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"Oi! I can has your kidneys?" Are you an Organ Donor?

  • 09-12-2009 1:39pm
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    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,662 CMod ✭✭✭✭


    This was been talked about on the radio today. Ive been on organ donor since I started driving, I just ticked the box on my drivers license. I could never understand why we have such a shortage of donors in Ireland. Afterall, when you are dead, you are dead!

    Are you a donor? If not, what is it that prevents you from doing it?

    Are you an Organ donor? 181 votes

    Yes
    0% 0 votes
    No, couldnt be arsed
    74% 135 votes
    No, I dont trust them scientists with my body when I'm dead
    13% 24 votes
    No, not a chance
    4% 9 votes
    hehehe he said organ...
    7% 13 votes


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    all my organs are fucked after years of abuse


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Yup.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Is there any point in ticking a box or anything? I though it was still left to the next of kin to decide?

    I'd hate if I have any useful organs in me and they were buried. Should be an opt-out rather than opt-in situation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,861 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    Like the first reply I'd say by the time im finished, my organs will only be good for medical research.

    The truth is I have never really been bothered, I suppose if i was to die young then i would prefer my organs to go to help if it was possible rather than rot in a hole with the rest of my carcass, but I am a bit lazy. So I'll probably get around to be being a donor tomorrow or next week or sometime soon. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    I am since January.

    When my 10 year old cousin died his parents allowed his organs to be donated to sick/dying people who needed them.

    At his funeral it was announced that my cousin had saved a 5 year old child, a 13 year old and a 36 year old man with a wife and kids.

    So yes I am an organ donor.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    faceman wrote: »
    I could never understand why we have such a shortage of donors in Ireland. Afterall, when you are dead, you are dead!

    It's more down to the fact that the number of viable organs are actually quite small coupled with the short timeframe you have between the death of the donor and getting them into a recipient.

    That said it should be an opt-out not an opt-in system, it wouldn't mean organs for everyone that needs them, but it would maximise the number of viable organs for transplant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    Yup. I'm an organ donor.

    My uncle has had one kidney transplant and has been on dialysis for the past three years since that kidney failed.

    He can only receive a kidney from a live and preferably, family donor at this stage, having built up antibodies etc. Neither of his two sons are a match, nor any of his brothers or sister, but I am. However, due to a weak immune system, he hasn't been well enough for surgery.

    Knowing the benefits of organ donation, of course I want to be one. My uncle has a wife, three children, they need him. By helping him, I would also be helping so many other people.

    Anyone who is an organ donor is not just touching one life, imo, but many more and I can't even express how deep the thanks runs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭genericguy


    I'd like to pre-emptively take this opportunity to call any non-donor a prick.

    Your organs can save numerous lives, and there is no evidence to support the validity of any excuse.

    -you will not become a ghost requiring organs
    -god has never come down to tell us that organs are necessary as part of the entry requirement for heaven.
    -you rot in the ground when you die.

    and, by the way, anyone who isn't a donor based on some bullshit excuse that "it's horrible to cut people up when they die" or "you can have everything but my eyes", I hope you get refused for a transplant in your lifetime.

    EDIT: you're obviously not a prick if you simply haven't got a card but your family would ensure donation. however, if one's mother blocked a donation, then one's mother would be a prick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    When you're dead, you're gone, you won't need your organs any more, so organ donation should be mandatory unless someone has specifically applied to opt out.

    Unfortunately under some archaic rule, the family of the deceased can always block organ donation, in spite of any wish of the deceased or any prior legal agreement to donate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    genericguy wrote: »
    I'd like to pre-emptively take this opportunity to call any non-donor a prick.

    Your organs can save numerous lives, and there is no evidence to support the validity of any excuse.

    -you will not become a ghost requiring organs
    -god has never come down to tell us that organs are necessary as part of the entry requirement for heaven.
    -you rot in the ground when you die.

    and, by the way, anyone who isn't a donor based on some bullshit excuse that "it's horrible to cut people up when they die" or "you can have everything but my eyes", I hope you get refused for a transplant in your lifetime.

    I'm a "non-donor" as I've never filled in any forms but isn't that irrelevant? Everyone in my family is in favour of organ donation but since the family's permission has to be got whether you have a card or not then how am I a prick?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    That_Guy wrote: »
    I am since January.

    When my 10 year old cousin died his parents allowed his organs to be donated to sick/dying people who needed them.

    At his funeral it was announced that my cousin had saved a 5 year old child, a 13 year old and a 36 year old man with a wife and kids.

    So yes I am an organ donor.

    That's amazing, making me a teary eyed here.

    I am an organ donor although I lost my card recently but my next of kin would make sure my organs were donated if they were of use.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭genericguy


    amacachi wrote: »
    I'm a "non-donor" as I've never filled in any forms but isn't that irrelevant? Everyone in my family is in favour of organ donation but since the family's permission has to be got whether you have a card or not then how am I a prick?

    here we go. if you're in support of organ donation isn't that a little bit different to somebody who doesn't want to give their organs in case they turn into patrick swayze from ghost?

    in your case i think it's obvious that you don't meet my prick criteria, however, i'd encourage you to get off your hole and sign away them there organs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 371 ✭✭Kradock


    all my organs are fucked after years of abuse


    Well leave it alone.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Have been for years.
    Don't smoke or drink in particular so that should something happen to me, they will hopefully be in better shape to be of use.
    Honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    "No, I dont trust them scientists with my body when I'm dead "


    Who ticked that option? :) I'd love to know what people think doctors do to dead bodies. Either way, a good gang raping wont do you any harm when your dead.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 371 ✭✭Kradock


    Yes I am a donor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,861 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    Stekelly wrote: »
    "No, I dont trust them scientists with my body when I'm dead "


    Who ticked that option? :) I'd love to know what people think doctors do to dead bodies. Either way, a good gang raping wont do you any harm when your dead.

    I ticked it!

    If the options there im thinking it. Who are you to question my right to tick a box?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭genericguy


    Biggins wrote: »
    Have been for years.
    Don't smoke or drink in particular so that should something happen to me, they will hopefully be in better shape to be of use.
    Honest.

    but biggins, if you donate then perhaps muhammadallyackbar won't let you in heaven for your 732 virgins because you're not whole.

    whatever will you do?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    I ticked it!

    If the options there im thinking it. Who are you to question my right to tick a box?


    I print the boxes.


    genericguy wrote: »
    but biggins, if you donate then perhaps muhammadallyackbar won't let you in heaven for your 732 virgins because you're not whole.

    whatever will you do?

    Nah, he'll still have a hole for the virgins to work on.




    Think I have that the worng way :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,207 ✭✭✭meditraitor


    I am,

    and I think the scheme should be changed, people should be automatically donors and if you dont want to be you(your family) should sign up to a non organ donor program.

    Many people would be alive today who died waiting for organs if this was the case


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭genericguy


    I ticked it!

    If the options there im thinking it. Who are you to question my right to tick a box?

    have you ever taken any medicines? eaten any foods? worn any clothes? driven a car? walked on a path/road? been in a plane?

    becuse everyone of these simple things, and everything you use in everyday life is the product of science, and all to make your life more comfortable and easy. now explain to me why any scientist should not be trusted with your dead, not-yet-rotting corpse? what use could you possibly have for it that would be more noble than the cause of training more doctors and nurses?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭sheep-go-baa


    I want to be an organ donor, signed the card, ticked the box and all that jazz. But my next of kin is grossed out/appalled at the idea of it. It's really driving me insane that they get to go against my wishes if i die. Anyway i can get around this?? I've tried threatening them saying I'll come back and haunt them and everything (not that i believe i can but whatever) I just think it's so important.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    genericguy wrote: »
    but biggins, if you donate then perhaps muhammadallyackbar won't let you in heaven for your 732 virgins because you're not whole.

    whatever will you do?

    I've had me share of virgins and I've had me (w)hole.
    I've come (many times :D ) and gone. I'm satisfied. Time for payback now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 152 ✭✭jackthekipper


    Organ donation should be opt out and if you're not willing to donate you shouldn't receive any if you need them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,861 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    genericguy wrote: »
    have you ever taken any medicines? eaten any foods? worn any clothes? driven a car? walked on a path/road? been in a plane?

    becuse everyone of these simple things, and everything you use in everyday life is the product of science, and all to make your life more comfortable and easy. now explain to me why any scientist should not be trusted with your dead, not-yet-rotting corpse? what use could you possibly have for it that would be more noble than the cause of training more doctors and nurses?


    I was thinking of getting preserved somehow and put in a glasss box in my house so no one can forget me ever, thats whats more important than some wannabe dentist playing with my decapitated head and making crude dentist jokes.


    Or


    I ticked the box cause it was there and it was a silly answer.

    The choice is yours genericguy!

    I dont owe science anything least of all my body, if people choose to do so thats great but medical students are not entitled to my or anyone else's body becasue of LCD TV's, MTV's or men on the moon.:cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,207 ✭✭✭meditraitor


    Organ donation should be opt out and if you're not willing to donate you shouldn't receive any if you need them.
    A bit more drastic than my idea, morally dodgy. I would agree with it though


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Would be happy for them to have whatever they want of me once I'm done with this body. They would never actually take any of me though so I would only be of any use for medical students to cut up, and I intend to go out in a way that mangles the body too much for it to be of any use for that either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,081 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    faceman wrote: »
    This was been talked about on the radio today. Ive been on organ donor since I started driving, I just ticked the box on my drivers license. I could never understand why we have such a shortage of donors in Ireland. Afterall, when you are dead, you are dead!

    Are you a donor? If not, what is it that prevents you from doing it?

    Just because you ticked the box on your driver's license and carry an organ donor card doesn't mean you're an organ donor. You also have to inform your next of kin. I have a donor card and the box ticked on my driver's license but I don't actually know if my organs will end up being donated should I be killed.

    Like others have said, we should have an opt-out rather than an opt-in system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,458 ✭✭✭CathyMoran


    Am one of the people more likely to need a transplant in the future (am prone to kidney disease) but would not be allowed to donate as am a recent cancer surviver...before I got diabetes I had a card (was under 10). Would not donate my body for medical research.


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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    amacachi wrote: »
    Should be an opt-out rather than opt-in situation.

    Couldn't agree more.
    To bury perfectly good organs while people are dying/in desperate need, makes no sense to me at all.
    In fact, it's criminal!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭smk89


    all my organs are fucked after years of abuse

    Better than nothing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 152 ✭✭jackthekipper


    A bit more drastic than my idea, morally dodgy. I would agree with it though

    The not receiving if you don't give is the bit I assume you mean dodgy? As someone on here said before; an eye for an eye. Usuually people who don't want to give consider their body sacred and shouldn't be chopped up, so why put someone else through it for them?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    The not receiving if you don't give is the bit I assume you mean dodgy? As someone on here said before; an eye for an eye. Usuually people who don't want to give consider their body sacred and shouldn't be chopped up, so why put someone else through it for them?

    Because we should try to hold ourselves to a higher standard than the worst of our society?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭upmeath


    I'm a reproductive organ donor, I'll give my wang to whoever wants it.



    On a more serious note, yes, I am an organ donor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 986 ✭✭✭Bill-e


    I never saw that thing on the drivers licence before. I just checked it there and signed it. I rather they didn't use my eye balls as I think they are mine and no one else's.

    My only worry is that on an operating table the decision to give up got effected by the fact that I was a donner kebab or not. I'd rather they didn't get informed about that until after...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,472 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    fúck em...I'm getting cremated so I need all my body parts to keep the mourners warm :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,089 ✭✭✭✭LizT


    I am an organ donor. My family know my wishes, should anything happen to me.

    As has been said several times, they're no use to you when you're dead. I honestly don't understand why someone would refuse, but that's just my own personal opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,081 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Bill-e wrote: »
    I never saw that thing on the drivers licence before. I just checked it there and signed it. I rather they didn't use my eye balls as I think they are mine and no one else's.

    They don't use your eyeballs, only your corneas. No-one would even notice they were gone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭Dancor


    No reason for me not to be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Bill-e wrote: »
    I never saw that thing on the drivers licence before. I just checked it there and signed it. I rather they didn't use my eye balls as I think they are mine and no one else's.
    0_o
    What's the difference? Are you afraid they might see things they shouldn't? :confused:
    My only worry is that on an operating table the decision to give up got effected by the fact that I was a donner kebab or not. I'd rather they didn't get informed about that until after...
    Since it takes a bit of work to match an organ to a suitable patient, it's very unlikely that the surgeon will think, "The guy in 22A needs a new kidney, so I think I'll give up on the guy on the table in the slim hope that he's a suitable donor". It's also a little disrespectful to surgeons and doctors to say that they'll sacrifice one person for another :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    genericguy wrote: »
    I'd like to pre-emptively take this opportunity to call any non-donor a prick.

    Your organs can save numerous lives, and there is no evidence to support the validity of any excuse.
    .
    Some people fear that doctors, desperate for organs, might kill them quicker/ not try and save them.

    There was one case where harvesting began almost immediately - possibly before the person was actually brain dead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    seamus wrote: »
    Since it takes a bit of work to match an organ to a suitable patient, it's very unlikely that the surgeon will think, "The guy in 22A needs a new kidney, so I think I'll give up on the guy on the table in the slim hope that he's a suitable donor". It's also a little disrespectful to surgeons and doctors to say that they'll sacrifice one person for another :)

    There have actually been a few slightly 'dodgy' cases where doctors didn't seem to try as hard as they normally would, or harvested early.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 49 Varyn


    My parents asked me and my brother when we were teenagers if we wanted to donate our organs if anything happened to us (morbid conversation I know, but a necessary one I think!) and we both said yes. They told us they'd both like to be doners too if anything happened to them. It's nice that it's so clear in the family, saves any arguments or feuds later (god forbid :eek:).

    You're not gonna need them when you're dead after all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    genericguy wrote: »
    here we go. if you're in support of organ donation isn't that a little bit different to somebody who doesn't want to give their organs in case they turn into patrick swayze from ghost?

    in your case i think it's obvious that you don't meet my prick criteria, however, i'd encourage you to get off your hole and sign away them there organs.

    As I said I just don't see the point, it'll still be down to my parents whether they're donated or not.
    At the very least there should be a facility for people to sign off on donation should anything happen to them. If that were the case I'd sign up immediately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭mud


    That_Guy wrote: »
    I am since January.

    When my 10 year old cousin died his parents allowed his organs to be donated to sick/dying people who needed them.

    At his funeral it was announced that my cousin had saved a 5 year old child, a 13 year old and a 36 year old man with a wife and kids.

    So yes I am an organ donor.

    Condolences to your family That_Guy :(

    My cousin died suddenly at 35, his organs went on to save four lives.

    A letter from one of the recipients was read out at his month's mind.

    It was a chink of light in a very very black day.

    All my family are now donors myself included.

    Completely agree with the opt-out rather than opt-in idea. Let's face it, a return of four lives saved to one life lost is a pretty good return.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Yep, donor here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    My wife said they can have what ever they want from me as long as they give my her my manhood. She reckons it will never be so stiff for so long......

    Jokeing aside. it would be a great thing to know that in your death you helped someone live or just as good you helped a scientist find a cure for some disese.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 928 ✭✭✭bertie4evr




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    Yup since i was 18. Told me folks to hawk everything if i die, although I'd rather not donate my eyes,the idea of someone walking around with my eyes kinds freaks me out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I am but according to the Guidelines from the American Red Cross, I really shouldnt be, from Living in Ireland after the beginning of the Mad Cow outbreak.

    Seems like bureaucracy to me though. them kidneys could save someone yet.


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