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Column - how do you pronounce it?

  • 03-12-2009 11:49am
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    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    I went to say 'column' the other day and was suddenly unsure of whether it was pronounced like 'volume' or 'Gollum'. After asking, nobody has ever heard it pronounced 'kolyoom' but I'm sure I didn't just invent that pronunciation in my head... or did I?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭mink_man


    column


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Colm - as in the boy's name.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭mink_man


    and what are gollums or kolyooms??? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    I've said it too much, I don't think it's a word anymore!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    After asking, nobody has ever heard it pronounced 'kolyoom' but I'm sure I didn't just invent that pronunciation in my head... or did I?

    Sounds like one of those madey-uppy marbles-in-mouth/D4/Miriam O'Callaghan
    pronunciations...

    ....like rindabite! :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    mink_man wrote: »
    and what are gollums or kolyooms??? :pac:

    Gollums - I think - are mythologial clay-life figures that come to life
    Kolyooms - Dose tings dat hold up da stone pillars outside da court, Bud, when ya've bin 2 c de judge.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭Keano


    Today we learn to to say column


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    None of yer fancy talk around here.

    Call a Pillar a Pillar for feck's sake. :mad:


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    I've no interest in how dictionary voices pronounce it.
    So far nobody has said they've ever heard it directly, but three people have said it sounded like a particular accent, namely:

    a) old man from rural Antrim
    b) D4 marble-mouth
    c) story-wha' track-suiter

    which is a bit mad :)


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,238 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    It's coll-um, no idea where you got coll-yume from

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Choir. Now there's a word that's tricky to see when you don't know how. Choir.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,393 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Choir. Now there's a word that's tricky to see when you don't know how. Choir.
    starts like "queer", but ends in "aya" - "Quaya":)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,945 ✭✭✭D-Generate


    I say Kol-yume too! Trying hard now to change it to coll-um since i have to say the word every day a couple of times and they laugh at my Kol-yume talk.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    D-Generate wrote: »
    I say Kol-yume too! Trying hard now to change it to coll-um since i have to say the word every day a couple of times and they laugh at my Kol-yume talk.

    Phew! Any harm to ask where you're from?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭mental07


    Another kol-yoomer here!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 188 ✭✭powerfade


    eeder eyeder


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Beasty wrote: »
    starts like "queer", but ends in "aya" - "Quaya":)

    Eer-eh, thank you, Guvena Quimby!

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    Beasty wrote: »
    starts like "queer", but ends in "aya" - "Quaya":)

    Miebe ova in Cay-ens in Queenslan', mahte, but not 'round these parts!

    Pronunciation of "choir" is "quire".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭TobyZiegler


    Definitely Kol-yume for me too. I woulda thought most people say Kol-yume!

    I hate Schedule - Shed-ule or Skedule?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    Definitely Kol-yume for me too. I woulda thought most people say Kol-yume!

    I hate Schedule - Shed-ule or Skedule?!

    American English : Sk
    European English : Sh

    It's like "leftennent" vs "lootennant".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,834 ✭✭✭Useful.Idiot


    stupid thread tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,465 ✭✭✭MOH


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Choir. Now there's a word that's tricky to see when you don't know how. Choir.

    HUh? How is that tricky? It's pronoinced exactly loike it's spelled. Choir. It's what oi sit on after a hard day counting moi millions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭Aodan83


    stupid thread tbh
    I like the name.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,230 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    They have collyums in Kerry.

    They also have kommerties instead of committees.:eek:


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    stupid thread tbh

    Haha - you're an outed kolyummer and can't stand the shame.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    They have collyums in Kerry.

    They also have kommerties instead of committees.:eek:

    Sticking in non-existent, ridiculous "r" is a Cockney / Newcastle and D4 trait.

    In West Cork they do have komet-teeeeeeees, though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Koll-yume here too. Like legume.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    dudara wrote: »
    Koll-yume here too. Like legume.

    Can I ask why, though ?

    "legume" has an "e" at the end, after the "m" which obviously softens the "yoummmme"

    Whereas "column" has an "n", which is a harder sound. Think banging your knee off a counter and going "nnn!".

    Not being funny, just wondering where this pronunciation came from ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    They have collyums in Kerry.

    They also have kommerties instead of committees.:eek:

    no we don't, we have commiteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees.

    i pronounce "column" as kol-yume


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,077 ✭✭✭parasite


    it's koll-yume tbh, I can't imagine anyone saying it like gollum :confused:
    must be a cork thing :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I've heard and said it both ways, if someone said it either way before me I'd just follow the way their saying it.
    Today we learn to to say column
    Euuuuu, yank speak no thanks.
    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    None of yer fancy talk around here.

    Call a Pillar a Pillar for feck's sake. :mad:
    No a piller is a small spliff.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    So that's what 6, 7 (8 including Useful.Idiot) kolyume-sayers in 30 posts... it's an epidemic!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,230 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    Can I ask why, though ?

    "legume" has an "e" at the end, after the "m" which obviously softens the "yoummmme"

    Whereas "column" has an "n", which is a harder sound. Think banging your knee off a counter and going "nnn!".

    Not being funny, just wondering where this pronunciation came from ?

    I think that it started as a concerted effort to massacre the English language in an attempt to drive out the British. In the end, this didn't do the trick, so people had to resort to violence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    kol-yume.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,931 ✭✭✭az2wp0sye65487


    Column - how do you pronounce it?

    It - but why are you calling me Column?


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    There should be a "pity thanks" button.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    Kol-yum


  • Posts: 5,869 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Do all you freaks pronounce the month "Ought-yume" then as well?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    As far as I know it sounds like "col-um." Rhyming with gollum or Colm.

    Wasn't even aware there were alternate pronunciations for the word. :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    liah wrote: »
    As far as I know it sounds like "col-um." Rhyming with gollum or Colm.

    Wasn't even aware there were alternate pronunciations for the word. :eek:

    Nah, that just sounds wrong TBH!!

    Kol yoom sounds right to me! :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    liah wrote: »
    As far as I know it sounds like "col-um." Rhyming with gollum or Colm.

    That sounds spot-on to me!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    'Coll-yum' is quite prevalent in parts of Ireland > dunno why? then there's ''thought' being confused with 'taught' :)


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Is there any kind of a regional bias to the kolyum pronunciation?

    Do you people who speak Irish say 'koleen' or 'kolyeen' for cailìn? (can't do a fada, sorry)

    BTW, is Colm not pronounced 'kullum'?


  • Posts: 5,869 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Do you people who speak Irish say 'koleen' or 'kolyeen' for cailìn? (can't do a fada, sorry)

    Why would anyone say Kolyeen?

    (for the fada, hold down the "Alt Gr" button to the right of the space bar and press the relevant vowel (or alternatively use ctrl + Alt and the letter).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭schween


    Collum

    Someone laughed at me recently when I said mobile as in mow-bile.
    Himself Irish and a German rounded on me and said I was the only one and it's pronounced mow-bill :(

    Also
    Million: Millon vs. Mill-yun
    Population: Pop-pull-ation vs. Pop-yull-ation


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Why would anyone say Kolyeen?

    Seems to be a fairly standard pronunciation, but I'm not an expert.

    http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cail%C3%ADn
    (for the fada, hold down the "Alt Gr" button to the right of the space bar and press the relevant vowel (or alternatively use ctrl + Alt and the letter).

    French keyboard fails :(


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,226 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    schween wrote: »
    Someone laughed at me recently when I said mobile as in mow-bile.
    Himself Irish and a German rounded on me and said I was the only one and it's pronounced mow-bill :(
    That's the American pronunciation! Gasp!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,893 ✭✭✭Davidius


    I'm absolutely certain it's coll-um.
    schween wrote: »
    Million: Millon vs. Mill-yun
    I've always said milly-on. I think I'm the only person I know that does that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,556 ✭✭✭MizzLolly


    I say it like 'volume'. Column. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    MizzLolly wrote: »
    I say it like 'volume'. Column. :)

    And, like "legume", "volume" has an "e" after the "m"; not an "n".


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