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Which county council charges you depending on the weight of your bins?

  • 02-12-2009 4:57pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 126 ✭✭


    Anyone hear of this?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 Jack The Ripper


    I can't wait for the punchline.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 126 ✭✭2tel1


    No seriously I'm overseas and someone just asked me this


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,663 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    This thread is a load of rubbish


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Fat bins?

    Oy! Oy! Oy! Whatever next?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    2tel1 wrote: »
    Which county council charges you depending on the weight of your bins?

    Probably Weigh-o county council.


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 6,854 Mod ✭✭✭✭mp22


    Cork county council weighs in with those charges


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭wilson10


    About 6 or 7 years ago I saw a report on TV where a pilot scheme was in operation, I think it was in Kerry where the Bin Lorry identified & weighed the bin as it emptied it, so you are charged by weight. A very fair system, I thought, where the polluter pays.

    It was to be rolled out across the country, but of course as with so many other things in this country, it never happened, not that I know of anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,467 ✭✭✭Wazdakka


    Most of them weigh your bins afaik.
    I worked for the company that put the tagging and weighing equipment on most of the trucks in Ireland a few years ago.

    I'm with a private company and most of them charge by weight anyway...

    Ask Manvik :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Some local authorities have now got out of the waste collection business altogether and its completly privatised (expect water to follow suit once charges for it are re/introduced)
    wilson10 wrote: »
    About 6 or 7 years ago I saw a report on TV where a pilot scheme was in operation, I think it was in Kerry where the Bin Lorry identified & weighed the bin as it emptied it, so you are charged by weight. A very fair system, I thought, where the polluter pays.

    Its only really fair if one can then sue companies who send them junk mail


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,082 ✭✭✭Chris_533976


    Galway charges per quarter and also per kilogram.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    If you don't like someone just fill their bin up to the top with water before collection day. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Water pah !

    Wouldnt Lead or mercury be more effective ?

    Or course if you really didnt like them you could put it someplace else just make sure you have a good defence lawyer first


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    Water pah !

    Wouldnt Lead or mercury be more effective ?
    They would be welcome to leave any amount of Lead or mercury in my bin. I would have it emptied and sold before the bin men arrive. :D

    I knew a guy that worked in Galway metal. Certain individuals would arrive in Hiace or Ford Transit vans looking to collect scrap. They would have their vans weighed on a bridge before they arrive and then on leaving. They would be charged the difference. On a rainy day they would arrive up with several drums of full of water which the would empty out inside the compound to make the van lighter so that they could load more scrap into it. Clever cnuts. Management copped on to this quick enough and made regular visual checks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭sunnyside


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    Its only really fair if one can then sue companies who send them junk mail

    No because paper goes in the recycling bin and that isn't weighed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    So one is forced it use an ordinary bin owing to the recyling bin being ...like...full or something......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭sunnyside


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    So one is forced it use an ordinary bin owing to the recyling bin being ...like...full or something......

    You could bring extra newspapers/magazines to the County Council recycling centres yourself. I definitely wouldn't put them in the bin that is weighed as they are heavy.

    You could force extra into the recycling bin by crushing up water bottles and cardboard boxes. I live alone so my bin doesn't be full.

    There is an alternative to County Council pay by weight refuse collection. Private companies like Greenstar and Country Clean operate in the same areas and have a flat fee of around €230 a year and they don't weigh the bins. Much cheaper option if lots of people live in the house. In my estate most people seem to be using the private companies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    Well, South Dublin County Council were saying they were going to bring it in last year, everyone had to pay a fee, 140 euro or something...

    Haven't heard about it since...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    2tel1 wrote: »
    Anyone hear of this?
    Yes, a number of British collection companies have started using this method.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Better start finding a new method to dispose of those fatties I've been killing then. :(


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 7,396 Mod ✭✭✭✭**Timbuk2**


    I'm just going to fill my bins with helium balloons.

    Jokes on you, council.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭sunnyside


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    Well, South Dublin County Council were saying they were going to bring it in last year, everyone had to pay a fee, 140 euro or something...

    Haven't heard about it since...

    I doubt you will, it probably costs a fortune to get the tags/chips put on the bins, Biffo probably won't be able to afford that for a few years.
    Jokes on you, council.

    It sort of is because where this system is being used in Cork most people have changed their refuse collection to a private company so very few people are even using it. The county council refuse collection service is operating at a loss. Same would happen in Dublin with the private companies coming in and doing it cheaper so it might never happen.

    Just another point if anyones interested. It's Cork County Council who weigh bins not Cork City Council. People who live in Cork city have to buy bin-tags which cost €5 each (In Spar, possible other places). Every time they put the bin out they must attach a €5 tag and that's what it costs regardless of the weight of the bin.

    Edited to add that €5 bin tags or the weight of the bin is added to the anual fee of approx €200. It's not like you can buy a €5 bin tag once a month and therefore only pay €60 for the year.
    Makes no sense at all. Refuse collection should cost the same no matter where you live.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    DLRCoCo charge by weight and per lift. The richest and scabbiest CoCo in the world! :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    sunnyside wrote: »
    You could bring extra newspapers/magazines to the County Council recycling centres yourself.

    I was discussing junk mail not newspapers/magazines (unless your definition of junk mail includes unsolicited "free" newspapers which in many cases would be fair enough)

    Can I sue the junk mailers for the taxi fare/my time/storage


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭sunnyside


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    I was discussing junk mail not newspapers/magazines (unless your definition of junk mail includes unsolicited "free" newspapers which in many cases would be fair enough)

    Can I sue the junk mailers for the taxi fare/my time/storage

    How much junk mail do you get? A few leaflets a week would weigh around 10 grammes probably so no I don't think anybody official would be interested in your argument.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    There was a case in the UK a few years back where the receipent of a "junk fax" sued the sender £1 for ink/paper/electricity. Obviously the purpose of this action was to extablish a legal precedent rather than actual monetary reasons.
    How much junk mail do you get?

    More than 10 grammes per week
    I don't think anybody official would be interested in your argument
    Perhaps they might be when I start fowarding my junkmail to their freepost address


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    well cork county council shot themselves in the foot with their policies .

    Ok its pay by weight no bother there we recycle loads anyway .
    However if you investigate the charges you get charged a set fee even when you dont put your bin out for collection !!!!
    It was madness most people i know are with private collection now .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭sunnyside


    However if you investigate the charges you get charged a set fee even when you dont put your bin out for collection !!!!
    It was madness most people i know are with private collection now .

    But don't you pay the private company a flat fee for the year so you are still paying even if you don't put the bin out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    sunnyside wrote: »
    But don't you pay the private company a flat fee for the year so you are still paying even if you don't put the bin out.
    yes but i dont pay by weight for the private company .
    so its just the one charge .
    with the council its a charge for year and then its the weight of bin on top of that.
    The private company has worked out cheaper and thats saying alot because we recycle loads so the pay by weight should of been rewarding people that do that. Its a useless system and its currently operating at a loss over it .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭The guy


    mikom wrote: »
    Probably Weigh-o county council.

    Just north of Gal-weigh.


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