Pat Kenny's Climate Circus.....

JonathanAnon

Debate about global warming on with Pat now. Lad after having a right go at Pat. "This is the usual Pat Kenny ramming words down people's throats"...

Anyone listening?

bogman44

JonathanAnon wrote: »

Debate about global warming on with Pat now. Lad after having a right go at Pat. "This is the usual Pat Kenny ramming words down people's throats"...

Anyone listening?

Yeah. Interesting stuff.
Getting a bit nasty. Plank is a joke

Cannibal Ox

Cringe worthy.

runswithascript

This is great radio.

JonathanAnon

Anyone educated enough on the issue to tell me who I should be believing. Kenny is usually fairly grounded but seems to be going out on a limb here. Thought it was really childish the way the "professor" laughed his way through Pat's critique of the Irish writer.

runswithascript

JonathanAnon wrote: »

Anyone educated enough on the issue to tell me who I should be believing. Kenny is usually fairly grounded but seems to be going out on a limb here. Thought it was really childish the way the "professor" laughed his way through Pat's critique of the Irish writer.

Are you kidding me? It really is 1% or so of scientists that reject the theory of global warming being caused by man.

tbh

great radio - guy from the Irish Times really took umbrage - doubt he'll be back!

Cannibal Ox

JonathanAnon wrote:

Kenny is usually fairly grounded but seems to be going out on a limb here.

His limbs were almost falling off. I don't understand why he thought it'd be a good idea to go wading in to a debate between two people who are, presumably, experts when his own knowledge isn't really that comprehensive. I thought it'd be interesting debate between two people, instead I got to hear Pat Kenny rambling about how we should listen to everybody while he was simultaneously shutting up the two people involved in the debate.

tbh

Cannibal Ox wrote: »

His limbs were almost falling off. I don't understand why he thought it'd be a good idea to go wading in to a debate between two people who are, presumably, experts when his own knowledge isn't really that comprehensive. I thought it'd be interesting debate between two people, instead I got to hear Pat Kenny rambling about how we should listen to everybody while he was simultaneously shutting up the two people involved in the debate.

I wonder would he like to mod the radio forum?

imstrongerthanu

JonathanAnon wrote: »

Anyone educated enough on the issue to tell me who I should be believing. Kenny is usually fairly grounded but seems to be going out on a limb here. Thought it was really childish the way the "professor" laughed his way through Pat's critique of the Irish writer.

yes plants intake c02 and give out oxygen.
Dumb bastards would tax anything.

runswithascript

Pat Kenny shouted down on the Frontline

mike65

Interesting stuff, the Irish Times scribbler John Gibbons suffers from George Monbiot syndrome, who spends a large part of his Guardian columns sneering rather than engaging in science.

Gibbons clearly was expecting an easy ride from Kenny.

runswithascript

mike65 wrote: »

Interesting stuff, the Irish Times scribbler John Gibbons suffers from George Monbiot syndrome, who spends a large part of his Guardian columns sneering rather than engaging in science.

He did engage in science, maybe you were listening to something else?

Slidey

I thought it was a good listen.

Say what you like about Pat, but he is the best there is out there when it comes to day time debate on the radio.

Imagine how cringe worthy that would be with D'Arcy or Ryan

JonathanAnon

imstrongerthanu wrote: »

yes plants intake c02 and give out oxygen.

LOL. Well I know that much is not true. I didnt think that only 5% was caused by man, I knew that a fair amount was caused by Cattle. Pat trying to justify his handling of the argument now..

Was very poor of the journalist to review/comment on a book without reading though.

mike65

LA3G wrote: »

He did engage in science, maybe you were listening to something else?

Gibbons spent most of the interview having pop at the Australian fella (and Kenny for not blindly aggreeing with Gibbons.

RayM

mike65 wrote: »

Gibbons spent most of the interview having pop at the Australian fella (and Kenny for not blindly aggreeing with Gibbons.

To be fair, Kenny has a bit of a history when it comes to blindly agreeing with denialists like Plimer, Bellamy, etc. However, rather than pointing out Plimer's business interests, Gibbons would have been better off making a few direct references to his links with right-wing think-tanks.

54321

Pat Kenny did a superb job. He wasn't great on the Late Late but his radio show is must hear listening for those of us interested in current affairs.

Today he did a great job.

Kennys job is not to suck up to the general consensus.

His job is to try and seek the truth and he did a fine job today. Its important that people like Kenny question the consensus because if they don't, we all go around accepting any nonsense thrown to us and not questioning things.

So what if it upsets the "believers" of global warming. He needs to upset them to seek the truth.

Well done Pat.

JonathanAnon

54321 wrote: »

Pat Kenny did a superb job. He wasn't great on the Late Late but his radio show is must hear listening for those of us interested in current affairs.

Today he did a great job.

Kennys job is not to suck up to the general consensus.

His job is to try and seek the truth and he did a fine job today. Its important that people like Kenny question the consensus because if they don't, we all go around accepting any nonsense thrown to us and not questioning things.

So what if it upsets the "believers" of global warming. He needs to upset them to seek the truth.

Well done Pat.

Hi Pat. :-)

weldersbench

I thought it was funny when Kenny told Gibbons "I'm not a fan"! You have to respect Pat because he has an engineering background but he might want to openly state his position on climate change and not hide solely behind scientific integrity. Dogs on the street knew the boom would end sharply some day never mind what the economists said, rising sea levels are a more serious matter.

mike65

The issue under discussion today wasn't if climate change is happening, only who's fault it is - man or nature.

Just found this http://www.thinkorswim.ie/ seems Kenny and Gibbons have "history".

Discodog

If you take a look in the Boards weather forum you will find a surprising amount of scepticism for Global Warming.

Just think of what would be at stake if the doubters were right. Would anyone ever believe Science & Government again ?.

PK did stress a key issue & that is the utter vilification of anyone who disagrees with Global Warming. Same thing happened with Flat Earth, Earth at centre of universe etc. That alone makes me highly suspicious.

force eleven

Discodog wrote: »

If you take a look in the Boards weather forum you will find a surprising amount of scepticism for Global Warming.

Just think of what would be at stake if the doubters were right. Would anyone ever believe Science & Government again ?.

PK did stress a key issue & that is the utter vilification of anyone who disagrees with Global Warming. Same thing happened with Flat Earth, Earth at centre of universe etc. That alone makes me highly suspicious.

Most keen amateur weather watchers (such as myself) have a fairly sceptical view of this man made climate change stuff. Maybe because recent temperature data has shown a cooling trend generally. It does seem to be agenda driven. The Greens in particular, are obnoxious with regards to debating it, regarding it as a fait accompli. Which it most definitely is not.

What gets me is the greens were saying a few summers ago that drought and extrme heat would be characteristic of Irish summers in the future. 3 sodden cool summers later, they have 180 degree'd on this,surprisingly.

54321

force eleven wrote: »

Most keen amateur weather watchers (such as myself) have a fairly sceptical view of this man made climate change stuff. Maybe because recent temperature data has shown a cooling trend generally. It does seem to be agenda driven. The Greens in particular, are obnoxious with regards to debating it, regarding it as a fait accompli. Which it most definitely is not.

What gets me is the greens were saying a few summers ago that drought and extrme heat would be characteristic of Irish summers in the future. 3 sodden cool summers later, they have 180 degree'd on this,surprisingly.

Very very true.

weldersbench

Discodog wrote: »

If you take a look in the Boards weather forum you will find a surprising amount of scepticism for Global Warming.

Just think of what would be at stake if the doubters were right. Would anyone ever believe Science & Government again ?.

PK did stress a key issue & that is the utter vilification of anyone who disagrees with Global Warming. Same thing happened with Flat Earth, Earth at centre of universe etc. That alone makes me highly suspicious.

Agreed, and Gibbons "bookburner" respose wasn't what was called for however dubious his opponent's thesis. A recent Financial Times article had trouble finding suitably peer reviewed experts for the con side to the man made climate change argument. Maybe if you can keep your head when all around you are losing theirs... you haven't grasped the gravity of the situation.

force eleven

The real key for me, is what we do when the oil runs out? That is the real issue closing in on us very fast,no one can deny that. If China and India continue their upward industrialisation and consumerism, we'll run into a crisis maybe 30 or 40 years down the line.....