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Big engines, quote your MPG here

  • 08-12-2009 6:59pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,661 ✭✭✭


    Well the purpose of this thread is to see how "uneconomical" big engines cars actually are. Everyone mouths off about jeeps, SUVs and large saloons drinking the juice, when in fact I find they are not far off the consumption of underpowered Paddywagons, obviously depending on how large you go.

    I'd be interested to see what other large-engined cars are doing MPG wise. Most cars on the road and peoples heads are still working off MPG, so we'll stick to MPG. You can quote your urban/extra urban/average figures if you like, engines 2.5l+ would be preferable.

    2000 728i, 2.8l petrol.

    I do 90% city driving and average 21MPG. On the motorway I see 36MPG. A 500 mile round trip to Galway I got 31MPG with 4 people and luggage.

    What are you getting?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    My motorhome: 2.5 liter TD powering a 3.5 ton shed on wheels ...between 10 and 13 l/100 km

    Edit: that would be 28 or 22 of those imperial measures of distance to the imperial measure of volume for the old fashioned among us :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,718 ✭✭✭.Longshanks.


    This will work better if everybody uses the same measurement.
    Easy conversion --->click here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,122 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    E34 BMW 530i 3.0l V8 auto - commute into Dublin city centre. Mainly Dublin driving + regular longer trips: 20MPG

    E38 BMW 735i 3.5l V8 auto - no commute into city centre. Mainly Dublin driving + infrequent longer trips: 21MPG

    Porsche 928 4.7l V8 auto - mixed driving: 20MPG

    Rover 75 1.8l manual - mixed driving, lots of short trips: 28MPG

    More proof for your point, Voodoomelon :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,036 ✭✭✭BArra


    2.5ltr turbo ST

    35mpg on a long run

    average 25mpg

    can get under 20 though but its like throwing euro's out the window :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    BMW 523 E39 2.5L about 25mpg - mostly city driving and the odd long distance haul.

    Pontiac Firebird T/A 6.6L about 16mpg motorway, way less if I'm just tooling around!


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,234 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Car: E39 523i 2.5L
    Consumption: don't really know and don't really care!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    In before someone quotes me 60mpg for his/her Audi or VAG TDi. I do not believe!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,618 ✭✭✭Heroditas


    E60 523i 2.5L

    Quite a mix of city and long trips

    City driving: 25MPG

    Just drove to Cork today: 36MPG


    Average for me: 31MPG


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,661 ✭✭✭Voodoomelon


    MCMLXXV wrote: »
    BMW 523 E39 2.5L about 25mpg - mostly city driving and the odd long distance haul.

    Pontiac Firebird T/A 6.6L about 16mpg motorway, way less if I'm just tooling around!
    Heroditas wrote: »
    E60 523i 2.5L

    Quite a mix of city and long trips

    City driving: 25MPG

    Just drove to Cork today: 36MPG


    Average for me: 31MPG

    They're both great figures.

    Out of interest, what would your average 2004 1.4 litre Astra or Golf get?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,475 ✭✭✭bitemybanger


    2.0 GTi 50 euro gets me from Navan to Rathmines and home again for the week
    The oul 6th gear comes in handy on the N3, Low revs=less fuel:)
    But if im running a bit late, Ooooh no:(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    2006 Leon 1.6.

    Best I've seen out of a tank was 37 mpg (my calculations). It will do mid 40's with air con off and driven like a saint.

    Average is about 34 mpg to a tank, mostly N and M roads, climate control always on auto, overtaking where possible and usually slightly higher than the speed limit (110 in 100's, 135 in 120's) with cruise on where possible. I blame the low gearing for a lot of it though (3.7k rpm at 120:eek:) but still not a whole lot better compared to the cars mentioned.

    Great thread idea btw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    They're both great figures.

    Out of interest, what would your average 2004 1.4 litre Astra or Golf get?

    No idea! Haven't had a car under 2.5L in......must be 10 years!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 143 ✭✭An Ard Ri


    BMW 320ci (E46)

    City Driving: 21-22mpg
    Motorway Driving (observing the speed limit): 35 mpg
    Motorway Driving (belting it): 30 mpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Rovi


    2003 Audi RS-6 (4.2l bi-turbo)
    Long runs (mostly motorway, cruise set to 80 MPH): 24 MPG
    Everyday average (40% town, 40% open road, 20% motorway): 21 MPG
    Acting the maggot: mid to low teens
    Foot to the floor: 5 MPG


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭niceirishfella


    Bmw 535d - avg 33mpg , 25 pushing her on;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭knifey_spoonie


    Im getting 31 MPG, and thats from a yaris.

    Also was getting about 28mpg from a 3.0 D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭Dazzy


    E53 X5 3.0D
    Best I ever got was almost 28 MPG, worst was 16MPG after spending 4.5 hours in traffic for what should have been a 20 mins journey because of the snow last year.
    Average about 24MPG.

    I used to keep a spreadsheet :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    For comparison

    my 2003 1.4 focus

    Full tank of 55 litres will get me ~400 miles, so 33.3 mpg, thereabouts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 993 ✭✭✭bf


    2.5 Focus ST

    Getting 23.5 mpg on city driving.

    Dublin to Limerick today got 34 mpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭ytareh


    Good idea for a thread .Four wheel drive is probably more of a killer than high cc .Some of the 'souped' up JDM Imprezas/Lancer Evos etc are just beyond funny .(I remember once having a Lancer GSR that I couldnt get to a third day without having to visit a petrol station...)I guess obviously it all depends on how far you drive .If you only drive 'round town' and the odd long spin you can pamper yerself with a gas guzzler but for the commuting classes we need at LEAST 30-35mpg .


    Was doin a few 'sums ' on this today as thinking of changing

    1 litre Toyota Aygo 52MPG Vs 30mpg sporty wagon Vs 25mpg super sporty wagon = 1625 vs 2815 vs 3375 euro a year .Or to put it another way 135 vs 234 vs 281 euro a month .

    Of course there are diesels out there that will do over 60mpg comfortably.
    Strange to see that the NEW Cooper Diesel (80mpg+)is now the most economical car as the old one was no great shakes .

    Keeping on topic I guess that old 1.6 Lancer GSR 1991 would average 26-28mpg and I like to think I drive fairly 'economically'.By contrast 1989 Opel Kadett GSi 16V would do 40-43 mpg.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    2litre Clio

    Town driving, about 31mpg, motorway driving, about 45-46mpg.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭Theanswers


    Range Rover 2006 3.0 Disiel.

    Around town=21mpg.
    Not being to easy with the pedal at the lights= 16mpg
    Long Trip= 27mpg

    Worst i ever got was 6mpg, thats with trailor and foot to the floor. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,718 ✭✭✭.Longshanks.


    I know this thread is mainly for large engine cars, but for comparison my 1.6T corsa has given me a lifetime average of 32.5mpg (according to the trip computer). Never bothered the brim to brim test.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭anthony4335


    How does everyone do there checks, ie are you using the trip computers or are you doing it by acutal millage vrs consumption.

    Mine however not a large engine, IS200 29-30MPG every time I check it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,661 ✭✭✭Voodoomelon


    Its interesting to note the comparative inefficiencies of small petrol engines, pushing smaller cars. My old 97 Polo had a 1 litre block and I don't think it did any better than 30MPG. The car was incredibly heavy and the engine was so very small.

    Newer smaller diesels are of course miles ahead, but when it comes to petrol engines, the big blocks aren't really that much off the smaller ones.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭Green Hornet


    Seeing as there are a few smaller engined cars creeping in here I'll include my Civic 1.8L.

    43 mpg - almost all over main road driving and 80 mile round trip/day. Pretty decent for a 1.8L i think?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,630 ✭✭✭The Recliner


    I used to have a Jag XK8, it was a 4L V8 (God I loved that thing)

    I was getting around 28mpg out of it, mainly cross country trips

    My current RX-8 gets around the same mpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,718 ✭✭✭Matt Simis


    Both on long trips (everywhere is far away from me) 75km distance, 50% motorway.

    BMW 530i 3.0l I6 Auto 28-30mpg (once got 32 on same but cant get back up there)
    BMW 850CSI 5.6l V12 6speed Manual 18-21mpg.

    Racing around and shorter trips, the 530i is 23mpg and the 850CSI is 15mpg, so the CSI takes less of a hit to economy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭ytareh


    Jeez Recliner I would have thought the RX8 would have been worse than 28mpg...is it 191 or 231bhp version?Do you recommend them?XK8 must have been nice too !


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 867 ✭✭✭gpjordanf1


    Passat 1.8 Turbo Semi - Auto Tiptronic

    Town = 25MPG
    Motorway = 36 MPG
    Motorway = 30 MPG ( In a hurry! )

    Foot to Floor ( 5 - 10 MPG )

    Wifes Citroen C4 Van 1.6 Diesel is averaging 65 MPG!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    squod wrote: »
    In before someone quotes me 60mpg for his/her Audi or VAG TDi. I do not believe!

    Well you will have to believe it i guess.

    I have a 1.9 TDI (115bhp) Audi that does an average 58MPG, no word of a lie. I dont rev the hole out of it, accelerate gradually and keep it to 2000 to 2500 rpm per gear change. I do long distance driving on secondary roads and with little to no traffic jams


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,568 ✭✭✭Blue850


    1973 Merc 230.4 automatic, carburettor, 22mpg avg, once got 26mpg out of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭HashSlinging


    SEAT Altea 2.0 TDi (140 bhp)

    67.26 motorway.
    40.35 city.
    38.70 with a heavy foot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭HashSlinging


    Also MPG seems to be a lot worse if its raining ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭ytareh


    Lucky You Hash!Our Altea XL Irish Market Special 1.4 Petrol does 35.5mpg !Bet the TDi is a beauty to drive...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    Also MPG seems to be a lot worse if its raining ??

    wet tyres will be heavier than dry ones so you may be using more fuel there and road water surface may affect MPG performance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭HashSlinging


    I'm getting good MPG now that I've ditched the 18's also, now running 16s with full winter tyres.

    Shh! Not many Altea fans around here...! 35mpg out of a 1.4 in the XL is respectable. :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭Victor_M


    Current - 3.2L M3 21 Mpg, if I drive like a saint 24 Mpg.
    Previous - E46 328Ci, 26 Mpg
    Previous - E46 320Ci convertible 25 Mpg
    Previous - E46 318Ci 31 Mpg

    Not a huge difference between the various displacements, its a fine line between the car being too heavy for the engine and the engine being more powerful than it needs to be to push the weight around the place at the optimum efficiency.

    Tbh the 328Ci was the best compromise between performance and fuel efficiency. That was a beaut of an engine, the 3.2 is highly strung, takes a while to get to a smooth running temp on a cold morning, goes like a bat out of hell when it does granted, but it's a high performance luxury, the 328 was a nice balance between common sense and poke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,263 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    e39 BMW 525 auto - getting 30mpg on my new commute (all motorway and national roads). 25 MPG when I'm in city traffic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭flamegrill


    Currently driving a 06 passat 2.0 TDI 140 Sport. She does around 5.9l/100km or 48mpg on average. This goes upto 55-60mpg on long journeys.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭DarrenGT4


    i drive a isuzu troper 3.1 jeep. i think its very easy on fuel. dont no for sure what im getting mpg.

    and i have my own daf 85 430hp.12 litre engine. which does roughly 8mpg motor way driveing. about 2mpg if on back roads go up large hills :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 748 ✭✭✭Yawlboy


    2006 BMW 730d - 36.6MPG Cork-Dublin return
    30.0MPG if I drive the arse off it
    31.1MPG average

    2005 Discovery 3 2.7TDV6 Auto - 24.6MPG Average
    18.6MPG towing a trailer to the UK


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 Johnny_Klebitz


    '03 Audi A4 1.9 TDI (130bhp)

    During the summer I decided to record all fuel put into my vehicle's to see which was the cheapest per mile to run on my commute. (Others are motorcycles..)

    Figures are based on the last 8K miles driven by myself since the end of August.

    Overall average was 51.4 mpg mixed driving.
    Best was 54.6 mpg to the tank.
    Worst was 48.7 mpg to the tank.

    Fuel cost 0.09 euro/mile :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭sogood


    E32 1990 BMW 735, average about 28 mpg. Have gotten slightly better, but not bad for a car with almost 20 years under it's belt. I can get a LOT less if I push it and use the "Sport" mode, but great fun!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    '03 Audi A4 1.9 TDI (130bhp)

    During the summer I decided to record all fuel put into my vehicle's to see which was the cheapest per mile to run on my commute. (Others are motorcycles..)

    Figures are based on the last 8K miles driven by myself since the end of August.

    Overall average was 51.4 mpg mixed driving.
    Best was 54.6 mpg to the tank.
    Worst was 48.7 mpg to the tank.

    Fuel cost 0.09 euro/mile :)
    Could the quality of diesel fuel be another factor with MPG? I have heard that fuel quality varies from station to station.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 Johnny_Klebitz


    teednab-el wrote: »
    Could the quality of diesel fuel be another factor with MPG? I have heard that fuel quality varies from station to station.

    I would be inclined to agree, two brands in particular seem to return slightly lower figures than the others. (only talking 2-3mpg though)

    I actually get the same and sometimes better mileage from the discount fuel stations than the bigger brand name stations which seems strange.

    One particular station in Dungarvan sells the no brand fuel and is consistently cheaper (today it was 102.9/L) and it appears that I get better mpg from that station.

    Going to record fuel for the year and see how the seasons affect the mpg... winter seems to make a big difference to the economy, takes the engine longer to warm up.

    Sorry for going OT :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭shabbyalonso


    BMW 840ci sport - E31 - 4.4l - get about 17/18 mpg. Mainly doing short trips.
    On longer excursions, get around 21/22mpg. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭Boots2006


    530d auto 33mpg
    astra 1.4 manual 33mpg
    TT 1.8T manual 25mpg

    All for 50% city centre, and 50% stop start suburban driving.

    Worst was 13 mpg average over 10 miles ... out of the 530d!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 200 ✭✭grudgebringer


    Saab 9-3 2.0 1999 with a gas guzzling 16 MPG, on a good day may reach 17-18 (methinks there may be a hole in the fuel tank :eek:)


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,858 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    1979 Ford Escort MkII RS2000. 4 speed. Has done over 30mpg, but has also done less
    than 12mpg on a track day.

    2009 Fiesta Zetec S. 35mpg. Mainly city stuff.


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