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Masturbation and sex education.

  • 06-12-2009 12:46am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭


    Hey lads,

    I was gonna post this Anon but I couldn't be bothered really.

    I just wanted to ask, do ye think proper masturbation technique should be taught as part of sex education?

    I have a few reasons, why I am asking and why I started the thread.

    I have a terrible technique myself, which I can't change, whereby I choke the chicken too hard, This makes Oral on me a pain, because I literally Can't cum if I am getting a BJ, there isn't enough pressure so eventually I just go numb.

    Proper technique can reduce the risk and even get rid of Phimosis, especially if implemented in younger males who are just starting puberty and about to discover Masturbation.

    A really ****ty masturbation technique can make sex a real pain, especially when trying the first few times. I failed more than once because I just wasn't hard enough, I think this could be related to the fact that I don't need to be rock hard to Masturbate. The first time I succeeded was because it had been a few days since my last!

    So just food for thought really, should Proper technique be taught to kids?

    Masturbation taught in Sex Ed. 67 votes

    Yes
    1% 1 vote
    No
    98% 66 votes


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    I think its ridiculas. to even come up with that sort of question.
    To be honest i dont bye the hole should knocking one of be taught to kids personally id feel even sorry for the poor person who'd have to talk about it because no teen would be able to contain any amount of composher so its really very, silly...

    men young and old use masterbation as a satusfaction tactic.
    if your unsatisfied with in your life you start playing with your self more to seek satisfaction.

    there is no harm in masterbation but doing it to much there is. As for not being able to cum during blow jobs or sex... that could be down to desenstising your self which is possiblely from to much masterbation. Things like irectile dissfunction could be a problem in the future.

    also if you liek a perticualr type of porn and find your self going into more stranger stuff can't help either....


    But then again it could be down to the for skin not being fulkly back and many other things or putting to much preasure on your self and not sitting back and enjoying it...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,925 ✭✭✭Otis Driftwood


    What is a proper technique?

    Everyone is different so what works for one might not neccessarily work for another and if adolescents are being told in school "this is how you do it" and it doesnt work for them,then this will inevitibly lead to thoughts of "OMG my wang doesnt work!!!!!"

    Its something that should be discovered for yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    nedtheshed wrote: »
    What is a proper technique?

    Everyone is different so what works for one might not neccessarily work for another and if adolescents are being told in school "this is how you do it" and it doesnt work for them,then this will inevitibly lead to thoughts of "OMG my wang doesnt work!!!!!"

    Its something that should be discovered for yourself.

    I phrased it badly TBH, I didn't mean technique, just advice on it really.

    Things like "Don't Choke the life out of it...." Don't hammer to the fastest finish. That sort of thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭segaBOY


    I phrased it badly TBH, I didn't mean technique, just advice on it really.

    Things like "Don't Choke the life out of it...." Don't hammer to the fastest finish. That sort of thing.

    Now you know why they told you you'd go blind :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Herbal Deity


    I phrased it badly TBH, I didn't mean technique, just advice on it really.

    Things like "Don't Choke the life out of it...." Don't hammer to the fastest finish. That sort of thing.
    Surely one varies how they masturbate depending on their mood etc. ?

    Doesn't really seem like something someone would need advice on tbh...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,964 ✭✭✭ToniTuddle


    Nevermind about technique....we need the sex education people to first of all start telling young people it's actually OK to experiment with oneself! That it's perfectly normal and fire away!

    Saying that I was in a Catholic school so their hands were tied and the teacher couldn't say anything for fear of loosing her job or getting into serious bother.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,167 ✭✭✭Notorious


    So just food for thought really, should Proper technique be taught to kids?

    No.

    Tbh, just stop doing it if you think it's doing you no good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    We have mostly Catholic schools, and in Catholicism its considered a sin to touch yourself








    thats why the priests do it for you!

    bah-dum-tsh!

    Really though, i didnt think there was a specific technique, whatever works really, though getting a blowjob and knocking one off yourself arent the same, likewise for women going down on them and using a vibrator will proabably yield different results


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,385 ✭✭✭Jemmy


    Here kids let me show you how it's done! :rolleyes:

    Why don't you show them how not to do it then? :p





    FFS Minidazzler what a question, here's some advice...


    loosen the grip then! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    I have a terrible technique myself, which I can't change, whereby I choke the chicken too hard, This makes Oral on me a pain, because I literally Can't cum if I am getting a BJ, there isn't enough pressure so eventually I just go numb.
    Tbh, I think your penis going numb while receiving oral might be something to get looked at? It dosn't sound too right at all at all.
    I just wanted to ask, do ye think proper masturbation technique should be taught as part of sex education?

    No. Why?

    A) Somebody has to do it. It's a horrible task, which would induce a lot of stress on a teacher, which is something that isn't needed. And even if it was done via video*, there's still going to be questions asked. I don't think teachers would be too happy telling somebody how to touch themselves.
    Things like "Don't Choke the life out of it...." Don't hammer to the fastest finish. That sort of thing.
    I don't think it's any teachers place to tell kids that.

    B) Following on from that, people are different, people find out for themselves, what works for one might never work for another. It'd introduce more pressures to the students that 'they're not right' - puberty is hard enough without kids thinking they're even more messed up.

    Let it happen themselves, people have been figuring out how to get their jollies for the past 2,000+ years, and I'm sure they can figure it out for the next 2,000 years.
    Nevermind about technique....we need the sex education people to first of all start telling young people it's actually OK to experiment with oneself! That it's perfectly normal and fire away!

    They've started a campaign like this in the UK, to the best of my knowledge. Afair, the slogan is "An Orgasm a Day Keeps the Doctor Away" - Although I'm not fully sure... And don't really want to Google it - God only knows what fetish's will pop up.
    A really ****ty masturbation technique can make sex a real pain, especially when trying the first few times. I failed more than once because I just wasn't hard enough, I think this could be related to the fact that I don't need to be rock hard to Masturbate. The first time I succeeded was because it had been a few days since my last!
    Again, I don't think this is down to your masterbation, it's most likely to do with you being under pressure to perform. I wouldn't blame **** and try find out what the real problem is.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭shellyboo


    A million billion times no. Sexual health education in school, yes, and lots of it -morals, ethics, and pleasure is parental territory.

    Absolutly no way a teacher should be showing kids how to masturbate - what an utter minefield that would be. So incredibly inappropriate.

    At the age young boys start, telling them masturbation can decrease sensitivity would scare the shlte out of them too. They wouldn't understand. They'd be scared to touch themselves at all, and there's enough Catholic guilt floating about as it is. Once you're old enough to make the connection - and mini, you're only 21 ffs - you can set about retraining yourself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 markod4600


    down with this sort of thing!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,914 ✭✭✭✭tbh


    alright lads, alright, calm down :D

    I really think this'd be better in sex & sexuality, but I guess most of you won't be able to see it.

    so I'll just post this for MD::
    http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove?oid=14968

    and if any of the other mods want to re-open the thread, that's cool.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,914 ✭✭✭✭tbh


    feck it, will leave it open for a wee while, but other mods may still lock it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    I have never got this whole sex ed in school thing anyway.

    What gives a teacher expertise in this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Admittedly I didn't exactly think this through very much. I still think it would be a good idea, but it would obviously have to be handled carefully.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    When we were given sex education in 6th class I think it was, masturbation wasn't mentioned at all.

    Sex education is education about sex and not personal satisfaction.

    There's no right way to tell somebody how to pleasure themselves. There's no right way. I'm sure there's various techniques some people have themselves.

    It may not be the proper technique but there may be a popular method. Nobody should have a lecture in sex education about how they should be doing something.

    One person might give advice based on what they do whereas another person could be completely different.

    I'm sure nobody has ever told you how to walk or eat OP. Same with masturbation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    CDfm wrote: »
    I have never got this whole sex ed in school thing anyway.

    What gives a teacher expertise in this?

    I think it's more common now to have an outsider coming in rather than a normal teacher.

    This way people may have questions they want to ask and can feel more comfortable asking a stranger rather than their teacher who they see every day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    Admittedly I didn't exactly think this through very much. I still think it would be a good idea, but it would obviously have to be handled carefully.

    My memories of Sex Ed in school was a little like stand comedy with well mannered hecklers.

    I still cringe for the teachers involved - I marvel at how badly these things are handled.


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    That_Guy wrote: »
    When we were given sex education in 6th class I think it was, masturbation wasn't mentioned at all.

    My class were given sex education in 2nd year in secondary. All I remember from it was the teacher saying that "stimulating yourself is selfish and makes you a bad lover."


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    Karsini wrote: »
    My class were given sex education in 2nd year in secondary. All I remember from it was the teacher saying that "stimulating yourself is selfish and makes you a bad lover."

    Was that before or after lunch.??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Kooli


    Karsini wrote: »
    My class were given sex education in 2nd year in secondary. All I remember from it was the teacher saying that "stimulating yourself is selfish and makes you a bad lover."

    When we were given sex ed in first year, someone asked the teacher about masturbation (Probably as a result of a dare I think)
    The teacher's response "Eh...yeah...it's OK...but, it's a bit desperate."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,914 ✭✭✭✭tbh


    sex education in my school involved mucus, thermometers and more maths than necessary.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    My sex education was


    son this is a comdom you put it on your penis when you have sex it does lots of things one stops you getting any fatal desease's and stops girls getting pregnent!

    I was given a book about pubertiuy it was left unde rmy bed wear i learned about getting air in strange place's. and the rest of it was kinda weird.... but hey


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    Karsini wrote: »
    My class were given sex education in 2nd year in secondary. All I remember from it was the teacher saying that "stimulating yourself is selfish and makes you a bad lover."

    I actually laughed...... Old fashioned perhaps?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,647 ✭✭✭✭Fago!


    CDfm wrote: »
    I have never got this whole sex ed in school thing anyway.

    What gives a teacher expertise in this?

    I know. There were some of my teachers in school who i would have loved to get practical lessons from.

    He he.

    Anyways Mini, I know what ya mean. I used to be like that. Like trying to get to the finish line as quick as possible. But that lead to similar problems (Not as bad though) So i changed my ways. Now it's just, go with the flow. Nice and relaxed.

    As for the Sex Ed thing, it'd be awkward on a teacher. But it woulda been a lesson worth learning for most lads.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    CDfm wrote: »
    My memories of Sex Ed in school was a little like stand comedy with well mannered hecklers.

    I still cringe for the teachers involved - I marvel at how badly these things are handled.


    I think that sex education should be done through project work as well as maybe explained bye sex theripists that kinda thing.

    Not bye a teacher. teachers have the inherent ability to teach while kids want to learn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    tbh wrote: »
    sex education in my school involved mucus, thermometers and more maths than necessary.
    I thanked this even though it really scared me :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    If I was a sex ed teacher - i would bring the kids to a farm to watch cows and calves born or to a puppy farm.

    Lesson 2 would involve a visit to a maternity unit.

    Lesson 3 would be getting young mothers with babies into class doing the nappy changing thing and pass the dirtry nappies around the class

    then i would give them a leaflet to bring home to their Ma's to get her to sign that she had explained condom use with them using a brush handle and to sign and send back.

    There would be now giggles in my class:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    markod4600 wrote: »
    down with this sort of thing!

    Careful now!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 vuokko


    Sounds to me like the unfortunate w*nker is misplacing blame, not a w*nk prob mate sounds like an erectile prob. either that or you're gay, any girl who has my appendage in their mouth is sure to be swimming in a salty sea not too long upon entering the port. Sorry about the visualisation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    vuokko wrote: »
    Sounds to me like the unfortunate w*nker is misplacing blame, not a w*nk prob mate sounds like an erectile prob. either that or you're gay, any girl who has my appendage in their mouth is sure to be swimming in a salty sea not too long upon entering the port. Sorry about the visualisation.

    No erectile problem, was still hard, just numb. Meh, It's OK anyway, I will get over it! :) Will take the advice that was on tbh's link and see where it gets me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭katana1


    I remember first time --nearly had a heart attack,thought I was a freak.
    There are books to tell kids(I got one for mine) what to expect .
    As for technique ,wow never gave it much thought --always too worried about getting caught lol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    would you really want someone telling your kid how to have a good ****?and not only that but getting paid to do it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭Mad_Max


    I think there's room for discussion about it in sex ed.

    We all know sex ed is absolutely atrocious in schools and needs reform. I think mention of it should be included. Definitely not showing students how to though :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭katana1


    Mad_Max wrote: »
    I think there's room for discussion about it in sex ed.

    We all know sex ed is absolutely atrocious in schools and needs reform. I think mention of it should be included. Definitely not showing students how to though :D

    True -Very true,I didn't read the book as a bedtime story or anything .I just asked him to read it and that I would answer any questions he had after.
    Think of it this way we had a straight talking science teacher (2nd year) who told us about the hygiene side of things --he was a good and fun bloke and referred to us as his shower of w*****s.:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,399 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    vuokko wrote: »
    Sounds to me like the unfortunate w*nker is misplacing blame, not a w*nk prob mate sounds like an erectile prob. either that or you're gay, any girl who has my appendage in their mouth is sure to be swimming in a salty sea not too long upon entering the port. Sorry about the visualisation.

    Any more of that and you'll get a long ban from the forum. This isn't After Hours.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37 theganster


    I think OP has a point. I have a similar problem, I think its called "Delayed Ejaculatiuon" most likely caused by squeeezing to hard. I can only really reach orgasm my masterbation - I have never cum through normal ways. Kind of annoying. If I had of been told at a young age to be careful, I might not have this problem.

    Then again, on the other hand, my stamina is only limited by my fitness so if I want to impress a lady I can plough until the cows come home. Better than being a 2 minute wonder any day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    What do they teach in school.

    I mean dehydration can have a lot to do with performance so by upping you water intake you might cure your little problems.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    katana1 wrote: »
    Think of it this way we had a straight talking science teacher (2nd year) who told us about the hygiene side of things --he was a good and fun bloke and referred to us as his shower of w*****s.:o

    Thats how it should be.

    I cant see why parents lack the skills to do it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    What age are you suggesting kids should be taught how to masturbate?

    Boys usually start doing it before they're interested in girls


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    What age are you suggesting kids should be taught how to masturbate?

    Boys usually start doing it before they're interested in girls

    Do they teach girls too.??

    I mean how far from academic teaching is that.

    I do think this is a bit weird do be doing in school.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    CDfm wrote: »
    Do they teach girls too.??

    I mean how far from academic teaching is that.

    I do think this is a bit weird do be doing in school.


    why wouldnt/shouldnt they teach girls about sex and masturbation??

    what's sauce for teh goose is sauce for the gander


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    sam34 wrote: »
    why wouldnt/shouldnt they teach girls about sex and masturbation??

    what's sauce for teh goose is sauce for the gander

    I dont see how masturbation is an item to be taught in school.

    Fairly freaky if you ask me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    CDfm wrote: »
    I dont see how masturbation is an item to be taught in school.

    Fairly freaky if you ask me

    well, i was more responding to your question about whether it's taught to girls too.
    CDfm wrote: »
    Do they teach girls too.??

    I mean how far from academic teaching is that.

    I do think this is a bit weird do be doing in school.

    my point was that if it is going to be taught, it should be taught to both males and females


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    sam34 wrote: »
    well, i was more responding to your question about whether it's taught to girls too.


    my point was that if it is going to be taught, it should be taught to both males and females

    Whats your view on teaching it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    CDfm wrote: »
    Do they teach girls too.??

    I mean how far from academic teaching is that.

    I do think this is a bit weird do be doing in school.

    No I was saying boys usually start masturbating before they're interested in girls. So would be pointless teaching it to them in secondary school


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    No I was saying boys usually start masturbating before they're interested in girls. So would be pointless teaching it to them in secondary school

    With 84% of teachers female - I can imagine classes would be fun.

    "Well Boys - hands up everyone who maturbates"

    " Miss do you masturbate"

    How did the world population grow without sex ed in schools.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Kooli


    CDfm wrote: »
    With 84% of teachers female - I can imagine classes would be fun.

    "Well Boys - hands up everyone who maturbates"

    " Miss do you masturbate"

    How did the world population grow without sex ed in schools.

    Why oh why oh why do you think a teacher would ask a classroom of students to put up their hand if they masturbate?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Kooli


    CDfm wrote: »

    How did the world population grow without sex ed in schools.

    I presume you're joking with this question?
    If you're not, and you do believe sex ed is about teaching people how to have sex, then it's no wonder you don't want it taught in schools!


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