Beggars at ATM machines.

Run_to_da_hills

Something should be done about beggars hanging around ATM machines. I came across coffee cup holders at the foot of several ATM machines around the city today.

With the amount of ATM scamming, "snatch and grabbing" etc strict law should be made about begging within 20 feet of these devices.

bluto63

In Camden in London there's a circle around each ATM which no one else is allowed in while someone is using the ATM. Pretty good idea imo

cherryghost

you should piss them off by withdrawing 20 quid and giving it to the nearest 'help the disabled' stand while winking at the beggar

SoWatchaWant

Good idea indeed, bluto63.

Yeah, I'm not fond of them either.

Biggins

This is a thing that I see daily. Some sit right beside the cash machines, feet away.
Good idea about the circle thing.

fizzynicenice

yeah what the deal with that. No offence but I can't withdraw 50c for your, and yer deffo not gettin a score...

Caoimhín

cherryghost wrote: »

you should piss them off

I just piss on them, warms the poor critters up.

Whosbetter?

Caoimhín wrote: »

I just piss on them, warms the poor critters up.

Or puke on 'em, to make sure they get at least one hot meal a day.:)

o1s1n

bluto63 wrote: »

In Camden in London there's a circle around each ATM which no one else is allowed in while someone is using the ATM. Pretty good idea imo

The circle should be electrified once you enter. Then when you want to step out you press a button and the electric currant stops.

'Hey budddd, can I have a...'*ZAP!!!!*

smk89

The beggers at AIB on Grafton St are the worst of all. Just sitting there for hours.
And the garda never move them on. Its rediculous.

Rebelheart

Of course, if people stopped giving money to beggars - as Focus, the Simon Community and others have repeatedly asked - there would be no beggars on the street.

Those who give to beggars bear primary responsibility for their existence; they give beggars a vested interest in begging. This is the plain and simple reality.

electrogrimey

o1s1n wrote: »

The circle should be electrified once you enter. Then when you want to step out you press a button and the electric currant stops.

'Hey budddd, can I have a...'*ZAP!!!!*

Like in Harry Potter? I think you all know exactly what I'm referring to. That's right, 4th book, ring around the goblet thing.

galwayrush

I hope my Bank Manager is the one begging soon.:rolleyes:

segaBOY

I don't know which is worse, the beggar at the machine or the Concern chuggers hassling you as you try and get to the machine.

gav_neonstars

This carry on boils my blood.

Do they expect you to feel sorry for them in the hope that we will hand them a score or something?

More than a few times i have told who ever is sitting under the cash machine to fook off away or face the consequences.

Sit on a bridge like the rest of your mates so i can ignore ya from afar ya smelly little bollix!

Capt'n Midnight

Rebelheart wrote: »

Of course, if people stopped giving money to beggars - as Focus, the Simon Community and others have repeatedly asked - there would be no beggars on the street.

Those who give to beggars bear primary responsibility for their existence; they give beggars a vested interest in begging. This is the plain and simple reality.

It's Ireland , people aren't going to starve to death. Donate to a homeless charity instead.

Even in countries where people do starve to death giving money to beggars won't solve anything it's just a temporary respite. Don't forget that those who beg most aren't always the most deserving.

AnthonyK16

AIB in Grafton street is particularly bad for this type of carry on. Surely it would make more sense for them to sit where people would have access to small change,as people arent going to hand over notes very often

bluto63

AnthonyK16 wrote: »

AIB in Grafton street is particularly bad for this type of carry on. Surely it would make more sense for them to sit where people would have access to small change,as people arent going to hand over notes very often

I think it's to try and guilt people into thinking 'well I have all this money and he has nothing. I'll give him whatever change I have'

Hal1

bluto63 wrote: »

I think it's to try and guilt people into thinking 'well I have all this money and he has nothing. I'll give him whatever change I have'

What atm gives you change?

robby^5

gav_neonstars wrote: »

Sit on a bridge like the rest of your mates so i can ignore ya from afar ya smelly little bollix!

Nooooooo! The Ha'Penny bridge feels like a toll booth some days in town with the beggars positioning themselves at the steps on both ends, ****ing annoying.

gav_neonstars

Yeah that bridge can be a bastard of a place for the owl homeless.

But then i get to use my favorite line 'got and spare change buddd?' 'loads thanks!'

I saw a very puzzling thing the other day tho. There was a homeless man on Eustace Street with an ipod in his ear, a phone in his hand and a sign saying 'starving and homeless'

Now.. This threw up a few questions. If you are indeed homeless how do you charge your phone/Ipod?
And how the fook do you fill the ipod with all your junkie hits?

bluto63

Hal1 wrote: »

What atm gives you change?

Change you had before you approached the ATM

speedboatchase

Absolute chancers, makes me mad. I sometimes withdraw a bit more than usual if they're there and stop for a sec and with my eyes agog and say "wow can't wait to waste all this money!" as I walk past them

discobeaker

I seen one of these moochers begging at the ATM machines in Temple Bar. Once the bastard had gotten enough cash he got up and went to Hagan Daas and got a tub of ice cream!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

IvySlayer

ATM = Automatic Teller MACHINE

No need to put it twice

Anyway, I don't like beggars sitting near ATMs, I get nervous, they could try to nick my cash.

It should be illegal to loiter around cash machines.

cbreeze

Q: have you any change?
A: sorry, only 50s:D

bronte

There's a guy outside my local Sainsburys who asks for spare change almost everytime I go there. Last time I was there, I overheard a woman telling him she didn't have any spare change and he started giving her almighty grief.
I've made up my mind not to be donating anytime soon if that's how he's going to be. :mad:

bitemybanger

Thier beggers:eek: I tought they were offering sexual favours while you withdraw money and the cup is for if you wanna go solo:D

Mr.David

Come on guys...the beggars are there in the name of relativity.

I mean, you're in Taiwan on holidays and check your balance: 48,000 TW Dollars.

But wait, what the F0ck is 48,000 TW dollars?!

Well at least you know its 48,000 more than the smelly bastard on the ground beside you.

Relativity....its all about relativity.



Yes I am a bit pissed...

RATM

Rebelheart wrote: »

Of course, if people stopped giving money to beggars - as Focus, the Simon Community and others have repeatedly asked - there would be no beggars on the street.

Those who give to beggars bear pthat rimary responsibility for their existence; they give beggars a vested interest in begging. This is the plain and simple reality.

No it's not plain and simple simply because humanity is not that plain and simple.

If a beggar sits in a spot that has a passing trade of 1,000 people per hour then there will be a certain % of that 1,000 people who cannot resist to give them a few coins. That is human nature, plain and simple.

What you are suggesting is that every single person decides not to give a single cent to a person who is clearly in need. That just isn't going to happen so therefore a more viable solution needs to be advanced.

Xinkai

I don't give change to any beggars anymore cause of that report a few months ago in the paper saying all beggars were working for 1 'begging lord?' or something.

And walking around the spire/henry street theres always this plonker that actually APPROACHES you and says 'Sorry mate can i just ask ye a question?' I made the mistake of saying sure whats up one day... Now it's like 'Sorry Mate ca...' While i shout ENOUGH.

Also Hapenny bridge toll bridge HAHAHAHAHA

Tomebagel

i kick them and try to pretend it was an accident.

VinnyTGM

I alway's show them the receipt I get and laugh at them.

Mr. Presentable

Q: have you any change?
A: Yes, plenty, but thanks anyway

Dudess

I'm very surprised at the lack of "there's this bunch of beggars who every evening get into a silver Bentley parked 'round the corner from their spot" comments thus far.

Mr. Presentable

There is??? Do tell!

ttm

Dudess wrote: »

I'm very surprised at the lack of "there's this bunch of beggars who every evening get into a silver Bentley parked 'round the corner from their spot" comments thus far.

Not quite but I've watched a family of beggers in Waterford take off good cloths and put on wretched looking ones as they approach their pitch.

Its not a silver Bentley that collects the crew that do a regular Dungarvan pitch but they are orgainised and one car goes around an picks up the 5 it dropped off in the morning.

Red Hand

Dudess wrote: »

I'm very surprised at the lack of "there's this bunch of beggars who every evening get into a silver Bentley parked 'round the corner from their spot" comments thus far.

Where'd you see them?

InkSlinger67

gav_neonstars wrote: »

If you are indeed homeless how do you charge your phone/Ipod?
And how the fook do you fill the ipod with all your junkie hits?

Sounds like George Michael's pre-public toilet sex checklist

Darlughda

Dont like folk begging at ATM machines either.

But that's nothing compared to how sick I feel when I read posts from absolute scumbags who think they can get away with outpouring their vile fantasies of degradation on other human beings.

There are genuine cases of people in awful situations.
Just last week,I witnessed some random guy just attacking this poor homeless guy (he was nowhere near an atm machine btw), the vitriol of abuse was disgusting. Just because he thought he was in a higher place in society to the shivering guy, he thought it was okay to stand there and take out all his rage on him.

Racadh na Rian orthu!

deceit

Darlughda wrote: »

Dont like folk begging at ATM machines either.

But that's nothing compared to how sick I feel when I read posts from absolute scumbags who think they can get away with outpouring their vile fantasies of degradation on other human beings.

There are genuine cases of people in awful situations.
Just last week,I witnessed some random guy just attacking this poor homeless guy (he was nowhere near an atm machine btw), the vitriol of abuse was disgusting. Just because he thought he was in a higher place in society to the shivering guy, he thought it was okay to stand there and take out all his rage on him.

Racadh na Rian orthu!

I wouldnt give a begger money as no way of knowing if its really a needy person and if is are they going to use it for something useful like food etc. I seen something like this happen before and seen it from the start so knew was for no reason so went over and punched the guy, lucky wasnt arrested but the guy was taking the piss.

Dudess

bluto63 wrote: »

In Camden in London there's a circle around each ATM which no one else is allowed in while someone is using the ATM. Pretty good idea imo

How are people stopped from entering the circle while someone is using the ATM?

Canard

robby^5 wrote: »

Nooooooo! The Ha'Penny bridge feels like a toll booth some days in town with the beggars positioning themselves at the steps on both ends, ****ing annoying.

haha, yeah, it's hard not to trip on them all.

Xinkai wrote: »

And walking around the spire/henry street theres always this plonker that actually APPROACHES you and says 'Sorry mate can i just ask ye a question?' I made the mistake of saying sure whats up one day... Now it's like 'Sorry Mate ca...' While i shout ENOUGH.

Theyre the worst kind. There's these ones on the south side who walk up and ask if you've 'change for the busssss?'. I said no, and he took out literally handfuls of change..makes me wonder how gullible they think we are.

And then, if you don't give some money, they start the whole 'where've i seen your face..I know I've seen your face...' which is extremely unnerving.

And just today at central bank I saw a man in a binbag and thought he was a pile of rubbish left there. I laughed loudly and pointed, then I realized it was a person. >.<

ttm

Dudess wrote: »

How are people stopped from entering the circle while someone is using the ATM?

Its in England they are English, civilised I expect, they que up and strange things like that so no way would they cross a yellow line when someone else was using the atm, except to kick a beggar.

nlgbbbblth

segaBOY wrote: »

I don't know which is worse, the beggar at the machine or the Concern chuggers hassling you as you try and get to the machine.

No comparison.

The chuggers are far worse. At least the beggars are fairly passive. The chuggers just try to bully / intimidate you into giving them money.

IvySlayer wrote: »

ATM = Automatic Teller MACHINE

ATM = Automated teller machine

highdef

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Something should be done about beggars hanging around ATM machines.

lol.....ATM machines........ automatic teller machine machines!!! That's like saying PIN number, as in Personal identification number number.

Sorry, carry on. I couldn't resist!!!

As for beggars at ATMs, I cannot stand them at all. I ignore them or tell them to pi$$ off.

trout

segaBOY wrote: »

I don't know which is worse, the beggar at the machine or the Concern chuggers hassling you as you try and get to the machine.

Chuggers, hands down.

Beggars for the most part are used to being passed by ... chuggers tend to be mobile, and they seem to get a perverse pleasure out of chasing people and hounding them.

Some beggars look so wretched, I feel sorry for them ... but the rational part of me thinks it is wrong to support begging.

Chuggers make my blood boil.

quirkster

What I do sometimes is get a 1e burger or something from McDonalds and give them that, usually late in the evening/nightime.

Better than giving them a euro that theyll possibly spend on drugs,drink etc.

Plus I feel better knowing Ive given them a warm 'meal' as feck all expense to me

Xinkai

Dudess wrote: »

How are people stopped from entering the circle while someone is using the ATM?

A big black man named Ben. He comes up to and says, Get Away From The Circle, Mother F*cker.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6JJybtqNk8

Toots

That AIB one in Temple Bar is desperate, last weekend myself and the OH went to get cash out of it and there was this scruffy looking beggar sitting underneath it with a sign saying 'homeless and hungry', so we went to the one in the Centra instead. When we came out of the Centra, the beggar had taken out a little bit of tinfoil and a lighter and was happily toking up in the middle of the square!

Always cracks me up when there's one hanging around outside the Fleet Street car park, and they ask you have you any spare change, as you're feeding it all into the parking machine

Kittykook

Theyre either hanging around atms or creating dogs from sand..



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