Estimates for Transport:

Public Transport € 920 million

The public transport subvention provision payable to CIE is €276 million. This is a reduction of €27 million (8.8%). We have indicated to CIE that the Government will not sanction any fare increase. The CIE companies will seek to minimise the impact by continuing their work to reduce costs and increase efficiency.

The provision for the Rural Transport Programme is being maintained at €11 million in recognition of the important role it plays in combating rural isolation, particularly for older people. In 2009 services supported by the Programme are expected to carry 1.5 million passengers. In line with the commitment in the Renewed Programme for Government, a series of studies are underway to see how we can better integrate rural transport services, including the Rural Transport Programme, Bus Eireann rural stage carriage services, health related and school transport services, and get better value for public spending in this area.

The capital provision for public transport investment in 2010 is €625 million, €3 million lower than in 2009. This will see the completion of a number of important projects as follows:

Western Rail Corridor Phase 1
Luas extension to Cherrywood
Kildare Rail Project
Navan Rail Line Phase 1

Work will continue on the Luas extension to Citywest for completion in 2011.

In keeping with the commitment in the Renewed Programme for Government, priority is being given to the delivery of Metro North and the DART Underground Programme. Planning and design work will continue on the remaining Transport 21 projects with a view to the earliest possible delivery as financial resources become available.

Funding is being maintained for a number of important public transport programmes, including railway safety, accessibility, integrated ticketing and traffic management/bus priority.

Roads €1,637million

The 2010 provision for the improvement and maintenance of roads is €1.637billion, €280.5million (14.6%) down on the revised 2009 allocation. The details are as follows:

The 2010 capital provision for national roads is €1.115 4billion, €287 million (or 20 %) down on 2009. This allocation will fund the very high level of contractual commitments to complete the five major inter- urban motorways and the M50 upgrade in 2010. Major projects expected to be completed in 2010 include:

M3 Clonee – North of Kells
N7 Nenagh – Limerick
N7 Limerick Tunnel
M7 Castletown – Nenagh
M7/M8 Portlaoise – Cullahill/Castletown
N9 Waterford – Knocktopher
N9 Carlow – Knocktopher
M9 Kilcullen – Carlow
M50 Upgrade Phase 2
Motorway service areas (Tranche 1)

By the end of 2010 we will have completed some 750 km of motorway linking Dublin with the principal cities in the country, reducing journey times, increasing the reliability of journeys and improving road safety. This is a major achievement and reflects great credit on the NRA, local authorities, contractors and consultants. Over €2 billion of private funding has been raised to part fund the investment.

The future priorities for national road investment will be:

· To implement a number of new PPP projects, principally on the Atlantic Road Corridor and the N11,
· To protect the existing investment in national roads, especially national secondaries.

The 2010 provision for the maintenance and improvement of regional and local roads will be €411million, down € 35 million (8%) in line with the McCarthy recommendations. This funding will be used almost exclusively to maintain the fabric of the extensive network of some 90,000 kilometres.

Smarter Travel €25 million
The provision for carbon reduction measures is being increased from €10 million to €25 million in 2010. This will enable increased funding to be provided for demonstration sustainable transport projects and for other measures to encourage sustainable travel.

The Green Schools provision is being maintained at €2 million. To date this programme has achieved a 22% reduction in car use for school travel in participating schools.

Road Safety €37.5 million

The 2010 provision for road safety is €37.5 million, compared with €37.2 million in 2009. This will help maintain the encouraging downward trend in road accident deaths. As of end November, 218 people had lost their lives in road accidents, down 42 on the same period in 2008. The number of fatalities in 2008, at 279, was itself the lowest on record.

Maritime Transport and Safety €53 million
The 2010 provision will be €53 million, compared with €49 million in 2009. The principal item of expenditure is the provision of a search and rescue helicopter service (€27.3million). Also included is expenditure on the Irish Coast Guard, maritime safety and remedial works at regional harbours.

Aviation €23.2 million
The 2010 provision is €23.2 million, compared with €26.2 million in 2009. This funding principally supports the provision of essential air services at regional airports as well as providing operational subvention and funding for essential capital works at these airports.

Administrative Expenditure €2.9 million

The administrative budget of the Department of Transport is being reduced by €2.9 million (7%) in 2010 as recommended in the McCarthy Report. Reductions totalling €2 million are also being made in the administrative budgets of a number of agencies, principally the National Roads Authority, Railway Procurement Agency and Railway Safety Commission. These figures do not include the reductions in public service pay announced by the Minister for Finance earlier today.

PPP Operational Payments
This is the only area of expenditure showing a significant increase of €43.4 million in 2010. The funding is used to make annual payments to remunerate PPP financing for road projects where the private investment is not remunerated by tolls. The expenditure involved will increase in 2010 as more road PPP projects are implemented.

ENDS

Further information:
Department of Transport Press Office: Tel: (01) 604 1090 / (01) 604 1091


Appendix


Public Transport Programmes in 2010


Railway Safety Programme
Rail Ticketing Systems and Equipment
Removal of Rail Speed Restrictions
Rail Road Crossings Automation
City Centre Rail Resignalling
National Rail Resignalling
Rail Rolling Stock

Quality Bus Corridor programme in GDA
Bus priority programme and park and ride in regional cities
Public transport accessibility programme
Integrated ticketing
Dublin Bus Automatic Vehicle Location System (AVLS)
Real Time Passenger Information

Planning and design on rail, light rail & metro projects to railway order.

National Roads PPPs 2010

In Construction
M3 Clonee – North of Kells
N7 Nenagh Limerick
N7 Limerick Tunnel
M7/M8 Portlaise-Culahill/Castletown
M50 Upgare Phase 2
M1 & M4 Motorway Service Areas (Tranche 1)


In Preparation
N17/18 Gort to Tuam At tender stage

N11 Arklow to Rathnew
(including Newlands Cross) At pre-qualification stage

M11 Gorey to Enniscorthy/ Pre-qualification commencing early 2010

N25 New Ross Bypass` (inclusion of New Ross Bypass dependent on outcome of judicial review)

Galway City Outer Bypass Dependent on outcome of judicial review

The NRA are also considering an additional bundle of PPP projects, and progress on these will be determined by availability of funding.

crocro

markpb wrote: »

Does anyone know if the carbon tax on petrol and diesel will affect public transport companies and their ticket prices?

No mention of an exemption for public transport companies though it may be inserted as an amendment during the debate on the finance bill.

Capital spending estimates for transport:

2009                       2010
roads  public transport    roads public transport
1736m              628m    1443m             621m

so a reduction of 11% for roads and 1% of public transport. Still miles off the promised 2:1 spending in favour of public vs private transport from the greens programme for government.

Also a strange new proposal to provide discount vouchers to old tourists for railway travel.

Chris_533976

Sounds like the NRA are thinking of PPP Tranche 3. Could be interesting.

Sponge Bob

The 2:1 ratio kicks in in 2011 not in 2010 and will be implemented by reducing that roads budget to around €320m in 2011 and not by any serious increase in public transport funding. CIE ran a deficit of €400m most years recently which is where most of that money will go in 2010 too.

The €200m left will pay for a few bus lanes and a few trains and the other 2 new luas extensions and a lot of consultants to progress the Dublin megaprojects.

There is no money for land acquisition for Metro North or for Interconnector in there during 2010 so they will not go anywhere much next year either.

AlekSmart

Also a strange new proposal to provide discount vouchers to old tourists for railway travel

Strange is correct.....its almost the stuff of Monty Python....."I`m old...but I`m clean!!"

Oddly enough it specifically mentions Iarnrod Éireann as being brought on board for this little exercise....No mention of Buses or Coaches being considered....?

Steviemak

When does the 4.2c per litre come on to the petrol? Usually it would be midnight tonight but its doesn't seem to be as clear cut this time as the carbon tax is being phased in.

DWCommuter

Steviemak wrote: »

When does the 4.2c per litre come on to the petrol? Usually it would be midnight tonight but its doesn't seem to be as clear cut this time as the carbon tax is being phased in.

Its midnight tonight on petrol and diesel. Next May for home heating products.

Judgement Day

AlekSmart wrote: »

Strange is correct.....its almost the stuff of Monty Python....."I`m old...but I`m clean!!"

Oddly enough it specifically mentions Iarnrod Éireann as being brought on board for this little exercise....No mention of Buses or Coaches being considered....?

This bird will never fly....Failte Ireland and CIE...ffs!!...the two biggest semi-state dinosaurs going to 'drive' Irish tourism - a recipe for disaster. If that stupid f.....kr had announced the abolition of one or both of the aforementioned concerns that indeed would have been a step in the right direction. :rolleyes:

KC61

markpb wrote: »

Does anyone know if the carbon tax on petrol and diesel will affect public transport companies and their ticket prices?

From the DoT press release:

"The public transport subvention provision payable to CIE is €276 million. This is a reduction of €27 million (8.8%). We have indicated to CIE that the Government will not sanction any fare increase. The CIE companies will seek to minimise the impact by continuing their work to reduce costs and increase efficiency."


This of course refers to regulated fares only!

DWCommuter

A predictable budget in transport terms.

Contractual obligations on roads and a slow culling of major T21 projects. It will take some economic turnaround to put this country in a position to fund metro and interconnector.

The near 300 million CIE subvention continues to make me feel like vomiting. How many more years of utter waste can the Irish public be expected to tolerate. If IE want their precious DART tunnel, then I suggest they start sorting themselves out.

Sponge Bob

Full DOT press release here, the €600m figure does not include the CIE subvention, I was wrong. It looks like CIE have not paid yet for the WRC or the Kildare project despite them being complete.

http://www.transport.ie/pressRelease.aspx?Id=149

Public Transport €920 million

The public transport subvention provision payable to CIE is €276 million. This is a reduction of €27 million (8.8%). We have indicated to CIE that the Government will not sanction any fare increase. The CIE companies will seek to minimise the impact by continuing their work to reduce costs and increase efficiency.

The provision for the Rural Transport Programme is being maintained at €11 million in recognition of the important role it plays in combating rural isolation, particularly for older people. In 2009 services supported by the Programme are expected to carry 1.5 million passengers. In line with the commitment in the Renewed Programme for Government, a series of studies are underway to see how we can better integrate rural transport services, including the Rural Transport Programme, Bus Eireann rural stage carriage services, health related and school transport services, and get better value for public spending in this area.


The capital provision for public transport investment in 2010 is €625 million, €3 million lower than in 2009. This will see the completion of a number of important projects as follows:

Western Rail Corridor Phase 1
Luas extension to Cherrywood
Kildare Rail Project
Navan Rail Line Phase 1

Work will continue on the Luas extension to Citywest for completion in 2011.

In keeping with the commitment in the Renewed Programme for Government, priority is being given to the delivery of Metro North and the DART Underground Programme. Planning and design work will continue on the remaining Transport 21 projects with a view to the earliest possible delivery as financial resources become available.

Funding is being maintained for a number of important public transport programmes, including railway safety, accessibility, integrated ticketing and traffic management/bus priority.

Sponge Bob

A bit more digging shows that the at least €60m of the €625m is for more Intercity trains that are arriving in 2010 . The rest of it will be payments for rail and luas lines under construction or built or wose still built and under water :eek:

The capital provision for public transport investment in 2010 is €625 million, €3 million lower than in 2009. This will see the completion of a number of important projects as follows:

Western Rail Corridor Phase 1
Luas extension to Cherrywood
Kildare Rail Project
Navan Rail Line Phase 1

Work will continue on the Luas extension to Citywest for completion in 2011.

together with.

Railway Safety Programme
Rail Ticketing Systems and Equipment
Removal of Rail Speed Restrictions
Rail Road Crossings Automation
City Centre Rail Resignalling
National Rail Resignalling
Rail Rolling Stock

Quality Bus Corridor programme in GDA
Bus priority programme and park and ride in regional cities
Public transport accessibility programme
Integrated ticketing
Dublin Bus Automatic Vehicle Location System (AVLS)
Real Time Passenger Information

LOL at this one , fecking drivers wont answer their radios

Dublin Bus Automatic Vehicle Location System (AVLS)

KC61

Sponge Bob wrote: »

LOL at this one , fecking drivers wont answer their radios

Dublin Bus Automatic Vehicle Location System (AVLS)

With due respect although you might not think it, this is (for transport users in Dublin) one of the most important elements of the transport budget.

It will see the rollout of GPS technology across the Dublin Bus fleet that will finally:

1) Give Controllers accurate information on bus locations rather than the existing situation where they can only find out by calling drivers on the radio
2) Give Schedulers accurate information about running times at different times of the day
3) Enable schedules to be developed with reasonably accurate intermediate times
4) Provide the potential to eliminate early/late departures by drivers
5) Enable the rollout of on-board PIS information
6) Enable the rollout of web, text and on-street Passenger information systems
7) Provide at long last an effective method of managing the entire daily Dublin Bus operation

Frankly this (long awaited - due to political stonewalling) rollout will be one of the most fundamental changes in how Dublin Bus manages its operation in years and will hopefully result in a far more customer-focussed service.

KC61

Sponge Bob wrote: »

A bit more digging shows that the at least €60m of the €625m is for more Intercity trains that are arriving in 2010 . The rest of it will be payments for rail and luas lines under construction or built or wose still built and under water :eek:

The trains are not arriving unfortunately until 2011 - building starts in 2010.

DWCommuter

From breakingnews.ie

The Transport Minister Noel Dempsey has warned of further reductions to rail and bus services next year due to Budget cuts.

The public transport subvention to CIE - which operates Irish Rail, Bus Eireann and Dublin Bus - is being reduced by 9% or €27m.

Mr Dempsey said the Government will not sanction any fare increases despite the shortfall in funding.


Read more: http://www.breakingnews.ie/budget2010/news/budget-cuts-will-lead-to-reductions-in-bus-services-437649.html#ixzz0ZED4ouV6

http://elfyourself.jibjab.com/view/cB2EIUgJzBR4lDfi?cmpid=ey_fb_self

Knock yoursELVEles out Brian and Brian!

liger

"The public transport subvention to CIE - which operates Irish Rail, Bus Eireann and Dublin Bus - is being reduced by 9% or €27m"

PUBLIC SERVICE PROVISION PAYMENTS …. 2009 - €328,292,000. / 2010 - €290,189,000 reduction of 12%

Sponge Bob

liger wrote: »

"PUBLIC SERVICE PROVISION PAYMENTS …. 2009 - €328,292,000. / 2010 - €290,189,000 reduction of 12%

ehm it was revised in April 2009 don't forget.

http://www.transport.ie/pressRelease.aspx?Id=82

A reduction of €10 million in public transport service payments to CIE, the revised provision being €303 million.

HTH

antoinolachtnai

Technically, this is no longer supposed to be a subvention. There is a payment for services rendered under a public service contract, which is quite a different thing.

dowlingm

Where can CIE cut, specifically IE? If the WRC is opened per the timetable then that's quite a few more RPKs to cover with the same subvention. If the Dunboyne section opens that's more. With a 5% cut (assuming equal treatment) and no extra fare revenue (likely less with commuters being fired which won't be replaced by long thin routes like WRC) but more revenue kilometers then you're going to have to cut nearer 7-10% to make it work, right? Not to mention the almighty financial hit the Malahide bridge probably was to the 2009 books. I suspect parking at IE car parks is also about to rise sharply as it's one of the few things they can do to scrape a few pennies together.