diesel turbos

GERMAN ROCKS

is there any NEW diesel cars for sale today without a turbo. was just talking to a friend and the question arose and we couldnt think of any.

ION08

Dont think so, last ones were VAG sdi's as far as i know

I think they're obsolete much like petrol carb engines

...could be wrong though

Neilw

Doubt it, can't think of any

Alanstrainor

Can't think of any, my pathetic attempts at look up google didn't turn up much either.

EPM

Caddy vans maybe? Aren't there some passenger versions of those available?

Viejo Zorro

Mazda's?

Marlow

Diesels without Turbo aren't very performant.

As you also might have noticed, even the originally naturally aspirated engines are changed for turbo engines in a lot of new models to get emissions down. This applies both to Diesel and Petrol engines.

/M

R.O.R

EPM wrote: »

Caddy vans maybe? Aren't there some passenger versions of those available?

VW used to sell the Caddy with a 2.0SDi engine here, not sure if they still do or not, but we never used to get the passenger versions.

VW are now advertising the Caddy Life (Caddy with seats) but it's only with the 1.9Tdi and 2.0Tdi engines.

I don't think there are any cars with non Turbo Diesel engines available anymore.

PaulKK

VW sold the MK5 golf in the UK with the 2.0 SDI engine, I've seen a few imports for sale popping up here, however I'm not sure if the MKVI is available with it...

Zonda999

PaulKK wrote: »

VW sold the MK5 golf in the UK with the 2.0 SDI engine, I've seen a few imports for sale popping up here, however I'm not sure if the MKVI is available with it...

Wikipedia says its not, the base diesel is the 1.6 CR TDi with 90 or 105bhp. That said in performance terms the ancient 1.4 80bhp petrol, would be as bad as a 2.0 SDi, and less economical!:)

robtri

Don't quote me.... but is the jaguar 2.0d x-type non turbo?????
not sure but something is in back of head about it...

EPM

robtri wrote: »

Don't quote me.... but is the jaguar 2.0d x-type non turbo?????
not sure but something is in back of head about it...

Had a turbo

deRanged

Viejo Zorro wrote: »

Mazda's?

yeah, isn't the 90PS 1.6HDi (PSA engine) non turbo?

Mr Benevolent

deRanged wrote: »

yeah, isn't the 90PS 1.6HDi (PSA engine) non turbo?

Nope, it's a turbo.

colm_mcm

I think Toyota did a 1.4 non turbo 54hp in the Aygo. dunno if its still available.

R.O.R

colm_mcm wrote: »

I think Toyota did a 1.4 non turbo 54hp in the Aygo. dunno if its still available.

Not listed in the new car sales guide for Ireland. May be elsewhere in Europe?

Apparently you can get an iQ with the 1.4D4D 90ps engine! Should be a bit of go in that :P

colm_mcm

You're talking a 2.0/2.7 common rail or 2.9 indirect injection engines on the Ssangyongs.
All turbo.


The Aygo 1.4 N/A was available in the UK in 2005, dunno when the D-4D came along.

E39MSport

Was gonna post and ask if superchargers were covered in this discussion. Apparently the only diesels that are supercharged are trucks that can't afford the lag.
Good discussion here:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/technical-stuff/22865-why-arent-diesel-cars-supercharged.html

colm_mcm

Mazda did a supercharged diesel, think it was in the 626.

GERMAN ROCKS

what were the last of the 1.7 non turbo opel engines in and when did they stop producing them

colm_mcm

The 1.7 non turbo was available on the Combo which is still in production, I assume the 1.3 Fiat engine has replaced it at this stage.

The 1.7 wasn't on the Corsa B (93-00) and all the ones on the Corsa C (00-06) were all turbod.

E39MSport

colm_mcm wrote: »

Mazda did a supercharged diesel, think it was in the 626.

yeah - the comprex diesel i think they called it. Legend.

Biro

E39MSport wrote: »

yeah - the comprex diesel i think they called it. Legend.

I've searched for a used one before and can never find one! Anyone know more about it? Was it the only diesel in the range at a certain time?

E39MSport

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressure_wave_supercharger

I came across 1 ever. Looked exactly the same as the standard apart from a badge.

You'll be very lucky to come across one I'd say.

colm_mcm

A guy in Shannon used to have one, sounded weird. a bit like a v6 actually!

Biro

E39MSport wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressure_wave_supercharger

I came across 1 ever. Looked exactly the same as the standard apart from a badge.

You'll be very lucky to come across one I'd say.

THey must have been sold along side a turbo diesel then, ya?

galwaytt

E39MSport wrote: »

yeah - the comprex diesel i think they called it. Legend.

...indeed, Austrian-made engine.

They should have stuck with those.........

galwaytt

Biro wrote: »

I've searched for a used one before and can never find one! Anyone know more about it? Was it the only diesel in the range at a certain time?

...indeed, great car. You can't miss them, though, they have 'SUPERCHARGED' written in big letters the entire width of the rear panel !

Biro

galwaytt wrote: »

...indeed, great car. You can't miss them, though, they have 'SUPERCHARGED' written in big letters the entire width of the rear panel !

Was it only the 88 version of the 626 had them?

E39MSport

Biro wrote: »

Was it only the 88 version of the 626 had them?

yup - linky tells all.

Pdfile

GERMAN ROCKS wrote: »

is there any NEW diesel cars for sale today without a turbo. was just talking to a friend and the question arose and we couldnt think of any.

small cars sometimes do...


1/1.3/1.5 diesel charade comes to mind ?